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Posted: 2/18/2006 2:53:26 PM EDT
Here in Birmingham, homicides are way up, we had a big increase last year, and are on a record setting pace this year. There were approx 120 murders in Birmingham in 1992, it was the all time high, they slowly declined to around 60-70, until 2 years ago, then they started rising again, there were approx. 110 last year, and 18 so far this year. I am confident this has nothing to do with the AWB going away, but worry that the libs will use the increase for ammunition. What is the general homicide trend elsewhere? up or down? Also as in most cases the homicides in B'ham are done by someone the victim knows, and are not random, and I can't remember any where a AW was mentioned as the murder weapon.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:01:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sta1treeman:
Here in Birmingham, homicides are way up, we had a big increase last year, and are on a record setting pace this year. There were approx 120 murders in Birmingham in 1992, it was the all time high, they slowly declined to around 60-70, until 2 years ago, then they started rising again, there were approx. 110 last year, and 18 so far this year. I am confident this has nothing to do with the AWB going away, but worry that the libs will use the increase for ammunition. What is the general homicide trend elsewhere? up or down? Also as in most cases the homicides in B'ham are done by someone the victim knows, and are not random, and I can't remember any where a AW was mentioned as the murder weapon.


In my little suburb, I haven't noticed. As far as Chicago, I think murder has actually decreased. Don't quote me on this.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:07:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/18/2006 3:07:53 PM EDT by sta1treeman]
That's what I want to know, is this a local trend, or national, I don't live in the city, and the county, excluding B'ham is about the same, pretty low.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:08:31 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:09:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/18/2006 3:12:04 PM EDT by JFP]
IN Dallas they say it has gone down but when I was with the Ft. Worth PD years ago they had a way of determining how they classified certain crimes that would in effect change the actual statistics
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:11:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:13:18 PM EDT
Damn right it has. Why, just yeasterday two squirrels got into a fight over some acorns.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:14:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Paul:
Crime in Birmingham AL by year:

Murders:
1999 - 78
2000 - 79
2001 - 73
2003 - 85 (35 per 100,000)

Population: 242,820 (est.)

Crime in Riverside CA by year:

Murders:
1999 - 30
2000 - 17
2001 - 20
2002 - 20
2003 -24 (9.4 per 100,000)

Population: 255,166 (est.)

Dang gun control must work!

California's gun control must be the cause of our 75% reduction in the amount of crime compared to Alabama. You'll also note that when California passed a law prohibitting the purchase of new pistol gripped rifles that the murder rate in Riverside dropped nearly in half proving that old rifles can't be used in a crime!

San Bernardino has a murder rate of 25.9 per 100,000 which is closer to Birmingham's 35 ... and San Bernardino is the closest thing we have around here to the pits with it's drug gangs. One of the worse places in Los Angeles would be Compton with 46.0 and it's the nastiest place you can imagine.


so gun control only works in certain cities?
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:14:41 PM EDT
Had four little non-locals steal my daughters bike off my front porch last Mothers Day, in broad daylight no less - my neighbor came over and told me after the punks left the block.

Caught them around the corner and retrieved the bike, had the two who actually committed the crime arrested. I'm sure mom was real proud of her 2 sons - 13yrs and 11yrs old, that day.

Basically told the 4 little pricks, "I hope you little scumbags realize how lucky you are we dont live in Texas."
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:17:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:20:30 PM EDT
I live in Louisiana, after Katrina I think crime went up over 70% in my city.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:32:48 PM EDT
We all ready had 23 murders here in Jacksonville, Fla. this year . We are on top for murder.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:38:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:43:30 PM EDT
No, but if my week doesn't get better and I have to go into town it could.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 4:11:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ICEAGE:
I live in Louisiana, after Katrina I think crime went up over 70% in my city.

We could tell we saw it LIVE for months.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 4:14:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By M4-TUNA:
We all ready had 23 murders here in Jacksonville, Fla. this year . We are on top for murder.




pffffffffffffftt.

give us time. welfare checks don't mail out until the 1st

We were on top for the state I dont think the Country. We bet out Miami . There is about a Mill living here and most of the crimes were done by BM on BM
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 4:16:40 PM EDT
Union County, Oregon -


The number of violent crimes recorded by the FBI in 2003 was 11. The number of murders and homicides was 0. The violent crime rate was 0.9 per 1,000 people.


Link Posted: 2/18/2006 5:03:35 PM EDT


Savannah, GA

Short Answer - yes

Longer Answer -
Conveniently enough, on Dec. 19, the FBI released preliminary 2005 statistics comparing the first six months of the year with the first six months of 2004.

Compared to the first half of 2004, January through June of 2005 saw an increase of 15 percent in incidents of violent crime (515 to 591) and a 24 percent increase in property crime (4,428 to 5,484).

Within those violent crime statistics, the number of aggravated assaults skyrocketed 87 percent from 162 to 303, while robberies actually fell 17 percent from 304 to 253.

Murders for the year in Savannah are up about 50 percent over the 23 in 2004. The mid-year stats on motor vehicle theft point to an 18 percent increase from 2004 to 2005.

http://www.savannahnow.com/stories/123105/3529033.shtml
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 5:12:14 PM EDT
<----- Houston

for some reason , the crime statistics for the city for the last 6-8 months are " inconclusive".
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 5:56:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By just-mike:
<----- Houston

for some reason , the crime statistics for the city for the last 6-8 months are " inconclusive".




It's bullshat! The Crime Rate is skyrocketing thats to the Katrina shatheads! Send them home now!
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 6:01:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By just-mike:
<----- Houston

for some reason , the crime statistics for the city for the last 6-8 months are " inconclusive".


thinly veiled sarcasm
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 11:58:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
i am up close to warrior. cow tipping is on the rise as well

That was always fun! On a not so fun note, there have been several animals shot with bows in surounding counties.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 12:20:58 AM EDT
I work in Baltimore - crime is already so bad I can't tell when it's getting better or worse.

At home though, I don't think I've ever even heard of a crime. We don't even have a police department.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 12:28:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By just-mike:
<----- Houston

for some reason , the crime statistics for the city for the last 6-8 months are " inconclusive".



if you read the arrests for the past 72hours for Harris county every one is either white or black, if your aisian, mexican your white. They had a big stink about racial profiling and they said they arrested too many blacks vs whites, well they fixed that.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 12:38:58 AM EDT
I live in a new, very small subdivision in the county. 5 of my 8 neighbors are either police, state troopers or a retired Texas Ranger and his wife.

My main interest would be in seeing who opened fire first.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 1:24:47 AM EDT
Come on up and stay in Detroit for a while.........
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 8:54:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gus:
I work in Baltimore - crime is already so bad I can't tell when it's getting better or worse.

At home though, I don't think I've ever even heard of a crime. We don't even have a police department.



I live in PG County. Crime gets worse every year. DC has effectively shipped most of their trash here.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 8:59:13 AM EDT
I am in Baton Rouge, LA. Pre Katrina, things were great. Post Katrina....that's another story. We have all of these "evacuees" here that are apparently here to stay. I wanted to live in Baton Rouge because it wasn't "evacuee" infested like New Orleans. Now it seems that BR has become a mini New Orleans.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 3:38:19 PM EDT
Birmingham's murder rate started rising before Katrina, and if the evacuees we have caused crime in general to rise, it wouldn't make it to the news. The majority, probably 95% or above is BM on BM, and inner city. Someone mentioned crystal meth as the reason, it is in the inner city here, but not like in the outlying areas, and homicides outside of the city, have remained about the same. IMO crystal meth isn't the cause of Birminghams increase. I don't know what the cause is, I just worry that the increase will be used for more gun control. Does anyone know what the national statistics are?
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