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Link Posted: 2/23/2006 3:55:58 PM EDT
[#1]
Dont' get me wrong, I like my porn, as do all real men, but sometimes I think...

These girls are someones daughter...

can you imagine looking at porn and seeing a pic of your daughter getting railed by the biggest dick in the business???


Makes me glad I don't have kids...


Back to porn.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 4:14:41 PM EDT
[#2]
I figure it’s easy.

(One of my big problems is that I have been cursed with this nagging sense of morality and decency. I know how to do crap and get away with it but I don’t because it’s not right.)

After checking with a good lawyer and making sure you follow all applicable laws, you set yourself up with some cameras and a “studio” then get out and advertise a bit. Make up some business cards and pass them out to young women. College campuses, bars, and concerts might be a good place to look. Tell the women that it’s just for nude shots and ask them if they have any friends who might be interested. Don’t directly ask them to get naked but offer a “finders fee” if they send anyone your way.

If you offer good money you will have takers. Women like to feel sexy and desirable, with so little moral stigma attached to it these days there are plenty of women who will gladly do a few nude shots for some spare cash. And when word gets out in the stripper community you will have no shortage of models.

Then, once they are in your studio you press them a bit for just a little more than the nude shots. When you hit real resistance you back off no sense in driving anyone away. But you will probably have plenty of girls who are willing, with a little gentle coaxing, to go from nudity to porn. After all, most of the girls won’t really know what to expect and will be more likely to follow your lead.

Best of all you could really sell the film on the Internet and at least break even. Make sure you pay the girls appropriately. That way they, and their friends, will come back for more pictures later… Hopefully together.

(Once again this is just speculation on my part. I’m much too moral to ever attempt it.)
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 4:34:29 PM EDT
[#3]
Attention Whores

"Daddy" issues

Crack
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 4:35:39 PM EDT
[#4]
I think there is alot of peer pressure in it...not any money for amateurs..It always surpised me because they don't all look so stupid.  Many of them come from middle and higher income brackets and were good students...but, most are kids and don't think too much about the outcome of their actions...
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 4:56:54 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Because they do it for less everyday.



Yep..... this statement is 100% correct.

Also, most of them are everyday high school/college chicks wanting to earn some money on the side with the promise of making it big in the "industry".

Most of these women are "conned" into, "You'll make it big and may earn hundreds of thousands of dollars, etc."

According to a buddy of mine, some of those hot high school girls on inter racial videos are talked into doing it by a boyfriend, fellow white guy. They almost always, don't know it until, they get on the "set" and it's too late to back out of it, signed contracts and whatnot.

With respect to the usual "fees", what I don't understand is....

High class chick..

Escort service = $5,000 (per hour)

Porn "film" = they'll do it for $500-1,500 with 5 other guys doing the deed.....




Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:10:56 PM EDT
[#6]
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:11:02 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
What I don't understand is how it's legal to pay some girl to have sex on camera, but not to pay her just to have sex.

WTF?



You can tax porno thats why.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:14:20 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:


In most cases, an escort assumes much greater risk.  That $5,000 chick (extremely rare for them to make anywhere near that much) will be alone with the John somewhere, whereas the porn chick will be on a set with a bunch of people around, possibly including a boyfriend or friend of theirs.

Also, the escort's client will NOT have to undergo manditory STD testing.

Finally, the escort will usually have to pay for a driver/security guard, as well as her agency.  The latter will take 40-50%.

-Troy



Troy, that makes sense....

Thanks.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:25:44 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
<snip>

A lot of these girls don't look like drugged out skanks, they look like everyday hot girls. I can't imagine most of these ameture internet porn sites pay these girls that much. I'm sure less than porn movies that are actually being produced by a production company.

WTF?



It is real easy to get a girl to flash her bewbies or pie.  At least half will do it at the asking by almost any man.  Add a camera and they are pushing each other out of the way to let you take pics.  At least thats my experience.



DETAILS, MAN DETAILS!!!


GR
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:27:55 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
they all have daddy issues...



AND WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!



GR
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:29:25 PM EDT
[#11]
They have no self honor.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:34:51 PM EDT
[#12]
I am dense..


What is this "daddy issue" you speak of?

I've heard of the term.. but never really understood it.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:49:24 PM EDT
[#13]
Voodoo,

They never got the acceptance/love they needed from their dads, so they seek it out from other men (however, all the men want is sex). They come to equate being wanted for their body/sex with real love/acceptance, thereby leading to more and more shallow/degrading relationships. At least that's my understanding.

Also, the connotation could be that they were molested by their fathers as well.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:56:26 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Voodoo,

They never got the acceptance/love they needed from their dads, so they seek it out from other men (however, all the men want is sex). They come to equate being wanted for their body/sex with real love/acceptance, thereby leading to more and more shallow/degrading relationships. At least that's my understanding.

Also, the connotation could be that they were molested by their fathers as well.



Ah.

I generally find these types in a family where the parents split.. and the daughter lived with her mother.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 6:43:16 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Voodoo,

They never got the acceptance/love they needed from their dads, so they seek it out from other men (however, all the men want is sex). They come to equate being wanted for their body/sex with real love/acceptance, thereby leading to more and more shallow/degrading relationships. At least that's my understanding.

Also, the connotation could be that they were molested by their fathers as well.



Correct. A LOT of women I know/dated/am friends with/ etc. that have "daddy" problems seem to believe that pleasing a guy, not matter how sick he is, is what gets them loved by him. I have a family member like this that's dad divorced her mom and basically abandoned them when she was about 10. She will do ANYTHING to get attention from guys. She has absolutly NO COMPREHENSION  of how to act around men, though I do lay some of that blame on her mom, also.

Fathers have  a BIG role to play in their daughters maturity and what they percieve and accept as love from another man.

I tell my little girl (age 5) almost every day that "no man on this earth will EVER love you like your daddy does no matter what they tell you". She looks at me and smiles. One day she will, I hope, understand what I mean.

GR

Link Posted: 2/23/2006 6:45:25 PM EDT
[#16]
$$$$$$$$$
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 6:59:49 PM EDT
[#17]
Frontline did an excellent porn episode, which you can view online here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/porn/view/
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 7:04:28 PM EDT
[#18]


Quoted:

What I don't understand is how it's legal to pay some girl to have sex on camera, but not to pay her just to have sex.

WTF?




Use that to your advantage.  
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 7:04:51 PM EDT
[#19]
cocaine is a helluva drug
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 7:06:32 PM EDT
[#20]
Tag
For lighting and location tips
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 7:07:38 PM EDT
[#21]
I don't know but bless their hearts for doing it.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 7:11:13 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
drugs, sexually abused, low self esteem, choose your poison.

ANdy



+1 See above!
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:58:31 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
<snip>

A lot of these girls don't look like drugged out skanks, they look like everyday hot girls. I can't imagine most of these ameture internet porn sites pay these girls that much. I'm sure less than porn movies that are actually being produced by a production company.

WTF?



It is real easy to get a girl to flash her bewbies or pie.  At least half will do it at the asking by almost any man.  Add a camera and they are pushing each other out of the way to let you take pics.  At least thats my experience.



DETAILS, MAN DETAILS!!!
GR



The details aren't much, really.

I have had a Harley since I was 16 and have been to Sturgis a couple times, Daytona and Myrtle Beach half a dozen times, Milwaukee for the 90th, Laconia a couple times, Laughlin once, other local rallies, raced dirt drags with some friends in the NE (PA, Maryland, etc), college spring breaks a couple times, and been all over the country on the motorcycle.

Sometimes I would run just the bike, and sometimes haul with some friends in a school bus they bought and remodeled to be a "winnebago" type deal.

Pretty much everywhere you went, you drank and shouted "show me your tits" to women.  At least half the ones that showed their tits would show their kitty or butt if asked.  If they showed everything there was a good chance of having sex with them.  The whole herd mentality thing takes place with some women also, if one is showing their body others will see and compete with them.  

There was also a sign/banner with the same sentiments we would put on the bus when we were going somewhere, so loads of women would be honking and lifting their shirts or mooning you while on the highways.

It's kinda like those "wild women" (or whatever the title) videos are that go around and videotape at bars and parties.  The girls get naked and do things at the slightest provocation..  It was pretty much like that, only raunchier.




Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:07:13 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

I have had a Harley since I was 16 and have been to Sturgis a couple times, Daytona and Myrtle Beach half a dozen times, Milwaukee for the 90th, Laconia a couple times, Laughlin once, other local rallies, raced dirt drags with some friends in the NE (PA, Maryland, etc), college spring breaks a couple times, and been all over the country on the motorcycle.

Sometimes I would run just the bike, and sometimes haul with some friends in a school bus they bought and remodeled to be a "winnebago" type deal.

Pretty much everywhere you went, you drank and shouted "show me your tits" to women.  At least half the ones that showed their tits would show their kitty or butt if asked.  If they showed everything there was a good chance of having sex with them.  The whole herd mentality thing takes place with some women also, if one is showing their body others will see and compete with them.  

There was also a sign/banner with the same sentiments we would put on the bus when we were going somewhere, so loads of women would be honking and lifting their shirts or mooning you while on the highways.

It's kinda like those "wild women" (or whatever the title) videos are that go around and videotape at bars and parties.  The girls get naked and do things at the slightest provocation..  It was pretty much like that, only raunchier.




In general, your post says more about women that go to motorcycle rallies than women in general.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:08:28 AM EDT
[#25]



i don't think they do. i think a lot of ugly girls get involved in porn, and then use their money to throw on a set of boobs, a new nose, gym membership, etc.


Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:57:02 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Dont' get me wrong, I like my porn, as do all real men, but sometimes I think...

These girls are someones daughter...

can you imagine looking at porn and seeing a pic of your daughter getting railed by the biggest dick in the business???


Makes me glad I don't have kids...


Back to porn.

All you guys are worried about some hung monster doing some chick, well you gotta realize that that thing will stretch to let a basketball in, I mean really did you ever see videos of triplets or quadruplets popping outta there?
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:09:04 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

In general, your post says more about women that go to motorcycle rallies than women in general.



Its not "women that go to motorcycle rallies".

Some were there for the rally, some for spring break, some to be at the beach.  Some just went to see what it is about or were just there.  The ones on the road weren't going to any rally.

All of them are also "Susie Lawyer", or ""Mary Nurse", or "Joanie Secretary", just normal people.



Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:14:06 AM EDT
[#28]
Personally, if I were a woman, I'd be the most famous Hollywood Lesbian Porn Actress in the history of mankind.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:16:38 AM EDT
[#29]
I don't know, but God bless them.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 8:21:45 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
Frontline did an excellent porn episode, which you can view online here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/porn/view/



That was interesting. I had no idea Bush and Ashcroft were about to launch a major assualt on porn. Then 9/11 happened and it was dropped.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 8:21:55 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
Its not "women that go to motorcycle rallies".

Some were there for the rally, some for spring break, some to be at the beach.  Some just went to see what it is about or were just there.  The ones on the road weren't going to any rally.

All of them are also "Susie Lawyer", or ""Mary Nurse", or "Joanie Secretary", just normal people.



Thats why I said, in general. Most of your post related to stuff from rallies, and you have to admit that in general theres more of a sense that anything goes.I know what you mean about women on the road. There is an element of anonymity that gives some women a sense they can do that sort of thing. Flashing someone passing you on the road is hardly the same as doing the hard core porn stuff.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 8:27:15 AM EDT
[#32]
Because a great number of women nowadays seems to have very little dignity or self-esteem and even less modesty.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 8:52:14 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
Thats why I said, in general. Most of your post related to stuff from rallies, and you have to admit that in general theres more of a sense that anything goes.I know what you mean about women on the road. There is an element of anonymity that gives some women a sense they can do that sort of thing. Flashing someone passing you on the road is hardly the same as doing the hard core porn stuff.



I thought you were working the "women at rallies were low class" or some such idea.

I agree that some of it deals with being away from where they live and thinking no one who knows them will ever see.  

The main thing that amazed me was that so many were willing to do it.  From 65 year old grandmothers down to 18 year old college girls.  

Link Posted: 2/24/2006 8:58:25 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
OK, there has always been porn movies, but I don't think that there was really that many different women doing it, but now with the internet, there must be a couple thousand different ameture pron sites so there must be thousands of hot girls willing to do whatever. And there are still the traditional porn movies being made as well.

I mean how does this work, so does some guy go up to every hot girl they see and say:

Porn guy: Hi there, what's your name?

Hot girl: Tiffany

Porn guy: How would you like to get gang banged by 7 black guys.

Hot girl: Maybe, how much would you pay me?

Porn guy: $1000

Hot girl: Fuck yeah, where do I sign?

A lot of these girls don't look like drugged out skanks, they look like everyday hot girls. I can't imagine most of these ameture internet porn sites pay these girls that much. I'm sure less than porn movies that are actually being produced by a production company.

WTF?



In your above mentioned scenario these girls aren't amature porn stars.  They are professional porn stars.  They are under contract for whomever is making the film for either video release or net release.  
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 9:03:22 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What I don't understand is how it's legal to pay some girl to have sex on camera, but not to pay her just to have sex.

WTF?




Sounds like someone who has been arrested for solicitation



I WAS ONLY ASKING FOR DIRECTIONS!
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 9:03:53 AM EDT
[#36]
Girls hold all the cards in the sex game because men are just physically addicted to it and most women are sort of indifferent.  So they can get paid all kinds of money to do this stuff that men would do for free any day of the week.

Want to get laid?
Man: Hell yeah!!! What do I have to do?
Women: Not really, but how much will you pay me?
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 9:08:11 AM EDT
[#37]
Porn is a stain on the soul.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 9:09:12 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
Porn is a stain on the soul.



Does it match the stain on the couch?
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 9:11:25 AM EDT
[#39]
Because guys are willing to pay money to watch
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 9:14:07 AM EDT
[#40]
Thank goodness for the fall of the Soviet Union and Warsaw pact. Lots of the hotties are from former com-block countries. $500 bucks is a lot of cash for them.

For the American girls:
Money for meth.
Money for coke.
Attention whores.
Daddy issues.
True nymphos.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 10:25:51 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Porn is a stain on the soul.



Does it match the stain on the couch?



You should be more careful.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 12:23:43 PM EDT
[#42]
Porn like prostitution is the easy way out you can use the prime years of your life to lay on your back or other positions for about 11 minutes while some ugly old fart slobbers grunts and then groans, but try studying and being someone maybe work a full time job and go to school full time which is real work , it is the easy way out for most of these girls.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 1:08:40 PM EDT
[#43]
A guy I know who make porn flicks recruits/casts at fitness centers. He says it works because the women there are proud of their bodies and want to show them off. Porn is one way to do that.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 1:12:57 PM EDT
[#44]
Who cares why? As long as they keep doing it
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 1:13:02 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:
What ill never understand is why it is illegal to go pay whore A $40 for some sex but if you pay whore B $400 bucks to do the same damn thing on film it legal



thats because its technically freedom of speech when you film it.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 4:56:56 PM EDT
[#46]
53vortec: So lemme get this straight- if I spend $100 dollars on a date to get a woman to have sex with me, it's legal?

THE MAN: Correct.

53vortec: But if I just give a woman $100 to have sex with me, it's illegal?

THE MAN: That's right.

53vortec: But if I give a woman $100 to have sex with me, but video tape it for the purpose of making a profit, it's legal again?

THE MAN: Yup.

53vortec: I'm missing something here...
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:16:09 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
53vortec: So lemme get this straight- if I spend $100 dollars on a date to get a woman to have sex with me, it's legal?

THE MAN: Correct.

53vortec: But if I just give a woman $100 to have sex with me, it's illegal?

THE MAN: That's right.

53vortec: But if I give a woman $100 to have sex with me, but video tape it for the purpose of making a profit, it's legal again?

THE MAN: Yup.

53vortec: I'm missing something here...

That shit so goes with your avatar.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:16:18 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
What I don't understand is how it's legal to pay some girl to have sex on camera, but not to pay her just to have sex.

WTF?



Because porn movies and pics are protected as "Artistic Expression" under the 1st Amendment. That's how they get around it, and they pay large amounts of money to shady lawyers that inter-twine "Anal Blasters #8" with Gray's Anatomy textbooks.

For instance, if some gal were to walk naked down the street, she'd get arrested for public indecency, but if the same woman does that on stage and rolls around in Hershey's chocolate syrup then its ok...she can even get the govt to pay for it with an NEA grant (that did happen by the way).

So I guess before you pick up your next hooker, don't ask "How much?"....yell out something like "Free the Botswanna 9" ....then you can argue with the judge that your conversations with the undercover officer was merely  politically oriented debate
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:19:02 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:
53vortec: So lemme get this straight- if I spend $100 dollars on a date to get a woman to have sex with me, it's legal?

THE MAN: Correct.

53vortec: But if I just give a woman $100 to have sex with me, it's illegal?

THE MAN: That's right.

53vortec: But if I give a woman $100 to have sex with me, but video tape it for the purpose of making a profit, it's legal again?

THE MAN: Yup.

53vortec: I'm missing something here...

That shit so goes with your avatar.



^^ fear and loathing in las vegas is on HDNET movies next too.

:)
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 11:50:02 AM EDT
[#50]
Not really here nor there, but in the olden days of porn (20 years ago) weren't 80-90 percent of the actresses (and quite a few of the actors) Jewish?
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