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Posted: 1/31/2006 6:25:49 AM EDT
Dang it, guys... seems like everytime I log onto here there are consistently new threads from guys griping about (us) gals, as a gender. As if we were all general issue with same software to go with the hardware.

Admittedly, I don't have many common interests with most women... but some of my best friends are gals. Working in an all-male environment, I often find myself working as a "translator". And I am as "out of the loop" about a lot of frequent female behavior as a lot of you guys. It doesn't make sense to me either.

But I am wondering... how do you guys (in general) go about selecting mates?

Do you look for beauty first and brains second?

Nothin' wrong with beauty, mind you. But when one choose looks over brains... I mean you get predictable results. Unless a gal really, really takes care of herself, those 'looks' our going to go lard-tub blimpo virtually overnight, and here you (I speak in a figurative sense) come whining to your buddies about why gals are so eff'ed up.

OK, guys...'fess up: Do you end up with screwed up women because you get bedazzled by 'looks' and ignore the grey matter upstairs?
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 6:45:17 AM EDT
You'll probably get as many kinds of answers as people...

As for me, I look for looks and brains simultaneously. If the looks are lacking, I will favor brains, but only to a point. I can't love anyone I don't respect first. And stunner or not, if they exhibit too much 'typical female' behavior, that's it. I have a low tolerance for bullshit (child-like behavior or tantrums until they get what they want).
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 6:46:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GTLandser:
You'll probably get as many kinds of answers as people...

As for me, I look for looks and brains simultaneously. If the looks are lacking, I will favor brains, but only to a point. I can't love anyone I don't respect first. And stunner or not, if they exhibit too much 'typical female' behavior, that's it. I have a low tolerance for bullshit (child-like behavior or tantrums until they get what they want).



Took the words right off of my keyboard.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 6:50:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 6:50:53 AM EDT by Sukebe]
There was a time when the only criteria was a willingness to put out. As I matured a willingness to put out and good looks was what I looked for. Then I found that I had a hard time attracting good looking women. Then I realized that a willingness to put out was most important.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 6:50:16 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 6:51:44 AM EDT
agreed, my fiance is a knockout in my eyes, but I can hold a conversation with her and enjoy talking to her... unlike most gorgeous women these days it seems. When I met her, her beauty swung my eyes towards her, then getting to know her, I saw an immense amount of inner beauty and a good, down to earth person with a brain.

I'm happy
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 6:53:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By psyops4fun:
Dang it, guys... seems like everytime I log onto here there are consistently new threads from guys griping about (us) gals, as a gender. As if we were all general issue with same software to go with the hardware.

Admittedly, I don't have many common interests with most women... but some of my best friends are gals. Working in an all-male environment, I often find myself working as a "translator". And I am as "out of the loop" about a lot of frequent female behavior as a lot of you guys. It doesn't make sense to me either.

But I am wondering... how do you guys (in general) go about selecting mates?

Do you look for beauty first and brains second?

Nothin' wrong with beauty, mind you. But when one choose looks over brains... I mean you get predictable results. Unless a gal really, really takes care of herself, those 'looks' our going to go lard-tub blimpo virtually overnight, and here you (I speak in a figurative sense) come whining to your buddies about why gals are so eff'ed up.

OK, guys...'fess up: Do you end up with screwed up women because you get bedazzled by 'looks' and ignore the grey matter upstairs?




I tend to think I get screwed up women because women are screwed up.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 6:55:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 6:58:49 AM EDT by danpass]
Two cast iron rules about men:

We are visually motivated
Looks, appearance, the way you walk, the way you tilt your head, etc.. I for one, look for the hourglass figure, sharp facial features and great eyes. This draws us in and then we get hooked by character, personality, beliefs, etc..

We are headliners
Her- Honey where did you go?
Him- I went out.

As far as we are concerned that is more than enough information. We're not actually trying to hide anything its just that saying this:

"I went to the grocery store on 4th St and can you believe it, I almost ran over Mrs Smith's cat on the way over and could you imagine that on 8th st there was an ambulance ..."

male translation - blah, blah, blah, blah

Granted, there is a happy medium here, just that the interrogation routine (thats how it feels to us) gets old extremely fast
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 6:57:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Originally Posted By GTLandser:
You'll probably get as many kinds of answers as people...

As for me, I look for looks and brains simultaneously. If the looks are lacking, I will favor brains, but only to a point. I can't love anyone I don't respect first. And stunner or not, if they exhibit too much 'typical female' behavior, that's it. I have a low tolerance for bullshit (child-like behavior or tantrums until they get what they want).



Took the words right off of my keyboard.



here, too. i married a bright one. if all you get are looks, once they go, what have you got left?
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 6:58:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Paul:
Boys like the bewbies.

Men will be attracted to the female from a healthy looking body, face, hair, and eyes. But the person is what sells the package. I'll marry a trustworthy, loyal, helpfull, friendly, courteous, kind, obediant, cheerful, thrift, brave, clean, and reverant women with ears that stick out rather than a stunningly beautiful female that wasn't all those qualities (as long as she had nice bewbies ).



It sounds like what you really want is a transgender Boy Scout.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:00:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 7:02:58 AM EDT by KlubMarcus]
My wife is wonderful. She can cook, she's pretty, private school educated, has a day job, and let's me post on arfcom all day. Life is good. Ability to cook is the most important quality, hotness second, then brains.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:03:16 AM EDT
If they are not old, looks are #1.

If they are over 23, then a sturdy constitution and ability to complete chores is most important.

Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:03:23 AM EDT
Face/Eyes/Lips, Legs, Arms/Hands/Fingers, Rearend, Breasts, Stomach, Hair, Voice, Brains, Humor, Personality, Ambition, lack of baggage - - just for starters.

Does she have pride in herself? Her appearance, her career?

Does she keep her car clean and gas in the tank?

Does she know how to manage money, to save and invest rather than spend everything for clothing or other stuff, then wind-up broke between pay checks?

Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:05:27 AM EDT
Personality, and looks, I can handle a dumb one if she is a good person. Well not too god awful dumb.
Personality is MOST important.

If she wears glasses Watch The F out , Iam on it!!

Must be adventerous. I kinda like the liabrarian type. All lady in public, but a real fyn loving outgoing person away from teh books.

This explains why I am still single at 36.
I may find her I may not. If someone is gonna make me miserable it is going to be me , and me alone.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:13:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 9:46:22 AM EDT by FLAL1A]
Gotta have a nice face. Pretty is good, but so is "interesting." Taking good care of oneself covers a multitude of shortcomings. I saw women in Paris who were plain or even odd looking, but who took such good care of themselves that I salivated when I passed them on the street. I used to know a Lebanese woman with beautiful eyes and full lips - and a nose just like Danny Thomas's. However, she was so well-maintained that just being in the same room with her was like watching a porn flick or dancing a tango. She was electrifying.

Also, must have brains and a healthy interest in sex. Other than that, she can be (non-pathologically) fat, or built like a coatrack.

Face, brains, personal grooming, sex. All or nothing, and nothing else matters. Now, if you mean relationship or marriage, you'd have to add morals and compassion.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:16:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Paul:
Men will be attracted to the female from a healthy looking body, face, hair, and eyes. But the person is what sells the package. I'll marry a trustworthy, loyal, helpfull, friendly, courteous, kind, obediant, cheerful, thrift, brave, clean, and reverant women with ears that stick out rather than a stunningly beautiful female that wasn't all those qualities (as long as she had nice bewbies ).



Paul, I don't think they're letting girls in the Boy Scouts yet.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:25:21 AM EDT
Brains has to be better defined. Common sense I admire in a woman. Cunning or slyness or being a smartass coupled with greedy ambition on the other hand,was a deathblow to any possible relationship with me. Too often I see women claiming the latter characteristics as "brains". Lots of the guys here who "married a smart woman", ended up getting taken to the cleaners by that smart woman in a divorce. Those are probably the guys who bitch about women a lot and objectify them for beauty only.

My wife is fun to talk to,very honest and has good sense. That's a good part of why I married her.


Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:27:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 7:40:09 AM EDT by drjarhead]
1st: looks -- if you are fat and/or ugly you aren't going to get a second look except for losers. Women claim to want men to appreciate them for their brains but in all honesty most are not all that bright and let their emotions dictate their thoughts. That in mind, they expect to be able to sit on their fat ass, shoving food in their faces and that men are going to see beyond that and love them for the "person" they are. Well, I got news for you, that IS the person you are. A garbage disposing lump with self-esteem issues. Blecch.

2nd cut: personality

3rd: loyalty and trust

4th: Do you like them also, ie can you live with them day in, day out?

5th: good wife/mother material

6th: once you consider for a wife, how are they with financial matters?


Brains are important in that I would never pick a doofus but those things above are what make a keeper.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:28:05 AM EDT
Can't tell ya, all I know is I always find the psychos......


It's just my luck is all.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:33:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By photoman:
Can't tell ya, all I know is I always find the psychos......


It's just my luck is all.



Luck has nothing to do with it.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:33:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cheaptrickfan:
Face/Eyes/Lips, Legs, Arms/Hands/Fingers, Rearend, Breasts, Stomach, Hair, Voice, Brains, Humor, Personality, Ambition, lack of baggage - - just for starters.

Does she have pride in herself? Her appearance, her career?

Does she keep her car clean and gas in the tank?

Does she know how to manage money, to save and invest rather than spend everything for clothing or other stuff, then wind-up broke between pay checks?




+1
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:44:02 AM EDT
For me looks is a pass/fail sort of thing. a) Could she make Mister Happy happy? b) Does she present herself well enough to be seen in public with?

If the answer to those two is yes, then it is all personality. Nice, low maintenance, intelligent, honest, humor, etc....

She doesn't have to be a model, unless it is catch and release.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 8:16:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 8:17:26 AM EDT by psyops4fun]
I appreciate all the sincere answers, friends. Some of us gals are real "headliners" too ("I fixed the toilet. That's why the office stinks. It'll air out."), ad I have little patience for estrogenically-motivated drivel and hysteria.

I just got to thinking *shees*, Why do hese guys gripe about women so much... they must have some really fouled up gals in their lives.

Dunno, guys. I like the man who spoke about he wouldn't pair off with a gal he couldn't respect. Can't ya'll guys find some good farm girls or something? Yes, yes, I know All About the Female Mystique of Glamour. Gag a maggot. I mean, keep your hair nice and know when to shut up; that's what most guys want right? A lot of us gals want the same in a man.

Now, please carry on the discussion. I like what I'm hearing, respectfully and thoughtfully presented.

Now I am wondering what are the proportions of guys' motivation is instinctive-hormonal, and how much is culturally/ media imposed.

-- *not* an affirmative action beyotch
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 8:18:26 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 8:20:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 8:21:14 AM EDT
ummmmmm, Mine is all me
Hence the ".....36 and still single..."
I back down to noone when it comes to morals and beliefs!
Now, do you know a cute truck drivin' chick that likes guns and is cool?
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 8:34:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By psyops4fun:
I appreciate all the sincere answers, friends. Some of us gals are real "headliners" too ("I fixed the toilet. That's why the office stinks. It'll air out."), ad I have little patience for estrogenically-motivated drivel and hysteria.

I just got to thinking *shees*, Why do hese guys gripe about women so much... they must have some really fouled up gals in their lives.

Dunno, guys. I like the man who spoke about he wouldn't pair off with a gal he couldn't respect. Can't ya'll guys find some good farm girls or something? Yes, yes, I know All About the Female Mystique of Glamour. Gag a maggot. I mean, keep your hair nice and know when to shut up; that's what most guys want right? A lot of us gals want the same in a man.




Well that explains why losers and psychos end up with one another. Plenty of both in both sexes.


Now I am wondering what are the proportions of guys' motivation is instinctive-hormonal, and how much is culturally/ media imposed.



cultural? Not much though I would say there are plenty of nutless wonders raised by their mommies and thoroughly indoctrinated by the schools these days. Their women have no respect for them. Hell, alot of women marry them for the reason that they can be so easily dominated.

instinctive? A lot, initially

However, what you don't realize, and what you left out, was reasoning. A guy will let his intellectual reasoning overrule his instinctive/hormonal portion of his brain. Those who don't are the ones you read about here who end up divorced.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 8:35:52 AM EDT
not in any particular order (each has a different amount of points too):

Physical:
Face
Body
tits
ass

Mental:
intelligence
common sense
shared interests
not crazy

some can be overlooked if she exceeds in other categories
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 8:38:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cheaptrickfan:


Does she keep her car clean and gas in the tank?





I'm sorry...that one killed me.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 8:40:47 AM EDT
7 face
8 tits
7 gut (more points for less fat)

9 loyalty
6 common sense
7 personality

Each category has a max of ten points. She must score a minimum of 44 out of 60 or a 73%

Listed above it my ideal breakdown of the points.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 8:43:07 AM EDT
For any kind of serious relationship, I'm all about the head...(cough)...face and brains.

I'm not a tit-man, nor an ass-man, nor a leg-man, as all of those things are fleeting. Give me a girl with a cute face, a quick wit, and the ability to hold a conversation about more than makeup or gossip.

I never have understood how guys can go for the butter-faces.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 8:51:58 AM EDT
Guys are attracted to a girl that shows them attention, seems trustworthy, is not repusive, and has at least a veneer of normalcy/sanity.

+ points for having a friendly personality, a clean lifestyle, common sense and not fat or into mind games/ drama.

Unfortunately, one would have better luck hunting the Yetti or finding the Arc of the Covenent.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 8:57:14 AM EDT
Well, it depends on what the guy is selecting the girl for.


Fun = a woman with tatoos, multipule piercings, low cut jeans, cleavage, lots of makeup, alchohol consumption, stuff like that.

Relationship = a woman without tatoos, multipule piercings, low cut jeans, cleavage, lots of makeup, alchohol consumption, stuff like that.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 9:12:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 9:32:58 AM EDT by pathfinder74]

Originally Posted By psyops4fun:
Do you look for beauty first and brains second?



Is there any other way?

I've done the opposite... got to know a girl's "brain" before her "beauty". It's called online chat rooms. You meet a girl, you talk to her a lot, decide to meet after you have chatted so many times and spoken on the phone and created this image in your mind of how beautiful she'll be and then you meet... and she looks... well, they don't quite meet your expectations.

It's called natural selection. Evolution will eventually weed out the uglies... I'm sure of it.

ETA: On a side note... yes, I am very shallow.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 9:14:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pathfinder74:

Originally Posted By psyops4fun:
Do you look for beauty first and brains second?



Is there any other way?

I've done the opposite... got to know a girl's "brains" before her "beauty" first. It's called online chat rooms. You meet a girl, you talk to her a lot, decide to meet after you have chatted so many times and spoken on the phone and created this image in your mind of how beautiful she'll be and then you meet... and he looks... well, they don't quite meet your expectations.

It's called natural selection. Evolution will eventually weed out the uglies... I'm sure of it.




Stay outta gay chatrooms, silly!
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 9:19:21 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 9:26:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 9:26:54 AM EDT by DK-Prof]
A lot of women are insane.

A lot of men are stupid and all men are horny.



Throw the two together, and you're going to get a lot of poor choices, on both sides of the equation.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 9:29:08 AM EDT
tag for later reply
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 9:31:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheCynic:
Give me a girl with a cute face, a quick wit, and the ability to hold a conversation about more than makeup or gossip.



+1

My cousin tried for two years to get me to go on a date with my other cousin's sister-in-law. She finally wore me down, and I went. Should have gone earlier.

The GF's got that quick wit, coupled with a twisted sense of humor like my own, has no problems with the fact that I own firearms or carry, isn't high maintenance, and works with me to make sure that I stick to my nutritional requirements with regards to my weightlifting, and living by the Eat Right 4 Your Type principles.

Now I just gotta figure out what the hell she possibly sees in me!
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 9:31:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Troy:
I find it interesting that the women who post here usually start out with "don't lump us in with the few bad ones" and then follow that with "I don't get most women either; they're whacked in the head." The fact is that MOST women, in the US at least, ARE whacked. They have completely skewed priorities, let their emotions totally run their lives, have little sense of personal or financial responsibility, and their relationships are an utter wasteland. That's the sad truth, and no one wishes it were not true more than I do.

Yes, we KNOW there are exceptions; many of us will only consider a serious relationship when we find one. But many of the women here (perhaps Gabby aside) underestimate the percentage of women who are serious disasters.

Any guy can tell you that the "good ones", those "exceptions", get grabbed up quickly, so it's rare to find one who is single. Some of the greatest, most attractive (to me) women I've ever met were dating or married to guys I considered "good guys" that I would never do anything to undermine. Most of the remaining pool of women, you know, the ones that are "single", tend to be psycho or are carrying enough baggage to fill the Titanic.

Sure, there are plenty of crappy guys out there too. I see women with them all the time, and know that those women must have had some serious problems growing up to put up with them.

Anyway, to answer your question: the most attractive quality in a woman to me is ATTITUDE. I look for a woman who tends to see the good instead of the bad (without ignoring the fact that the bad exists), and who is generally happy in life. Bitchy, moody, or perpetually sad women are not attractive.

Brains and beauty round out the selection. A woman has to be able to discuss things other than shoe styles and who is banging who on Survivor. She has to have some opinions of her own, even if I don't always agree. She needs to be responsible to herself and for herself. And then, looks will play a part, but I'm much more attracted to a "plain" girl with a great attitude than a "hot" girl who is a bitch or is irresponsible and needy.

Finally, sex should be mentioned. Most men want sex, and plenty of it. And most men are willing to take some direction or work with their ladies to improve their sex life, if need be. But if a woman has no sex drive, or tries to use sex as a weapon, most men are going to be gone. If a woman has a sex-related issue, she's going to need to work it out before she can expect to have a healthy relationship. I've seen a lot of otherwise good relationships destroyed because the woman would withhold sex, and then guilt the guy to death because he wants some.

Don't take any of this stuff personally; if the shoe fits, wear it, and if not, ignore it. I'm just telling you how it is.

And given the above, when a man can't find a good woman, is it really surprising that they start playing the "Man-Ho" game? Men aren't going to go without some companionship...

-Troy



The man speaks the truth.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 9:32:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
A lot of women are insane.

A lot of men are stupid and all men are horny.



Throw the two together, and you're going to get a lot of poor choices, on both sides of the equation.



Hey, you could have been all verbose like Troy was. You are a professor and all. Instead you make an accurate summation of the issue at hand.

No cookie.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 9:37:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 9:43:18 AM EDT by recoiljunky]
Does she put out?
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 9:39:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mattimeo:

Originally Posted By Troy:
I find it interesting that the women who post here usually start out with "don't lump us in with the few bad ones" and then follow that with "I don't get most women either; they're whacked in the head." The fact is that MOST women, in the US at least, ARE whacked. They have completely skewed priorities, let their emotions totally run their lives, have little sense of personal or financial responsibility, and their relationships are an utter wasteland. That's the sad truth, and no one wishes it were not true more than I do.

Yes, we KNOW there are exceptions; many of us will only consider a serious relationship when we find one. But many of the women here (perhaps Gabby aside) underestimate the percentage of women who are serious disasters.

Any guy can tell you that the "good ones", those "exceptions", get grabbed up quickly, so it's rare to find one who is single. Some of the greatest, most attractive (to me) women I've ever met were dating or married to guys I considered "good guys" that I would never do anything to undermine. Most of the remaining pool of women, you know, the ones that are "single", tend to be psycho or are carrying enough baggage to fill the Titanic.

Sure, there are plenty of crappy guys out there too. I see women with them all the time, and know that those women must have had some serious problems growing up to put up with them.

Anyway, to answer your question: the most attractive quality in a woman to me is ATTITUDE. I look for a woman who tends to see the good instead of the bad (without ignoring the fact that the bad exists), and who is generally happy in life. Bitchy, moody, or perpetually sad women are not attractive.

Brains and beauty round out the selection. A woman has to be able to discuss things other than shoe styles and who is banging who on Survivor. She has to have some opinions of her own, even if I don't always agree. She needs to be responsible to herself and for herself. And then, looks will play a part, but I'm much more attracted to a "plain" girl with a great attitude than a "hot" girl who is a bitch or is irresponsible and needy.

Finally, sex should be mentioned. Most men want sex, and plenty of it. And most men are willing to take some direction or work with their ladies to improve their sex life, if need be. But if a woman has no sex drive, or tries to use sex as a weapon, most men are going to be gone. If a woman has a sex-related issue, she's going to need to work it out before she can expect to have a healthy relationship. I've seen a lot of otherwise good relationships destroyed because the woman would withhold sex, and then guilt the guy to death because he wants some.

Don't take any of this stuff personally; if the shoe fits, wear it, and if not, ignore it. I'm just telling you how it is.

And given the above, when a man can't find a good woman, is it really surprising that they start playing the "Man-Ho" game? Men aren't going to go without some companionship...

-Troy



The man speaks the truth.



Eh...Unless you can prove that this behavior is genetic and solely based upon the XX chromosome and life in America combo, it has no basis in fact.
In my life, I've met alot of whacked women. I've also met alot of whacked men. The problem is, the ones who are whacked usually snag an un-whacked and convert him/her to whacked-ness.

I know that sounds silly, but it's true.

I WILL say that when I run into a whcked female, I hate her more than I do a whacked male: it's because of her that the rest of us females have to work twice as hard.
YMMV

Link Posted: 1/31/2006 9:53:15 AM EDT
meh, hard work is good for ya.


TXL
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 9:55:52 AM EDT
Wellp... I for one am definitely *not* underestimating the number of estrogen-intoxicated drama queen slobs out there. I mean I teach yoga at an all-female health spa three classes a week, and dang, I can't wait to get back to the guys in the corporate office because those gals are so *bizarre*.

I mean, how to do you politely tell someone you plain do not CARE about non-functional things, grandchildren or Oprah? I told my business partner, "I am around women exactly three hours per week, I get paid to order them around, and then the door doesn't hit me on the hindquarters."

I would say perhaps at most twenty percent of gals nowadays make suitable life partners for right-thinking guys, and the percentage gets lower as the ages decend, thanks to modern public school brainwashing. (But there probably is a lot higher percentage good for what I shall euphemisticly call the "catch and release" experience). The percentage would likewise go up as the ages get older, as we tend to be more conservative and self-reliant with age... even the "mushy" ones.

Yes, I can see that just by the percentages that a LOT of guys who want all the *ahem* benefits of reliable female companionship end up stuck with something gross and whacked out like a bad reprise of Days of Our Lives.

Sad but true... I see how so many guys here end up with very valid horror stories.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 9:57:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 9:58:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 9:58:47 AM EDT by mattimeo]

Originally Posted By PlaymoreMinds:

Eh...Unless you can prove that this behavior is genetic and solely based upon the XX chromosome and life in America combo, it has no basis in fact.
In my life, I've met alot of whacked women. I've also met alot of whacked men. The problem is, the ones who are whacked usually snag an un-whacked and convert him/her to whacked-ness.

I know that sounds silly, but it's true.

I WILL say that when I run into a whcked female, I hate her more than I do a whacked male: it's because of her that the rest of us females have to work twice as hard.
YMMV




I need not prove anything, actually.

But I take your meaning. Besides. I seem to see you as the type that has a built-in aversion to the psycho bitches that Troy and I have met up with. It's one thing to be 'whacked' as you put it. Quite another to be...out of touch, as it were.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 10:02:54 AM EDT
Ahhh.. lets see. Being in my early 20s.. I'll give this one a shot.


You know the chicks that walk around, with so much cleavage showing that would make any guy drool all over himself? The ones that wore tight pants that you could see their curves very easily? The ones that if they battered an eyelash at you.. you'd have to resist popping a nut in your pants? Yup.. those are the oens that I used to go after. But... as the old saying goes "No matter how good they look, someone out there is tired of putting up with their shit." Yup, that would be me. When you have to take two asprin after talking to a girl, then you know you're chasing the wrong kind.

With regards to physical appearance;

Bottom line, decent looking plain jane. I hate to use the number system but... 7.5s - 8.5s. I don't date fat chicks (I consider it a lack of self-respect/self esteem), I keep myself in shape because its healthy and it raises my self-esteem.. I would expect the same of my g/f. Call me shallow, I don't care. I am not a boob man.. stomachs do me in. I also don't date anorexic chicks.. thats just disgusting.

With regards to personality;

This is where it all comes into play.

Needs to be down to earth, and has a good level of self-respect/self esteem about themselves. Understands that shit happens, you learn from it and you move on. You don't let it control your life, you are the one that controls your life. This really comes into play with regards to emotional baggage.

Has a good grasp on their emotions. (women can do this.. surprisingly enough)

Is a genuinely nice person. Takes interest in other people, not self-centered etc... loves to give more than they take (as do I). Must be willing to communicate problems....

With regards to sex;

Understands that sex is a important part of any relationship. Not just for making kids, but showing eachother's love for one another. Men have to understand that women need emotional commitment, and women need to understand that men need physical. Any side that holds back sex by using it as a power play option, has serious, serious issues.


AHhh, to find such a person.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 10:07:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Troy:
My point is: if you look at the pool of SINGLE women, 70% or more of them are psycho. You may not see it that way, because many of those women are good at hiding it, so that you wouldn't notice it in casual conversation. And, not being a guy, you aren't likely to try to "get to know her" like we would. If you did, you might find that there are a lot of women who LOOK like they are normal, responsible people on the surface, but when you start talking to them about REAL issues, you quickly learn that they are batshit insane. And full of denial.
-Troy



That caught my eye?

Real issues? Morals etc.?
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 10:12:25 AM EDT
It depends on what I am looking for at the time, If I am looking for a quick romp in the bedroom, and nothing more, then I am going for looks,


If I want something serious, I look for a balance of the two.



My problem is that the only that really hurts, is not the quick roll in the hay girl. It is the second one the one that really breaks your heart. That is why we resent women because believe it or not guys are not impervious to hurt.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 10:15:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SigSaurP228:
That is why we resent women because believe it or not guys are not impervious to hurt.



Yup.
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