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Posted: 2/8/2006 12:36:13 PM EDT
I seem to have acquired a pet rabbit, thanks to some people who decided not to take her back.

She's not spayed.

I just found out that unspayed female rabbits have an 85% chance of cancer in their reproductive system.

Spaying is expensive, even more so on rabbits than on cats because they don't tolerate anaesthetic well.

So, is it ethical for me to leave her unspayed, or should I take her in to a vet to get her spayed?
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 12:36:47 PM EDT
leave it, if it gets sick, it gets sick. it is just a rabbit
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 12:40:42 PM EDT
mmmmm hassenpheffer
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 12:42:06 PM EDT
Let it live for a while, give it a good life, lots of food, fatten it up, AND STEW IT.

Rabbit tastes good, it doesn't require any more care than a chicken, if it's injured or sick just put it down.

It's a rodent, would you take a mouse your cat had wounded to the vet?
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 12:43:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/8/2006 12:44:32 PM EDT by bblake00]
If you're sleeping with a crazy bitch it will be boiled soon enough.

If not then I'd get it done if you are seriuos about keeping it.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 12:44:10 PM EDT
Here's my vote. Yum!
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 12:44:43 PM EDT
I don't think it's unethical. It's nature. If you can deal with the consequences then don't do it.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 12:47:30 PM EDT
Leave it or stew.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 12:52:46 PM EDT

Another option is to contact a rabbit rescue and surrender the rabbit to be re-homed with someone who would give it the veteranary care it needs.

I probably *wouldn't* get a female rabbit if I knew this were the case, but if I did have a female rabbit as a pet, and I found out about this, I'd take her to the vet and have the surgery done.

Jim
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 12:53:05 PM EDT
Rabbits have short life expectacy anyways, they are not supposed to be pets they are supposed to be food, if you want to keep it as a pet do so but dont go get parts cut out of it because you think it will ive longer.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 12:53:11 PM EDT
It is not a rodent, but technically a lagomorph. Too common, cheap, and short-lived for surgery.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 12:55:09 PM EDT
bon appetit
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:07:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By K2QB3:
Let it live for a while, give it a good life, lots of food, fatten it up, AND STEW IT.

Rabbit tastes good, it doesn't require any more care than a chicken, if it's injured or sick just put it down.

It's a rodent(not a rodent it's a lagomorph), would you take a mouse your cat had wounded to the vet?(it the mouse a pet?)

Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:07:59 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:16:13 PM EDT
Whatever you do, don't buy it a stuffed rabbit for a toy.

Friend of mind did that, and the rabbit humped his toy to death.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:23:47 PM EDT
If it was my rabbit and I was going to keep it as a pet I would get it spayed and take care of it properly.

Bunch of rabbit-hating buttmunches!
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:26:52 PM EDT
snakefood
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:30:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/8/2006 1:31:32 PM EDT by Keith_J]
Breed her and slaughter the bunnies when they get 3.5 to 4 pounds live weight.

FAR better than chicken as there is no E. Coli bacteria to worry about. When chickens are processed, the plucking is right after the head removal and all the nasties from the gut gets all over the meat. YUCK!

But with rabbit, you kill them by dislocating the neck with a jerk of the wrist. Then you carefully skin it, keeping the outside out and the inside clean. When you eviscerate, it is very easy to keep the meat perfectly sterile. Not so with chickens.

The meat is very low fat, tender and all white. It is far better than chicken as it has no fat. And it tastes very good. I don't hate rabbits, I LOVE rabbit. When raised, prepared and cooked properly.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:35:05 PM EDT
If people are going to have pets they should spend whatever it takes to provide them with a healthy life or not have pets.

If people are going to raise animals for food they should ensure that the animal is healthy and treated humanely until slaughter.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:40:52 PM EDT
spay it. break it. ride it to work...

Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:48:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 71-Hour_Achmed:

I just found out that unspayed female rabbits have an 85% chance of cancer in their reproductive system.




This is bullshit vet speak for "bring it in so we can make more money!!!"

I have found most vets are as ethical used car salemen and sleazy back dentists (chiropractors). While there are honest and good ones, they are hard to find.

If the above statement were true, there would be dead rabbits everywhere. My (former) vet said the same thing about my lab. Full of Shit he was.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:51:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By st0newall:
spay it. break it. ride it to work...

www.visualjokes.com/funny/funny%20pictures%20bigjack.jpg



Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:58:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Keith_J:
The meat is very low fat, tender and all white. It is far better than chicken as it has no fat. And it tastes very good. I don't hate rabbits, I LOVE rabbit. When raised, prepared and cooked properly.


+1.

To clarify for a couple of people, I didn't "get a pet rabbit", I took her in from some folks who were moving, and whom I thought were going to take her back once they resettled (they in turn had rescued her from someone who was taking very poor care of her). Then they decided they didn't want her back. And another person, who was supposed to help find her a permanent home if this happened, flaked out. Don't get me wrong, she's really sweet -- friendly, cuddly, and very easy to care for (much more so than a cat or dog) -- but this was a temporary favor that turned out to be a permanent one.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:59:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 2:00:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Only in America . . .


Except that I'm in Taiwan.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 2:02:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 2:03:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 71-Hour_Achmed:

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Only in America . . .


Except that I'm in Taiwan.


as they say in Taiwan "you can eat anything with 4 legs except tables and chairs"
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 2:08:51 PM EDT
There is no answer other than what YOU want.

If you are very attached to it, and feel an obligation to take the best care of it that you can, then of course you should do what you can to minimize the risk of cancer.

If you are relatively indifferent, and have already done a good deed by adopting it, then there is nothing wrong with "letting nature take its course" - it would probably have died much sooner if you had not adopted it, so you get "credit" for all its life up to the cancer anyway.



I honestly don't think there is a "correct" answer. I've spent 10K on cancer treatments for my cat, but I don't see anything wrong with someone else deciding that it's not worth $100 to save a cat. As much as I like my cat, it is ultimately still just an animal, and has the meaning and value that YOU place in it.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 2:13:26 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 2:14:04 PM EDT
15% chance it will be just fine. Personally, I will take those odds.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 2:15:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
<snip>



Now that it looks like you won't be going back to Daneland (married and all) there is talk of a group buy to get you spayed. Do we need a poll?




I'm willing to take donations - if people send me enough money I promise I'll get a vasectomy (for the good of mankind).
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 2:17:13 PM EDT
Somehow it's just not the same!
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 2:26:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dvr9:
This is bullshit vet speak for "bring it in so we can make more money!!!"

I have found most vets are as ethical used car salemen and sleazy back dentists (chiropractors). While there are honest and good ones, they are hard to find.

If the above statement were true, there would be dead rabbits everywhere. My (former) vet said the same thing about my lab. Full of Shit he was.


....Ummm, , , , -you do know that after rabbits turn about six months old, they can throw five or six litters a year???..... (and in the wild, most of them probably do)

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I am in the "don't keep a pet unless you will take care of it" camp. Try to find someone else who wants it enough to take proper care of it.
~
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 3:25:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/8/2006 3:26:09 PM EDT by dvr9]

Originally Posted By Floppy_833:

Originally Posted By dvr9:
This is bullshit vet speak for "bring it in so we can make more money!!!"

I have found most vets are as ethical used car salemen and sleazy back dentists (chiropractors). While there are honest and good ones, they are hard to find.

If the above statement were true, there would be dead rabbits everywhere. My (former) vet said the same thing about my lab. Full of Shit he was.


....Ummm, , , , -you do know that after rabbits turn about six months old, they can throw five or six litters a year???..... (and in the wild, most of them probably do)

-----
I am in the "don't keep a pet unless you will take care of it" camp. Try to find someone else who wants it enough to take proper care of it.
~



Yes, I am aware of the procreation habits of the common rabbit and the hare. But I am also aware that vets are like surgeons and used car salesmen. They want to spay and neuter everything they can and run up charges wherever they can. Not all vets are this way, but many are.

Additionally, unless Achmed's rabbit is the Blessed Virgin Mary, he should be fine with it. Immaculate Conceptions in the animal kingdom never happen. Keep the bunny in a cage by itself and there shouldn't be an little bunnys.

BTW, Achmed, does your bunny have a pancake on its head by any chance?
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 4:29:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/8/2006 4:30:24 PM EDT by goodmedicine]
I never understood these questions...

It's an animal, you either care for it, or eat it.

Just make the determination.

GM
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 4:31:32 PM EDT
spade the bunny, its better in the long run for it.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 4:48:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/8/2006 4:48:41 PM EDT by RubberDuck]
There are bad vets, without a doubt, but to say that most of them are "bad" and only interested in money is foolish. By that logic most people on here are mass-murderers-in-waiting.

Anyway, a lot of vets won't spay rabbits because they are much harder to spay than cats/dogs unless the vet has a lot of pactice with them. If the rabbit is a pet then there is nothing wrong with spaying it, but it's your call. I like DKProf's answer.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 6:02:43 PM EDT
spay it or keep it.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 6:09:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 6:34:58 PM EDT
Get her spayed. Spend all the money you ave to to keep her alive. She might save your life some day and you'll thank me.

She might wake you up when someone breaks into your house. Or maybe she'll attack the intruder and kil him/her.



_________________________


Link Posted: 2/8/2006 6:42:40 PM EDT
Rabbit, the other white meat.


So, when's dinner?
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 6:49:12 PM EDT
Use the baby rabbits for training.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 6:54:53 PM EDT
That rabbit is dynamite!

I disbelieve your Vet's statement. It just sounds illogical for the survival of a species.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 7:02:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SS109:


I disbelieve your Vet's statement. It just sounds illogical for the survival of a species.




Not if the species breeds like rabbits.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 4:28:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dvr9:
BTW, Achmed, does your bunny have a pancake on its head by any chance?



No, only my wandering duck has a pancake on its head:




I'll see what happens on finding a new home for her. If I can land a good-paying job (or nail another outrageous options trade like on TASR and MSO), I wouldn't mind the expense so much, but I'm coasting on savings right now and probably will be for the next four to six months.
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