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Posted: 1/27/2006 5:05:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/27/2006 5:06:29 PM EDT by Frostbite]
I thought you all might be able to appreciate this photo. I took it on Tuesday at the site of the Cabanatuan WWII POW/slave labor camp in the Philippines. Chuck went through it (as did my grandfather), and is pictured here, finding the name of a friend on the memorial to those that died in the camp. Chuck is an extraordinary man. After having survived two slave labor camps, he was on the hell ship Oryoku Maru when it sank in Subic Bay. Many prisoners swam to shore, but Chuck made the trip over and over, saving those that were not able to make it on their own. He only stopped when he was too exhausted to continue. Many people owe their lives to this man.






Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:08:46 PM EDT
These guys truly were the Greatest Generation.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:10:28 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:14:07 PM EDT
we owe an unpayable debt to these men
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:40:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mjohn3006:
nullbits.foxxz.net/albums/Icons/Honor2.jpg



excellent.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:43:26 PM EDT
WW2?
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:45:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By inferno715:
WW2?



Yup. Did you see the movie The Great Raid? This was the camp in the movie.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:45:52 PM EDT
bump..............



'cause that's the best picture I've seen all day
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:46:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By inferno715:
WW2?



Yes.

If the story holds water, Chuck Norris ain't got shit on that man. A true Hero.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:47:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Frostbite:

Originally Posted By inferno715:
WW2?



Yup. Did you see the movie The Great Raid? This was the camp in the movie.



Havn't seen that yet. I'll have to check it out since my grandfather fought in the Pacific in 1943-44.

In all honesty I thought this was another Chuck Norris thread.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:49:09 PM EDT
Excellent post. Thank him for all of us.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:50:55 PM EDT
All honorable men; truly, the greatest generation.

Sadly, those who were witness to this era are dying off and history is being rewritten by those that want to change it to something it was not.

We must not forget; record their memories. This piece of history will eventually disappear.

Thank your Grandfather for me for his service to our great country!
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:53:07 PM EDT
My great uncle was in a POW camp for 18 years. He died a couple of years ago and no one knows the details because he NEVER talked about it. We know that 40-something men went in, two survived. He was 6'1" and 90 pounds when he got out.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:57:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By inferno715:

Originally Posted By Frostbite:

Originally Posted By inferno715:
WW2?



Yup. Did you see the movie The Great Raid? This was the camp in the movie.



Havn't seen that yet. I'll have to check it out since my grandfather fought in the Pacific in 1943-44.

In all honesty I thought this was another Chuck Norris thread.



i thought the same for a second there, I was looking to see Chuck Norris' name photoshopped in on the wall or something
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:58:43 PM EDT
My grandfather died a week ago today at age 81. He was severly wounded during the Normandy invasion and suffered pain his whole life. He did not complain, and he had eternal admiration for the flag he was wounded under. Men like Chuck and my grandfather were truly great men, and deserve to be remembered.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:01:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KBaker:
These guys truly were the Greatest Generation.



Your 100% correct. So what happened?
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:04:02 PM EDT
This kind of post, unlike the "I just bought some ammo at Wal-Mart... duh huh huh" post, is why I keep coming back here every night.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:08:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/27/2006 6:08:34 PM EDT by Colt_SBR]
Chuck. Thank you for your service and sacrifice.

_________________



Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:09:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gunchyck:
My great uncle was in a POW camp for 18 years. He died a couple of years ago and no one knows the details because he NEVER talked about it. We know that 40-something men went in, two survived. He was 6'1" and 90 pounds when he got out.



How did it happen he was in so long? What War and Camp?
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:10:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cjklekar:
Thank your Grandfather for me for his service to our great country!



Unfortunately, my grandfather is listed on The Tablets of the Missing, at the Manila American Cemetery. He died aboard the Japanese hell ship Arisan Maru, torpedoed on Oct 24, 1944. Of the 1,800 prisoners on board, eight survived. It remains the largest loss of American life of any military sinking in history.


Tablets of the missing:




Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:11:03 PM EDT
I suddenly feel very small.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:13:59 PM EDT
My Grandfather passed away last year at 93. He served in Australia / New Zealand during WW2. He was a great man with a real sense of purpose in life. God Bless yours and mine! They were willing to risk it all and they did. Thank you grandfather and tell him how much you love him. I really miss my Pop-Pop. I think he had a greater appreciation for his life because of what he went through.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:15:32 PM EDT
Now that man is a role model.



Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:24:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mjohn3006:
nullbits.foxxz.net/albums/Icons/Honor2.jpg



That's awesome.

Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:40:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Frostbite:
I thought you all might be able to appreciate this photo. I took it on Tuesday at the site of the Cabanatuan WWII POW/slave labor camp in the Philippines. Chuck went through it (as did my grandfather), and is pictured here, finding the name of a friend on the memorial to those that died in the camp. Chuck is an extraordinary man. After having survived two slave labor camps, he was on the hell ship Oryoku Maru when it sank in Subic Bay. Many prisoners swam to shore, but Chuck made the trip over and over, saving those that were not able to make it on their own. He only stopped when he was too exhausted to continue. Many people owe their lives to this man.






static.flickr.com/42/91964900_791dc23aa6_o.jpg



And all he got was a bronze star?
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:46:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:50:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/27/2006 6:53:09 PM EDT by Screechjet1]
I read about Lance Sijan the other night...and I read about Chuck today.

When I put on my uniform I have tears of pride and loss...pride at being lucky enough to wear the same uniform, that of a United States fighting man, and loss at the price to paid, by some such men...a lifetime of pain, death by starvation and torture, fear, abandonment.

Chuck was lucky to survive; the tablets filled with names in small font are testimony the multitudes that did not.

"Where do we get such men?"
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 9:15:46 PM EDT
Duke,

Part of the reason I was there was for the dedication of the Hell Ships Memorial on Subic Bay. The memorial is in the picture below, and the Oryoku Maru lies about 500 yards to the left of the photo. A group of us went out in a boat, had a small ceremony, and laid wreaths in the water above the ship.


Link Posted: 1/28/2006 5:27:04 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:17:17 AM EDT
Update : I just found out that Chuck passed away on Jan 30th. It is a bit of a surprise to me, as he was looking very good when I was with him a week earlier. It is sad to think that another great WWII veteran and hero to me is gone.



Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:35:47 AM EDT
R.I.P. Chuck,

you can go home now.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:48:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CAR-10:

Originally Posted By Frostbite:
I thought you all might be able to appreciate this photo. I took it on Tuesday at the site of the Cabanatuan WWII POW/slave labor camp in the Philippines. Chuck went through it (as did my grandfather), and is pictured here, finding the name of a friend on the memorial to those that died in the camp. Chuck is an extraordinary man. After having survived two slave labor camps, he was on the hell ship Oryoku Maru when it sank in Subic Bay. Many prisoners swam to shore, but Chuck made the trip over and over, saving those that were not able to make it on their own. He only stopped when he was too exhausted to continue. Many people owe their lives to this man.






static.flickr.com/42/91964900_791dc23aa6_o.jpg



And all he got was a bronze star?





In those days, and amognst those men, "uncommon valor" was "common." I suspect you had to do more in those day to earn a medal. That being the case, his Bronze Star was a BIG deal.

And absolutely none of them were seeking fame or glory.

No disrespect indended to our present generation of heros.

Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:49:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mjohn3006:
nullbits.foxxz.net/albums/Icons/Honor2.jpg




Finally an honest to God good reason for owning photoshop.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:57:11 AM EDT
He is a true red blooded American hero.

Not like those dumb sports numb nuts that people now days call "hero" .

Link Posted: 2/2/2006 11:02:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Screechjet1:
I read about Lance Sijan the other night...and I read about Chuck today.

When I put on my uniform I have tears of pride and loss...pride at being lucky enough to wear the same uniform, that of a United States fighting man, and loss at the price to paid, by some such men...a lifetime of pain, death by starvation and torture, fear, abandonment.

Chuck was lucky to survive; the tablets filled with names in small font are testimony the multitudes that did not.

"Where do we get such men?"



Lance was a bad MoFo, I asked a POW about him and he seemed a little bumbed that Capt S. did what he did, I asked why and hew said he didnt return with the rest of us.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 11:02:41 AM EDT
his generation truly was the greatest generation.

today's Americans harbor a sense of entitlement

my grandfather served in WWII, lived through the depression, and never felt like anyone owed him anything.

what happened to us?
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