Quoted: I just don't understand how he was elected President.

bama, at the time he was a honest face southerner, farmer to boot, and credibility was much needed.  crazy, probably.  likeable, yes.  good president?  naa.  good ex president? certainly, but some one commented that's like being a good ex wife.  

he really hurt soybean farmers.  as much as I talk bad about him, I ask how could a smarmy guy like nixon get elected?  

Quoted: I fucking hate liberals.  Reality challenged liars the lot of them.

Amen, brother. A-friggin'-MEN!

Quoted: I used to think Carter was a complete idiot. However, after reading about him and even reading his stuff, I came to appreciate and respect the man. He is extremely intelligent, and anyone who states otherwise is very uninformed. I don't agree with all of his policies or his methods, but I will never make the mistake of thinking he was/is an idiot. He didn't really even want to be president.

Carter is the reason Iran is the way it is today. He was told not to let the Shah, whose overthrow he agreed to, into the U.S. He did and the SHTF.

He gave the Canal away

He fought against helping the Contras.

He went to Venezuela and said the last election was honest (it was stolen) because he stood at one voting place. This gave Chavez his legitimacy.

He says the U.S. should support Hamas and give aid now that they have won.

He is scared of a rabbit swimming in a pond.

He gave the "Malaise Speech" in which he said the U.S. had reached it's peak and now was going into decline.

The man is an idiot and has done more to hurt the U.S. in foreign policy than any man alive.

Quoted: Quoted: Because people in the red marked states voted for him... uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/GENERAL/pe1976.png uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/datagraph.php?year=1976&fips=0&f=1 Wish they didn't switch the colors on us. Go figure California voted for Ford and Texas voted for Carter.

Yeah I always figured red - the color of communism - was a much more appropriate color for the Dems..

Quoted: Different era back then. Notice all the southern states voting D. The south spent the 80's and 90's shifting to the R column, while CA and the far west shifted blue. Carter was elected because of Watergate, and even then he didn't win by much. Reagan very nearly carried the Republican nominaton. It would have been fun to have him as president during Iran.

I highly doubt Iran would have happened, and I bet the cold war would have been over 10 years earlier...

Quoted: Quoted: Wow, I'm no big fan of Jimmy Carter but I don't hate him.. . ETA:  Oh, and, from reading your post, you're a DU troll.  Go the fuck away.

Wow, As usual when someone gives an opinion that is different someone wants to take their toys and go home. I also have no idea what a DU Troll is and even if I did would refuse to fuck off and go away. I'd hate to have to add that while Jimmy Carter was serving aboard Nuclear Submarines W was tooting coke and avoiding Vietnam while he ( supposedly) was serving in the Texas ANG. I've voted Dem. and Repub. as well as independant. I support gun rights as well as equal rights and above all human rights. I'm also for having my own mind and making my own decisions. I find it fishy that no one cares much about domestic spying or the fact that the current administrations cronies are all getting rich while our soldiers go over seas to pay for it. I mean think about it. The president was an oil man. The VP ran a huge company that was basically big oil,quit before he became VP and then his "ex" company gets a no-bid contract worth billions of dollars.Oh and by the way were basically fighting a war for oil. You can call it a "war on terror" which is pretty stupid. Usually wars are started with winnable aims. The war on terror is like the war on drugs. It's a war on a "thing" an "ideal".Sure we can kill a bunch of baddies that deserve it but we will never win. To win the war on terrorism by definition means we will have to eliminate terorism entirely. Not likely to happen.I don't really know why were fussing over a guy who lost to Reagan in 1980 but whatever.By the way I think Reagan was a good president. I'm waiting with baited breath to see what a DU Troll is.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Wow, I'm no big fan of Jimmy Carter but I don't hate him.. . ETA:  Oh, and, from reading your post, you're a DU troll.  Go the fuck away. Wow, As usual when someone gives an opinion that is different someone wants to take their toys and go home. I also have no idea what a DU Troll is and even if I did would refuse to fuck off and go away. I'd hate to have to add that while Jimmy Carter was serving aboard Nuclear Submarines W was tooting coke and avoiding Vietnam while he ( supposedly) was serving in the Texas ANG. I've voted Dem. and Repub. as well as independant. I support gun rights as well as equal rights and above all human rights. I'm also for having my own mind and making my own decisions. I find it fishy that no one cares much about domestic spying or the fact that the current administrations cronies are all getting rich while our soldiers go over seas to pay for it. I mean think about it. The president was an oil man. The VP ran a huge company that was basically big oil,quit before he became VP and then his "ex" company gets a no-bid contract worth billions of dollars.Oh and by the way were basically fighting a war for oil. You can call it a "war on terror" which is pretty stupid. Usually wars are started with winnable aims. The war on terror is like the war on drugs. It's a war on a "thing" an "ideal".Sure we can kill a bunch of baddies that deserve it but we will never win. To win the war on terrorism by definition means we will have to eliminate terorism entirely. Not likely to happen.I don't really know why were fussing over a guy who lost to Reagan in 1980 but whatever.By the way I think Reagan was a good president. I'm waiting with baited breath to see what a DU Troll is.

What's wrong with fighting a war for oil. What moves your car, Water? What's half of your computer made out of? Piss?
This world runs on oil, all oil is bought and sold in US Dollars. What do you think happens if everyone starts using Euro's to buy and sell oil, like Sadam and Iran tried to do?
The Dollar devalues, your little savings account turns to shit, and we go into a huge depression.
Oil is the only thing propping up the Dollar, it's not backed by gold or anything else.

You better kneel down and pray to whatever higher power you believe in that we keep fighting for oil. You better thank  your higher power that we have a President smart enough to understand the imporance of oil more than you do.

Ok no response as to what a DU Troll is just one saying it's OK to fight a war for oil(which I have no problem with just say it up front with out all the bullshit and I'm on board), and I should thank god and the president for being smarter than me(which I sincerely doubt).One thing is for certain is that if we are soley dependant on foreign oil to prop up our economy ,which is at least partly true,we need to get off our asses and fix it. The answer is also not to invade and take over oil rich countries. After all we blew up Saddam for the same thing. We need to reduce our dependance on the very thing that supports our enemies and makes them not only rich but powerful in world politics. Will we get off foreign oil in my lifetime? I plan on being around a while but no. I hope for the sake of my children we do. Nothing scares me worse than a rich powerful Iran,stocked with nukes that hates America and knowing that we put alot of the money for it in their pockets. At least they hate Israel worse and those guys can take care of themselves!!

Jimmie "peanut boy" was an intellegent MORON. He understood nothing about economics, the Russians and their motives, standing up for your allies, running an Government, or, quite frankly, anything remotely concerning being a president.

He reminded me of Mr. Rogers on valium. He was and is a socialist of the highest order, and I believe he actually respected communism and what it stood for. I think he still shows his lack of undestanding about it from what I can see of him and Castro.

Nobody who actually had half a brain and lived thru 20% interest rates, gas lines, inflation that staggers the mind nowadays, and all the BS enviromental regs could POSSIBLY belive he was a smart man. He has shown his true colors for years now and it is telling how much of a socialist retard he has shown himself to be.

I always tried to think of him as a OK guy but I can't any longer. He is a complete asswipe and a turd of the highest order. He was a complete coward as a president and was paralyzed by indecision and the lack of foward thinking. He was only good at giving away strategic properties [panama canal] and defenses. He could not negotiate with a fresh turd in a diaper and come out ahead.

Thank GOD, Ronald Reagan was the antithisis of this foolish weak socialist. It was like day and night when he came into office exuding his love of Country and a strength of character "peanut head" could only dream of.

Quoted: Ok no response as to what a DU Troll is just one saying it's OK to fight a war for oil(which I have no problem with just say it up front with out all the bullshit and I'm on board), and I should thank god and the president for being smarter than me(which I sincerely doubt).One thing is for certain is that if we are soley dependant on foreign oil to prop up our economy ,which is at least partly true,we need to get off our asses and fix it. The answer is also not to invade and take over oil rich countries. After all we blew up Saddam for the same thing. We need to reduce our dependance on the very thing that supports our enemies and makes them not only rich but powerful in world politics. Will we get off foreign oil in my lifetime? I plan on being around a while but no. I hope for the sake of my children we do. Nothing scares me worse than a rich powerful Iran,stocked with nukes that hates America and knowing that we put alot of the money for it in their pockets. At least they hate Israel worse and those guys can take care of themselves!!

A DU Troll is someone that is a member of this website
www.democraticunderground.com
I think you will be very happy there, they will agree with almost everything you have posted here

And, I was an adult during his abortion of a presidency, he was a disgrace then, he is WORSE now

Look, he is going to get his own day.............
Jimmy Carter deserves a day, too (not in my opinion)
www.wtvm.com/Global/story.asp?S=4417033
Georgia lawmakers are proposing a resolution making February 6th Ronald Reagan Day, in honor of the 40th U.S. President. But according to Plains residents, there's just one small problem with that.

Former President Jimmy Carter, the only President from Georgia, doesn't even have his own day.

We got some strange reactions we got when residents found out that the 39th President of the United States, and their hometown hero, doesn't have his own day in the State of Georgia.

Jimmy Carter was born and raised in Plains. From his old high school, to City Hall, everyone we spoke to had good things to say about the former President.

"The Pharjac Grille is a local landmark that President Carter himself frequents often. While we weren't lucky enough to catch him there when we visited, the owners say the former President deserves his own day in the state of Georgia."

"Jimmy Carter brought the world to Georgia," says Pharis Short, owner of the Pharjac Grill. She knows President Carter well.

"It is logical that if we're gonna honor a President, Jimmy Carter ought to be the first one we honor," she told us.

Most everyone we spoke to agreed that President Reagan deserves to be honored, and many said it would be a good idea to honor both men, but all the residents seemed to agree on one thing--if the Georgia Legislature chooses to recognize the man who defeated President Carter before they honor him, he'll handle it like a gentleman.

Lizzie Watts, who supervises the Jimmy Carter Historical Site, says that despite their political differences, the two men had a great deal of respect for one another.

"He is very much a gentleman, and he respected President Reagan," Watts said. " I do think behind this occasion there will probably be a Jimmy Carter referendum, but I can't ever see him say anything that's not positive about President Reagan."

And it's possible that President Jimmy Carter may soon see some recognition. House Democrats say they will sponsor a bill in coming weeks to honor him on his birthday, October 1st.

Quoted: His statements this morning about continuing to fund the Palestinians even though Hamas has taken power via democratic vote, is based upon his opinions about the humanitarian needs of the Palestinian people.... a la... we were providing aid to the Palestinian people, Hamas took power by a democratic process, and cutting financial aid would only pour fuel onto an already burning fire. I don't necessarily agree with his assessments, but like you respectfully disagreed with me, I can continue to disagree with him, but also respect his opinions.

Yup, being small and taking your ball and going home won't make us one point with anyone in the ME, even Israel.  We at least need to let them speak as the majority party before we can assess our next steps.  The statement by Rice and others that Hamas must reject violence is fair but what they actually do and say from now on is much more important.  Will they join forces and voices with the Iranians?  Possibly the people of Palestine rejected Fatah as corrupt and the only viable alternative was Hamas, which has yet to show it's mettle as peaceful leaders.  Decades with Arafat and no real solutions or progress......!  it's a shock to see Hamas win but not that much when you consider the past.  

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just don't understand how he was elected President. After Nixon's resignation and Ford's pardon, the Dems could have run Mickey Mouse and still been elected. This is so sad and yet so true. MIKE.

People were still plenty pissed off about the vietnam war at that time.  

Quoted: I'd hate to have to add that while Jimmy Carter was serving aboard Nuclear Submarines W was tooting coke and avoiding Vietnam while he ( supposedly) was serving in the Texas ANG.

Way more people die every year in training accidents involving fixed wing military aviation than nuke subs.  W did something very few do when he got his wings and flew single engined jets.  I used to fly RC with a late F102 pilot that had to eject one night over NC. Messed up his back for life. Training accident.

rj

Quoted: [.  We at least need to let them speak as the majority party before we can assess our next steps.  .

Does this make things clearer ?:

Hamas Leader Reaffirms Stance on Israel

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By GREG MYRE
Published: January 28, 2006
GAZA, Jan. 27 — Militants from Fatah and Hamas capped a tense and emotional day with violent clashes on Friday, while a Hamas leader said the group had no intention of recognizing Israel's right to exist or changing its charter, which calls for Israel's destruction.

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"Why are we going to recognize Israel?" said the leader, Mahmoud Zahar. "Is Israel going to recognize the right of return of Palestinian refugees? Is Israel going to recognize Palestine with Jerusalem as its capital?"

In the southern Gaza town of Khan Yunis, Hamas supporters clashed with Fatah gunmen and the Palestinian security forces in two separate incidents, leaving six people wounded, according to witnesses and medical workers.

Throughout Gaza, thousands of Hamas supporters wearing green baseball caps and waving green flags took part in noisy but peaceful rallies after midday prayers, celebrating their faction's resounding victory in parliamentary elections on Wednesday. Leaders of the group said they were ready to meet with the Palestinian leader, Mahmoud Abbas, for talks on forming a new government.

In contrast, several hundred protesters from Mr. Abbas's own Fatah party marched in the street outside his house in Gaza City, firing automatic rifles into the air and chanting, "Go away Abu Mazen, go away Abu Mazen," using the common name for Mr. Abbas.

The Palestinian leader was in the West Bank at the time, but the unrest highlighted the frictions building between the old guard of Fatah and the young Hamas militants, who may be even less tolerant of Mr. Abbas's leadership in the wake of the group's stinging election defeat.

The gunmen also marched into the courtyard of the nearby parliament building and set several cars ablaze.

Muhammad Dahlan, one of the best-known Fatah leaders of the younger generation and a former security chief, hurried to the scene and urged the men to disperse.

Mr. Abbas was elected president of the Palestinian Authority a year ago, and his post was not affected by the election. However, he will be greatly weakened politically with Hamas in charge of the government.

With 76 of the 132 seats in the parliament, Hamas has a solid majority on its own and does not need any partners in a new government. But the group says it wants to work with other factions, including Fatah.

"It will not be just our government," Mr. Zahar said Friday as he emerged from midday prayers at the mosque across the street from his Gaza City home. "We will work with Fatah and independents and other factions to make it a national government."

Hamas should be able to assemble a government in two to three weeks, Mr. Zahar said.

But several leaders in Fatah, which has dominated Palestinian political life for four decades, have said they prefer to rebuild their party in opposition and let Hamas deal with the often humbling realities of governance.

Until now, Hamas has refused to take part in the Palestinian government because that government emerged from the 1993 Oslo accords with Israel, which Hamas rejected.

Hamas still does not recognize Israel and says it will not change its charter calling for Israel's destruction.

But Mr. Zahar and other leaders say that Hamas will not rule out limited contacts with Israel under certain circumstances.

"If Israel has anything to bring to the Palestinian people, we will consider this," he said. "But we are not going to give anything for free."

Israel's acting prime minister, Ehud Olmert, and other senior government officials say Israel will not deal with Hamas. Israel, along with the United States and the European Union, consider Hamas to be a terrorist organization.

As Hamas prepares to form a government, the new cabinet and the new legislature will face great challenges in simply getting members together in the same place. In the election on Wednesday, 31 candidates were imprisoned, according to the Central Elections Commission. Of those, 15 won seats, The Jerusalem Post reported Friday, more than 10 percent of the new parliament. Israel has said that the election will not bring any change in their status or any reduction in their sentences.

Traveling to Ramallah through Israel could pose problems for legislators wanted by Israeli security officials. The Palestinians also have a parliament building in Gaza City, however, and because Israeli troops left Gaza last summer, Palestinians in Gaza face no restrictions moving inside the territory.

In the past few years, the Palestinian parliament has held numerous sessions with a video conference connecting West Bank lawmakers in Ramallah and the Gaza legislators in Gaza City.

The new Palestinian cabinet could face a similar problem. Most senior Hamas leaders are in Gaza, though the cabinet is sure to have ministers from the West Bank as well. Israel has generally allowed Palestinian cabinet ministers to travel between Gaza and the West Bank. But Israel appears unlikely to do the same with government ministers from Hamas.

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We did'nt have the internet to find out the truth..and we did not have moonbat detectors like today.

The road to hell is paved with Carter's good intentions.

Quoted: Wow, As usual when someone gives an opinion that is different someone wants to take their toys and go home. I also have no idea what a DU Troll is and even if I did would refuse to fuck off and go away. I'd hate to have to add that while Jimmy Carter was serving aboard Nuclear Submarines W was tooting coke and avoiding Vietnam while he ( supposedly) was serving in the Texas ANG.

You claim not to know what DU is, yet you spout the Mickey Moore bullshit lies pretty well.  You're a troll.  Just admit it.  You'll feel better about yourself.  WE will still know you're worthless, but at least you'll be able to tell yourself you're not a liar.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just don't understand how he was elected President. After Nixon's resignation and Ford's pardon, the Dems could have run Mickey Mouse and still been elected. This is so sad and yet so true. MIKE. People were still plenty pissed off about the vietnam war at that time.

Ironic they blamed the Republicans for it, since it was Johnson's abortion.

It was the mid 70s.
People were experimenting with a lot of drugs.
and listening to disco.
Bell bottoms, Satin jackets and Leisure Suits
Macreme.
Nixon took ex-liberal democrat Spiro Agnew as his running mate/VP (after a VP named Spiro)
VP Spiro then pleads no contest to tax fraud and resigns
People thought little Mikey from the life commercials died from Pop Rocks and Coke
Watergate
John frigging Travolta
Did I mention disco?
Some idiot made $$$ selling pet ROCKS for $3.95 each.
Electing Carter.

Make better sense now?

Quoted: Quoted: I used to think Carter was a complete idiot. However, after reading about him and even reading his stuff, I came to appreciate and respect the man. He is extremely intelligent, and anyone who states otherwise is very uninformed. I don't agree with all of his policies or his methods, but I will never make the mistake of thinking he was/is an idiot. He didn't really even want to be president. Carter may have been the worst prseident this country has had. He is certainly one of the worst ex-presidents of our country. During his admisistration the economy sufferred,  we had highest gas pricing ever, we had Iran hostage crisis, we had Ramsey Clark as Attorney General, we had Billy Carter lobbist for Libia, etc, etc, etc. Since leaving office he has continued to bad mouth our country.

Well, not to be overly obvious, but some of those were pretty big problems when Bush the First (meaning Daddy Bush) was President.

I have no idea what the Democratic Underground is and since I am not a democrat I will not spend anytime on that site. I wouldn't call myself a republican either even though for a time I was registered as one. It is easy to vilify people who's policies you don't agree with. I try to see all sides of an argument and though I don't believe in a lot of what the current president is doing I for the most part support him.I say for the most part because I believe as an American it is our duty to support our president as it is the office and will carry on after the man leaves.I could never be called a staunch liberal or conservative as my voting record swings to both sides. If believing in human rights and womens rights or the rights of children make me liberal so be it.I think failing to exploit the talents of or protecting the interests of these portions of our society is stupid. I also firmly believe in the second amendment, harsh prison terms and the death penalty and am against gay marriage. Do these conservative leanings make me a conservative. Not to many of you I'm sure. I think it's something of a cheap shot when strictly conservative voters want to destroy Carter(or any democrat). What are they supposed to do? The're conservative so they have to hate liberals or get kicked out of the club.So I am not a DU Troll and am not a democrat or a republican. I'm more of a humanist and vote with my brain. This could be bad news but at least I vote for both sides. This most likely gives both sides a reason to hate me but oh well!

Quoted: I have no idea what the Democratic Underground is and since I am not a democrat I will not spend anytime on that site.

Sure bud.  Whatever you say.

Quoted: Quoted: You claim not to know what DU is, yet you spout the Mickey Moore bullshit lies pretty well.  You're a troll.  Just admit it.  You'll feel better about yourself.  WE will still know you're worthless, but at least you'll be able to tell yourself you're not a liar.

I guess Mickey Moore is Michael? Moore the bowling for columbine guy? Have not seen Farenheit 911 but did like Roger and me which I think was made in the late 80's. It's about the Flint Michigan auto plant closings. I'm unaware of any lies I have told.Am I spouting lies like "there are WMD's in Iraq and we will find them".I think not.I am not a troll merely explaining my way of thinking much as you are.The exception is I am making a rational argument whereas your argument is We know you're worthless,your a liar admit it,you're a troll.I really like the "admit your a liar and a troll ,you'll feel better.  It's nice to know you can make such insightful judgements based on 3 or 4 postings on the internet.Judging someones worth and honesty by what they think on politics and how it coincides with you're own is highly illogical. Maybe when I get up to 15000 posts or so I wont be a lying worthles troll anymore

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You claim not to know what DU is, yet you spout the Mickey Moore bullshit lies pretty well.  You're a troll.  Just admit it.  You'll feel better about yourself.  WE will still know you're worthless, but at least you'll be able to tell yourself you're not a liar. I guess Mickey Moore is Michael? Moore the bowling for columbine guy? Have not seen Farenheit 911 but did like Roger and me which I think was made in the late 80's. It's about the Flint Michigan auto plant closings. I'm unaware of any lies I have told.Am I spouting lies like "there are WMD's in Iraq and we will find them".I think not.I am not a troll merely explaining my way of thinking much as you are.The exception is I am making a rational argument whereas your argument is We know you're worthless,your a liar admit it,you're a troll.I really like the "admit your a liar and a troll ,you'll feel better.  It's nice to know you can make such insightful judgements based on 3 or 4 postings on the internet.Judging someones worth and honesty by what they think on politics and how it coincides with you're own is highly illogical. Maybe when I get up to 15000 posts or so I wont be a lying worthles troll anymore

We have seen a lot of DU Trolls here, you sound like one of them(or one of those "Libertarians")

If you are really interested in discussing anything you might try using shorter posts with only
one or two "facts" in them so everyone will have a chance to "discuss" the individual "points"

WE have to constantly defend our point of view, don't think YOU are being singled out............

I don't remember the name of the President,but he was wounded five times in the Civil War(was shot out from under his horse five times)  was it Hayes?

Anyway after his term he grew very sick from the title,and said that haveing served as president!


That if any man he knew were to gain this office,he could hardly give him a congratulations !!!

Seems to say enough about this job!!


I think Jimmie served as a NUKE sub commander!!  He was weak as a man ,and weaker as a leader!

Bob

Quoted: Wow, I'm no big fan of Jimmy Carter....he served honorably as a nuclear sub commander....

BzzzzzzTTTTT  WRONG!!!
Carter was hand picked by Rickover to be one of the leaders of the new Nuclear Navy.
Carter's daddy kicked the bucket and Jimmha went home and never came back.
Carter kicked his sea-daddy square in the nuts.
Carter never served as a submarine commander.
He was and is a pathetic loser.

My high school history teacher (Mrs Williams...YUM), in California no less, told us that Carter was the wrong person to have been elected President and that Regan should have been nominated by the Republican party.

Quoted: Judging someones worth and honesty by what they think on politics and how it coincides with you're own is highly illogical.

Yet so often it turns out to be 100% correct.

Maybe when I get up to 15000 posts or so I wont be a lying worthles troll anymore

True.  Then you'd just be worthless.

carter has no backbone at all. He was and is a spineless useless wimp.

When the Embassy was over run and our people took hostage, carter would not stand up to iran.

Iran knew carter would not do a thing, and reveled in it.

Finally towards the end of his term in office he tried to "rescue" the hostages, but that attempt failed. That one attempt at a military resuce was carters way of trying to save face, and hopefully get re-elected.

Iran rejoiced more, still parading our people in the news, reminding the world what a spineless leader we had.

FINALLY, relief REAGAN was elected to office, and iran started to fear the USA all of a sudden, they knew that Reagan would kick thier collective asses all over that fucking desert.

and on Reagans inauguration , as soon as he was sworn into office, the hostages were released. I still think Reagan should have went in and kicked thier asses anyways.

One of Carter's most idiotic moves was the Soviet grain embargo.  In response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Carter forbid the export and sale of grain to the USSR.  The Soviets needed the grain because their agriculture was in particularly bad shape.  (It was never in good shape.)

Though it cost the Soviets more, they bought from other sources, including the Canadians.  Because certain grains have short growing seasons, other nations, especially in South America, stepped up to the plate and dramatically increased their production.

In the short term, it devastated American Agriculture.  After the removal of the embargo, American grain producers found that they had more competition than ever before.  Prices for grain remained historically low.  Agriculture in this country has never recovered.  The effect on small town America, especially in the Great Plains, was tragic.

Much of the fast decline of these small towns can be traced back to the Carter years.  Without the money that the local farmers were making on the world market, there was much less to spend in town.  Because of unit banking laws, popular with Democrats, small town banks closed.  All in all, Carter drove a stake into the heart of the very people who saw this peanut farmer as a man worth voting for.

Carter's plan to punish the Russians only inconvenienced them in the short run.  Because he listened to leftist economists like Keynes instead of people who undertook the very basic laws of supply and demand, many millions of good Americans suffered deeply.

I used to think that Carter was at least a moral man even though he was politically stupid.  That changed during the 2000 election.  The dems were having some sort of get together with Robin Williams and Whoopy telling the most vulgar and insulting jokes about W.  There was Jimmy and Rosyln laughing their heads off at the sort of stuff that would have made any Jewish fisherman cringe.

Jimmy's God is Jimmy Carter.  Like the vast majority of Liberals, he creates his own right or wrong simply in his head.  He may have the mental ability to remember things, but he lacks wisdom and a moral compass.

For that, he is worthy of no respect whatsoever.

You can sum up this whole thread with one word; commie.  The man is and has been a commie for many years.  His hatred of capitalism and America is all you need to know.  Plus, he's married to a Zombie and his kids were born sans brains and human faces.

Quoted: Quoted: [.  We at least need to let them speak as the majority party before we can assess our next steps.  .   Does this make things clearer ?:

Somewhat, but it's not written as an official sworn government.  I still say this is not so bad in that the world will see Hamas for what they are.  They were a NGO like a big KKK.  Give em some time and a little rope.  We might get lucky and get a civil war going.

www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq60-14.htm

Brief look at Carter's Naval career.  Went to Naval Academy in 43.  Studied engineering.  Eventually qualified for command of sub but due to family death asked to leave service to take on farm responsibilities.  Retired as Lt.