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Posted: 1/27/2006 7:40:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/27/2006 8:23:06 PM EDT by LANCEMAN]
Every male in my family has been in the military going back almost a century. I feel like both of my deceased grandfathers (both were in WWII, one a Marine in Okinawa the other in the Army in Europe) would be disgusted with the way America is heading. They were gruff and didn't take shit off anybody till the day they died. They were real Americans to me, not this pussified population we have to apologize for day after day. I am pretty much fed up with where we are going and dread the day we finally arrive there, since one day we will all be declared safe and subject to our government's care. I am sad right now because no matter what political party "wins" or whatever we are going down a road that will only lead to less liberty and more supervision. Just had to rant for a bit, whatever
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 7:44:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 7:46:53 PM EDT
I am pretty sure they would be/are.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 7:47:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Paul:
Hell I'm not as old as your fine grandfather and there are times where I'm discusted with Americans.



Very disgusted!
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 7:48:43 PM EDT
We laid The Major (my papa - enlisted in the Corps in ~1937 and left active duty as a captain and veteran of Bougainville and Guadalcanal) to rest on December 31st 2000 at sunset. He was one of the last people laid to rest in the old millenium and for this I am glad. He would not have had much to say about the current one.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 7:50:41 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 7:54:58 PM EDT
Yes...


I also think that MLK would think the same about Black America today...
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 7:56:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 8:06:37 PM EDT
Yes, they would


One of my grandfather's was a farmer - he could build a house or barn, shoe a horse, fix a tractor, shoot what needed shooting, you name it....... and run for County Clerk and do a bang up job on that.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 8:19:56 PM EDT
My grandfather is still around was in italy and north africa and yes he is quite disgruntled
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 8:24:22 PM EDT
Americans of the '40s were more united as a people than the Americans of today. While some of the social changes were certainly good, the self-hatred and intolerance (PC) is unhealthy for this nation. In response to the question, the folks of the '40s would be very disgusted with us as a people.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 8:51:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Roland_O_Gilead:
We laid The Major (my papa - enlisted in the Corps in ~1937 and left active duty as a captain and veteran of Bougainville and Guadalcanal) to rest on December 31st 2000 at sunset. He was one of the last people laid to rest in the old millenium and for this I am glad. He would not have had much to say about the current one.



Yeah my papa went to rest in 1998, got a bad leg in Okinawa and they sent him to Paris Island as a DI, he told me these damn modern politicians were the enemy one time and I understand what he meant now
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 8:58:35 PM EDT
Those still alive would have to be disgusted. Those who are dead are spinning in their graves.

Count on it.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 9:00:29 PM EDT
Do you think your 1940s era father/grandfather would be sad and disgusted with our country today

Considering that it's them and their children that put us in this situation, I'd say they have only themselves to blame.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 9:02:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HK_Shooter_03:
Yes...


I also think that MLK would think the same about Black America today...







Couldnt have said it better
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 9:04:15 PM EDT
More people had character back then, but alot of their ideas are the reason we are in such a mess today.

Most of the socialism this country has adopted was born in the 1880s-1890s, matured in the 1920s, and triumphed in the 1930s and 1940s.


Link Posted: 1/27/2006 9:10:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
More people had character back then, but alot of their ideas are the reason we are in such a mess today.

Most of the socialism this country has adopted was born in the 1880s-1890s, matured in the 1920s, and triumphed in the 1930s and 1940s.





Seems like it was a (I'm guessing decently successful?) temporary fix to get everyone back on their feet. I wasn't alive then, and like I'm seriously going to take a history book as fact these days.

Unfortunately perfectly able people are so freaking useless these days that they use it as a hand-out rather than a hand up.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 9:15:54 PM EDT
My grandfather was a veteran of ww2. He served in the pacific theatre with the US Navy.He was a milkman and a mailman after the war. When he retired he decided to relax and take up tobacco farming and did that until just a few years ago. I saw him on thanksigiving last year when he was 83. Drove about three hours to get to our house and I'm sure was puffing away on a smoke the whole way. A few weeks after Thanksgiving he had a massive stroke and lived for about a month after that.It was sad but I was glad to know he was active and lived life his way right up until the very end. He never cared about what the other guy was doing and didn't spend alot of time hating the youth of America.When my cousin and I were teenagers and Grandad was in his mid 60's or so he took us on a car trip to Florida. He was about the coolest old guy I've ever known. Now that I made you all love him with his uncompromising way of life,service to our country and all around full blooded america-lovingness don't hate on him when I tell you that if Satan ran for president and hitler was his running mate and they were Democrats he would vote for them.Seriously, If Jesus Christ and the virgin mary were the republican candidates he wouldn't vote for them and the man was catholic!
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 9:18:15 PM EDT
You know, I don't think he is. I could ask him.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 9:28:05 PM EDT
Yah, seems there's a couple of gravity anomolies around the northeast of the US...

Both my grandfathers, spinning in their graves.

I know at least one of 'em started gettin disgusted around the 60's. The other died before I could do much more than say hi and hug him

One was a UDT instructor in WWII. The other was in Company I, 120th Infantry, 30th Division (Old Hickory).

The UDT instructor was the pissed off one...they never let him go and blow shit up. He was stuck training people. He never really got over that, according to Mom (his daughter)...

Link Posted: 1/27/2006 9:35:58 PM EDT
My grandfathers would probably be disgusted with certain aspects of modern America (and even more so with those of other countries), but also very proud of the fact that not only have we survived some of the worst wars the world has ever seen, but have gone on to become the world's sole superpower.

They would probably be awed by the level of professionalism displayed by today's typical American soldier, and pleased at the amount of good we're doing in countries like Afghanistan and Iraq. Being common-sense convervatives at heart, they would also be encouraged by the "Republican revolution" that has occurred in our national and state governments over the past several decades.

In the broadest terms, they'd probably be pleased with how America turned out - especially if you leave California and parts of the eastern seaboard out of the picture.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 9:41:47 PM EDT
My granpa a vet passed away in the mid 80's and he said it was going down the shitter
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