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Posted: 2/13/2006 9:13:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2006 9:14:26 PM EDT by ALPHAGHOST]


in this documentary it seems they are all grouped together

i know that they all go for "white power", etc--but thats where similarity ends

i thought that 'skinhead'=Neo Nazis and they did not like/respect the KKK and vice versa....

NN are more 'organized' and more 'educated' or so i was told once, true?

i believe that everyone has a right to thier opinions and thier point of view....just as long as violence is avoided

so this is NOT a flame or whatever-so pls dont turn it into one
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:22:11 PM EDT
I'm watching it, and know several of the LEOs that were shown during the march. This shit didn't amount to anything more than a bean fart, this show is probably more than 10 years old, and there hasn't been a peep out of these shitheads since.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:23:49 PM EDT
I think these people are a prime example of stupidity.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:28:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HarrySacz:
I think these people are a prime example of stupidity.



+1. How do they expect people to take them even remotely seriously?

Fuck 88s.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:29:25 PM EDT
This show would lead some to believe that this is the norm in Bama, it is not. I guess they are all fags, I haven't seen one girl yet.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:30:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2006 9:32:33 PM EDT by ALPHAGHOST]

Originally Posted By sta1treeman:
I'm watching it, and know several of the LEOs that were shown during the march. This shit didn't amount to anything more than a bean fart, this show is probably more than 10 years old, and there hasn't been a peep out of these shitheads since.



yea, the style of clothes seems to be a little out and the camera quality less than up to date


Originally Posted By sta1treeman:
This show would lead some to believe that this is the norm in Bama, it is not. I guess they are all fags, I haven't seen one girl yet.





i'm sorry, but that was funny

Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:31:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2006 9:40:51 PM EDT by ALPHAGHOST]

Originally Posted By PhatForrest:

Originally Posted By HarrySacz:
I think these people are a prime example of stupidity.



+1. How do they expect people to take them even remotely seriously?

Fuck 88s.



88s?
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:34:30 PM EDT
It was supposed to be! but it's also true. Old dude living in the woods with a bunch of young boys, looks kinda suspect to me.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:36:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:
88s?

H is th e 8th letter in the alphabet. Hile Hitler
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:36:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2006 9:37:17 PM EDT by ALPHAGHOST]

Originally Posted By sta1treeman:

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:
88s?

H is th e 8th letter in the alphabet. Hile Hitler



ah...thanks

the only 88s i know of are the german 88mm from the war
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:40:48 PM EDT
The only way I knew that, was Goody's ( the clothing store) was selling shirts that said varsity, and had 88 on it like a jersey, and people were offended. If it weren't for that I would have never given a second thought to 88 on a shirt.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:46:33 PM EDT
Still no chicks? deffinetly queer. They should change their name to foreskin heads.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:59:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sta1treeman:
Still no chicks? deffinetly queer. They should change their name to foreskin heads.



i guess they were out....

that was the most uninformative documentary i have seen in a while....seemed like a biography on rico
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 10:00:21 PM EDT
One word:

Linens

KKK uses 'em, Skinheads don't.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 10:01:01 PM EDT
Well, that was disturbing.

What a sad, pathetic group of people. Where's Darwin when you need him?


- BG
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 10:15:51 PM EDT
The guys that were in jail, beat and stabbed a homless guy, who was asleep in an alley, they turned into very normal middle class kids, that were lead astray, when they went to court. This also shows that a kid growing up in a home, with his/her father abscent, is equally bad, whether black or white.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 10:19:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2006 10:19:39 PM EDT by Lockedon]

Originally Posted By sta1treeman:

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:
88s?

H is th e 8th letter in the alphabet. Heil Hitler




I'd call myself a German Grammar Nazi, but I think that would be in bad taste given the context of this thread.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 10:24:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2006 10:25:07 PM EDT by sta1treeman]
Hile, heil, both words I have never said or spelled before, and German spelling Nazi, would have fit great, poking fun at these dip shits, has kinda been the common theme here.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 10:27:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sta1treeman:
The guys that were in jail, beat and stabbed a homless guy, who was asleep in an alley, they turned into very normal middle class kids, that were lead astray, when they went to court. This also shows that a kid growing up in a home, with his/her father abscent, is equally bad, whether black or white.



+1

doesnt matter who or what you believe in sometimes--everyone/anyone is capable of evil

i wonder what Neo-Nazis in Germany/EU think of US's NNs/KKKs
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 10:37:39 PM EDT
Same crap, different toilet.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 10:44:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2006 10:44:57 PM EDT by sta1treeman]

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:

Originally Posted By sta1treeman:
The guys that were in jail, beat and stabbed a homless guy, who was asleep in an alley, they turned into very normal middle class kids, that were lead astray, when they went to court. This also shows that a kid growing up in a home, with his/her father abscent, is equally bad, whether black or white.



+1

doesnt matter who or what you believe in sometimes--everyone/anyone is capable of evil

i wonder what Neo-Nazis in Germany/EU think of US's NNs/KKKs

Interesting question? They wanted pure German blood, 99.99% of Americans are muts, so the real SS, or todays NNs in Germany, would probably believe in exterminating the US FSH(foreskin heads), or the united aryian front, I think thats the united name name for SH's, NN, and KKK, I think...........also It takes a brave group, to attack a homless guy, while asleep in an alley, ......... cowardly, and shameless,........very sad all the way around.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 10:50:50 PM EDT
sorry, family guy just answered my question--stewie and brian are touring Germany and get into it w/ the tour guide
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 11:13:51 PM EDT
I saw when/if the SHTF we off these pieces of scum.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 11:16:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By heavytank2:
I saw when/if the SHTF we off these pieces of scum.



Good idea.
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 4:24:30 AM EDT
Skinheads were the original "wiggers". After the influx of West Indian immigrants settled in the urban centers of Britain in the 1950's and 60's, the local white kids, looking to piss off mum n dad, started to dress like the "Rude Boys" from Jamaica, and listen to Jamaican music like Ska, Rock Steady, and Reggae. In 1969, Reggae was associated more with Skinheads than any other demographic. In the early 70's, around 73, the British National Front, a pro Nazi, anti immigrant, anti-communist organization, began to recruit Skinhead street toughs using free beer, just like the Nazis in the 30's. Skinheads had gotten a violent reputation due to gang wars, Bank Holiday riots, and Soccer hooliganism, that was blown waaaaaaaay out of proportion by the British tabloid press. So once the NF began recruiting, again the tabloid press had a field day. Kind of like Oprah, Jenny Jones, Morton Downey Jr. and Geraldo did in the late 80's here. These jokers you see on these shows represent Skinheads about the same way Timothy McVeigh represents veterans. I know pilots, doctors, lawyers, businessmen, school teachers, chefs, musicians, and actors that are or were Skinheads. I know White, Jewish, Black, Bi-Racial, Hispanic, Christian, Muslim, Asian, Hindu, Wiccan, Asatruist, and Buddhist Skins, or former Skins. There are even Skinhead paramedics, police officers, SWAT Team members. The media has decided Skinheads are evil, so it MUST be true, right? RIGHT?
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 4:59:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/14/2006 5:00:15 AM EDT by chooper]
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 5:15:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/14/2006 5:15:25 AM EDT by ATLGA]
George M. couldnt have written it better -- skinhead bible
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 5:42:05 AM EDT
All three groups are distinctly different. While there is some cross-pollination between all three, you could say that about any group on the planet.

The term "skinhead" does not denote any political persuasion. "Neo-Nazi" of course, denotes affiliation with national socialist ideals (but many may just be homosexuals who like to dress up in those spiffy uniforms). "KKK" denotes affiliation with a combination of americanist politics, with a healthy dose of Southrun folkways and overt racial identity. The stereotype, however, is of a fat and ignorant idiot.

I used to be fascinated with all of the above. It was kind of my hobby to know what they were up to. Not in necessarily either a hostile or sympathetic way, but rather like someone who walks through a zoo and observes all the animals. I was in attendance when Louis Beam gave his notorious "To Hell with the Federal Government" speech. I was also in his presence right after the OKC Bombing. One of my immediate supervisors about fifteen years ago was the son in law of perhaps the most well-known tax protesters in the country. He ended up in prison, soon after trying to recruit me. Had dinner with Bo Gritz during his '92 campaign. Even helped him load up his plane with gifts from well-wishers.

They may be weird and profoundly offensive to some, but they are awfully fun to drink beer with.
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 6:02:06 AM EDT

Had dinner with Bo Gritz during his '92 campaign.


What does this have to do w/skinheads/neonazis, etc.? Not a flame. Just curious.

Was this before or after his wife left him & he cracked up?

Did he ever move back to Jamestown ND?
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 6:24:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hardcase:

Had dinner with Bo Gritz during his '92 campaign.


What does this have to do w/skinheads/neonazis, etc.? Not a flame. Just curious.

Was this before or after his wife left him & he cracked up?

Did he ever move back to Jamestown ND?



While he would deny it, he would schmooze anybody if he thought he could get some support or adulation from them. That includes skinheads and neo-nazis (he was at one time David Duke's running mate).

This was well before he became obsessed with a certain Linda Weigand; followed closely by his wife leaving him and his attempted suicide.

Another little known bit of trivia: I personally witnessed the guy who played the leader of the outlaw biker gang in the Clint Eastwood movies rubbing shoulders with {nevermind....}

Just remembered another little gem. The leader of the Jewish Defense League (Irv Rubin) was harassing a church group that I was with. Being one of the very few men "of military age" amongst the group, I went to go deal with him. He backed down immediately, probably because he didn't want to be arrested. Now, Irv Rubin was a fairly big fellow, and quite possibly could have stomped me good. He later committed suicide, while he was in prison for plotting a bombing/murder.

He did "get me good", though. I was driving down the street just south of L.A., when the radio announcer said that "Police are looking for (GySgtD), for questioning in the Nicole Simpson/Ron Goldman murders. CNN called me asking for an interview shortly thereafter. My car was vandalized a couple days later. What I figured happened was that he simply noted the name on my "Hello, my name is.... and I'm from...." sticker that I wore during our little incident. I guess the JDL guys made up some tale to tell the police. Last time I checked, my name was still listed on an internet "Who's who in the OJ Simpson murder case".

Those few years were definately some weird ones.
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 6:28:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/14/2006 6:29:26 AM EDT by Bullitt3401]
I saw the commercial for that documentary a few days ago.

I knew it was nothing more than the left's attempt to divert the viewers attention to the much larger threat to the USA. (The so-called "Religon of Peace")

I'd bet a lot of those 88's were actually undercover FBI/ATF agents. I think it might make more sense for them to keep an eye on all the mosques here.

I've lived in the south all my life, and I've never even seen someone with the Nazi/skinhead sterotypical look. A&E is trying to make something out of virtually nothing.

Scott
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 6:36:54 AM EDT
I wouldn't call them totally irrelevant. The little son of a bitch that hacked up, and shot the 3 guys in the Mass, gay club, came down here and shot and killed Gassville, AR police officer Jim Sell and then his own passenger before offing himself. While I'm glad that he is dead, I wish Officer Sell was still alive. Anyway, he was a NN. There are several NN and Klan groups in North AR.
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 6:43:22 AM EDT
I watched some of this last night, what's with these assholes??

They talk about being national socialists and how hitler is in their heart then they start talking about god and how they would due for their god and then they burn the cross.

Bunch a fucking loons.

Link Posted: 2/14/2006 6:54:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/14/2006 6:55:48 AM EDT by Zarathustra1]

Originally Posted By heavytank2:
I say when/if the SHTF we off these pieces of scum all Arabs in America.




Link Posted: 2/14/2006 6:58:15 AM EDT
I am a skinhead.....well, I get my hair buzzed once a month, so I'm only a skinhead for a few days after the hair cut...then it grows back

Seriously though....these groups utter lack of success leads me to believe they are all full of shit.
They dont promote racial purity, they promote chaos.
If they were truly interested in keeping their race pure, they would put themselves in a socio-economic position to supress those which they profess to hate. Protests marches and violence do nothing...financial superiority is the only way to ensure a stronghold over another.
These groups are large enough to harness their membership to start small businesses, generate income, and purchase political backing, even if only agreed to in private.

Blacks, Indians, Asians, Eastern Europeans.....all these groups have done the same thing in America throughout our history of immigration. The Chinese and Italians set up their own neighborhoods....buying and selling goods amongst themselves. Black communities have made the same attempts. It's basic common sense. Yet, these hate groups seem to miss the point...if they want to promote white power...perhaps they should obtain some real power first. Weapons and muscles will never make them more powerful than finance and political backing.
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 6:11:55 PM EDT
so deep down, racial hatred and view aside, political and economic power is the way to establish viable power and influence....makes sence

so estb influence, then push radical views

Link Posted: 2/14/2006 6:20:33 PM EDT
I tried being a skin head once, but the j-fro and nose was a dead giveaway...
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 9:13:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sta1treeman:

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:
88s?

H is th e 8th letter in the alphabet. Hile Hitler



In the case of these slack jawed yokels, 88 could stand for Hee Haw!
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 9:44:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bullitt3401:

I've lived in the south all my life, and I've never even seen someone with the Nazi/skinhead sterotypical look. A&E is trying to make something out of virtually nothing.

Scott



Indeed. I have never seen a 'skinhead'. I know quite a few people with former ties to the Klan, mostly from the '50s and '60s. The very few modern Klan I have met are total 'tards and I dont consider them a credible threat to anyone.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 9:57:05 AM EDT
I think I ran into three skinheads in downtown Athens GA. They were dressed like the kids are in this documentary except a little more 'punkish.' They demanded money as they saw us exit an ATM and I was sure they were about to swing as I was pretty much surrounded and they were acting all tough. I was with my wife and one of her female friends and figured I'll get my ass kicked and the girls will hopefully run. As the guy on Mythbusters says I thought I had a 70% chance of getting my ass kicked and walking away, a 25% chance of getting my ass kicked and ending up in the hospital, and a 5 % chance of us all getting away unscathed. The three skinheads backed down quickly and walked off calling me all sorts of names. I made sure to stay on well lit and populated streets the rest of the night. I about shat myself even though they ended up being wussy punks. I did tell two cops down the block but they didn't care.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 7:49:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OneMoreMag:
I think I ran into three skinheads in downtown Athens GA....



Damn. Most likely some punkass local twits making my Alma Mater look bad.

Link Posted: 2/15/2006 7:52:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2006 7:55:15 PM EDT by WildBoar]
Actually the Nazis and Klan Klowns hijacked the Skinhead scene and now everyone links skinheads with those tards.


Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:01:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
Actually the Nazis and Klan Klowns hijacked the Skinhead scene and now everyone links skinheads with those tards.



Tell people all you want; if they don't see it on TV they won't believe it.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:03:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zarathustra1:

Originally Posted By heavytank2:
I say when/if the SHTF we off these pieces of scum all Arabs in America.







Umm....say what?
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:05:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By Zarathustra1:

Originally Posted By heavytank2:
I say when/if the SHTF we off these pieces of scum all Arabs in America.







Umm....say what?



You heard right pilgrim
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:10:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By Zarathustra1:

Originally Posted By heavytank2:
I say when/if the SHTF we off these pieces of scum all Arabs in America.







Umm....say what?



You heard right pilgrim



Why, cause you think they are Muslims?
Jesus Christ, but you are a simpleton.
Most Arabs in America are Christians.
Since I know you don't believe me, I posted the graph below.


If I was a pussy, I'd tattle tale on you for a "kill 'em all" comment.
But where is the fun in silencing an opponent, when you can catch them with their foot in their mouth?
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:11:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By Zarathustra1:

Originally Posted By heavytank2:
I say when/if the SHTF we off these pieces of scum all Arabs in America.







Umm....say what?



You heard right pilgrim



Why, cause you think they are Muslims?
Jesus Christ, but you are a simpleton.
Most Arabs in America are Christians.
Since I know you don't believe me, I posted the graph below.
i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/thedoctors308/religious_affliations.gif

If I was a pussy, I'd tattle tale on you for a "kill 'em all" comment.
But where is the fun in silencing an opponent, when you can catch them with their foot in their mouth?



Propaganda.

btw, you are a pussy, so go snitch already.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:14:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2006 8:15:54 PM EDT by Misery]

Originally Posted By Pat-Riot:
Skinheads were the original "wiggers". After the influx of West Indian immigrants settled in the urban centers of Britain in the 1950's and 60's, the local white kids, looking to piss off mum n dad, started to dress like the "Rude Boys" from Jamaica, and listen to Jamaican music like Ska, Rock Steady, and Reggae. In 1969, Reggae was associated more with Skinheads than any other demographic. In the early 70's, around 73, the British National Front, a pro Nazi, anti immigrant, anti-communist organization, began to recruit Skinhead street toughs using free beer, just like the Nazis in the 30's. Skinheads had gotten a violent reputation due to gang wars, Bank Holiday riots, and Soccer hooliganism, that was blown waaaaaaaay out of proportion by the British tabloid press. So once the NF began recruiting, again the tabloid press had a field day. Kind of like Oprah, Jenny Jones, Morton Downey Jr. and Geraldo did in the late 80's here. These jokers you see on these shows represent Skinheads about the same way Timothy McVeigh represents veterans. I know pilots, doctors, lawyers, businessmen, school teachers, chefs, musicians, and actors that are or were Skinheads. I know White, Jewish, Black, Bi-Racial, Hispanic, Christian, Muslim, Asian, Hindu, Wiccan, Asatruist, and Buddhist Skins, or former Skins. There are even Skinhead paramedics, police officers, SWAT Team members. The media has decided Skinheads are evil, so it MUST be true, right? RIGHT?



Hey! Someone knows their history.

It's true! Original skinheads were mere working class kids who worked in factories. They couldn't afford nice clothes, so they went to Jamaican night clubs wearing their work clothes. Boots, pants that were often too big, so they had suspenders.

I have a fair amount of Ska, and some of it makes reference to skinheads in a positive way. Desmond Decker had a song where he mentions skinheads right in the beginning of it.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:15:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2006 8:16:00 PM EDT by thedoctors308]

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By Zarathustra1:

Originally Posted By heavytank2:
I say when/if the SHTF we off these pieces of scum all Arabs in America.







Umm....say what?



You heard right pilgrim



Why, cause you think they are Muslims?
Jesus Christ, but you are a simpleton.
Most Arabs in America are Christians.
Since I know you don't believe me, I posted the graph below.
i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/thedoctors308/religious_affliations.gif

If I was a pussy, I'd tattle tale on you for a "kill 'em all" comment.
But where is the fun in silencing an opponent, when you can catch them with their foot in their mouth?



Propaganda.

btw, you are a pussy, so go snitch already.




You sound like a liberal - presented with facts, and you throw a hissy fit.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:37:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Misery:

Originally Posted By Pat-Riot:
Skinheads were the original "wiggers". After the influx of West Indian immigrants settled in the urban centers of Britain in the 1950's and 60's, the local white kids, looking to piss off mum n dad, started to dress like the "Rude Boys" from Jamaica, and listen to Jamaican music like Ska, Rock Steady, and Reggae. In 1969, Reggae was associated more with Skinheads than any other demographic. In the early 70's, around 73, the British National Front, a pro Nazi, anti immigrant, anti-communist organization, began to recruit Skinhead street toughs using free beer, just like the Nazis in the 30's. Skinheads had gotten a violent reputation due to gang wars, Bank Holiday riots, and Soccer hooliganism, that was blown waaaaaaaay out of proportion by the British tabloid press. So once the NF began recruiting, again the tabloid press had a field day. Kind of like Oprah, Jenny Jones, Morton Downey Jr. and Geraldo did in the late 80's here. These jokers you see on these shows represent Skinheads about the same way Timothy McVeigh represents veterans. I know pilots, doctors, lawyers, businessmen, school teachers, chefs, musicians, and actors that are or were Skinheads. I know White, Jewish, Black, Bi-Racial, Hispanic, Christian, Muslim, Asian, Hindu, Wiccan, Asatruist, and Buddhist Skins, or former Skins. There are even Skinhead paramedics, police officers, SWAT Team members. The media has decided Skinheads are evil, so it MUST be true, right? RIGHT?



Hey! Someone knows their history.

It's true! Original skinheads were mere working class kids who worked in factories. They couldn't afford nice clothes, so they went to Jamaican night clubs wearing their work clothes. Boots, pants that were often too big, so they had suspenders.

I have a fair amount of Ska, and some of it makes reference to skinheads in a positive way. Desmond Decker had a song where he mentions skinheads right in the beginning of it.



Couldn`t have said it better myself.
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