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Posted: 1/18/2006 11:27:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 11:31:52 AM EDT by Stainless]
Not in terms of "collecting" guns... just to say you have them, and then keeping them as safe queens.... but what guns should you have have in terms of "using" guns?

An answer could be something like this....

"Well... you need a bolt action in something medium, 30-06, 308. Then a 22 for plinking, Then a handgun, then a semi auto rifle."
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:28:42 AM EDT
Anything 120mm and smaller.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:29:36 AM EDT
All of them.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:31:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mcgredo:
All of them.



+1
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:32:38 AM EDT
There are a few schools of thought on this...

You SHOULD have a handgun (take your pick), a shotgun (same), and a rifle (AR ).

Though once you get into it, your handgun choices open up and you think "I started off with a 9mm, now I want a .45" so you wind up with one or four of those. Then you get an AR but you want another one to hang other stuff on, and then you pick up a .308 because you like the idea of having a longer range caliber...

And you wind up with a safe full of toys.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:33:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Stainless:
Not in terms of "collecting" guns... just to say you have them, and then keeping them as safe queens.... but what guns should you have have in terms of "using" guns?



I need a 30 30 winchester lever action. with an EOtech. for deer.

<­BR>

and for SHTF, since its IDIOT proof (put dot on looter, squeeze, operate lever, put dot on looter, squuze........)
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:34:43 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:35:54 AM EDT
I will offer some catagories and then my suggestions for each. I base this partly on my personal tastes, partly on experience, and partly on the advice of gunsmiths and military armourers I have known.

Shotgun:

Remington 870 12g.: I am told it is phenominally dependable and extremely strong.

Revolver:

So difficult to beat a S&W Model 10 M&P. Has the same reputation as the 870.

Semi auto pistol: I'm old fashioned so I go for the classics.

Belgian-made Hi Power
1911A1
Makarov (great pocket pistol. Don't get the one with target sights)

.22 rifle

Marlin 39 (again, like the 870 in dependability and durability).

Center fire rifle:

AK-type in .308
AK-type in 7.62

When it comes to "needed" weapons, the huge problem (if it can be called a problem) is that there are many millions to choose from.

Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:35:58 AM EDT
.38 and a .22 is all you need..........



I will have to say an AR. This is AR15.com ya know!
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:37:06 AM EDT
Remington 870 or a Mossberg 500 home defense and millions of other applications...
A .22LR rifle, these are the ultimate in cheap plinking.
A .45ACP pistol, based on the venerable Model 1911just my $ .02
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:37:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:
Pretty vague. It depends on your preferences. Aside from personal defense (where preference debate could run a 40 page thread), there are numerous areas of sport shooting & hunting that require different types of arms.

It's like asking, "What clothes should you own?"

+1 situational. Are you a hunter? What do you hunt? Are you a collector? Are you a target shooter? Are you an end-of-the-world type person? Every one of these people will have different wants and needs.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:39:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

It's like asking, "What clothes should you own?"



good point.

What I am REALLY trying to do... is justify the purchase of MORE firearms....

"well... the guys thing we all should have a remington 700 in 308.... and... so.... i think i should get one."
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:40:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By macman37:
There are a few schools of thought on this...

You SHOULD have a handgun (take your pick), a shotgun (same), and a rifle (AR ).

Though once you get into it, your handgun choices open up and you think "I started off with a 9mm, now I want a .45" so you wind up with one or four of those. Then you get an AR but you want another one to hang other stuff on, and then you pick up a .308 because you like the idea of having a longer range caliber...

And you wind up with a safe full of toys.

+1. I went backwards on your hangun timeline though, I had the .45 first and decided I like the 9mm better, but now I need to get another .45
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:42:01 AM EDT
87
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:46:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
87
"87 is the answer to ALL STUPID QUESTIONS! -markm



so. you thought my question was st00pid?
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:46:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 52brandon:

Originally Posted By macman37:
There are a few schools of thought on this...

You SHOULD have a handgun (take your pick), a shotgun (same), and a rifle (AR ).

Though once you get into it, your handgun choices open up and you think "I started off with a 9mm, now I want a .45" so you wind up with one or four of those. Then you get an AR but you want another one to hang other stuff on, and then you pick up a .308 because you like the idea of having a longer range caliber...

And you wind up with a safe full of toys.

+1. I went backwards on your hangun timeline though, I had the .45 first and decided I like the 9mm better, but now I need to get another .45



Oh, that was just a point I was trying to make. I wouldn't likely have 9mm in my house if it weren't for my wife. I'm a .45 guy.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:46:56 AM EDT
only the guns, that make noise


alot of it

Gary
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:58:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Stainless:

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

It's like asking, "What clothes should you own?"



good point.

What I am REALLY trying to do... is justify the purchase of MORE firearms....

"



This is the real problem, you don't need to justify buying more guns
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:08:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 12:08:57 PM EDT by happycynic]
Question is too broad. For self-defense I would recommend the following as a minimum:

(1) Centerfire Rifle, Military/Police pattern semi-automatic, 5.56, 7.62, or 30.06.
(2) Shotgun, 20 guage or larger, pump or semi-auto.
(3) Handgun, semi-auto, in 9mm .40 S&W or .45 ACP.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:10:12 PM EDT
as many as you can have
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:15:52 PM EDT
Firearms:
1. an AR15
2. a quality 1911 (I prefer my Kimber Gold Match)
3. a Baretta 92
4. a Remington 700 bolt action rifle in 30.06 or .308
5. a Mossberg 500, 590 or Remington 870 12 gague

Magazines:
20 mags for the AR, 10 mags for the handguns.

Ammo:
5,000 rounds of 5.56 of your choic
2,000 rounds of .45 JHP
2,000 rounds of 9mm
250 rouns of 30.06 or .308
500 assorted 12 gague

That is a good start.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:16:04 PM EDT
Well lets see.
I have the Mossy 500 so I need a 870
I have the 1911 but I really need more
I have the revolvers but could use more
I have .22 for plinking but need more
I have the AR need many more in different configuations
I have the AK but need more
A nice bolt gun in 30-06 just for the options it offers in bullits and hunting
AH hell I need them all
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:18:16 PM EDT

Every household in the United States should own a Garand and a 1911.

Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:23:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Q3131A:
Firearms:
1. an AR15
2. a quality 1911 (I prefer my Kimber Gold Match)
3. a Baretta 92
4. a Remington 700 bolt action rifle in 30.06 or .308
5. a Mossberg 500, 590 or Remington 870 12 gague

Magazines:
20 mags for the AR, 10 mags for the handguns.

Ammo:
5,000 rounds of 5.56 of your choic
2,000 rounds of .45 JHP
2,000 rounds of 9mm
250 rouns of 30.06 or .308
500 assorted 12 gague

That is a good start.



That would be a very polite society.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:30:12 PM EDT
What you should have depends on what you plan to do wih them. A person who never shoots skeet probably doesn't need a gun suited for that. A person who never shoots black powder will probably never need one of those. It all depends on what YOU like to do with your guns.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:37:59 PM EDT
Both...

cause nobody has said it yet.
~Dg84
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:51:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mcgredo:
All of them.




Different guns are suited to different tasks.
No one can predict the future, so you never know which tasks you'll need to perform.

Therefore having "all of them" is the only acceptable option.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:56:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 12:58:56 PM EDT by BuckeyeRifleman]
Self Defense pistol
-something like a glock 19 fits the bill perfectly. 15 rounds and small enough to conceal. Sigs are great to. Ofcourse you can always go with the classic 1911

Self Defense Carbine
-AR15 is prefered, and a 16in barrel offers the most versatility. AK's work, but your trading vastly better ergonomics for a slight increase in reliability IMO.

Shotgun
-Remington 870, as reliable as death and taxes, and can go from hunting deer, to hunting foul, to hunting terrorists and BG's with a few extra barrels and a magazine tube. If I HAD to only have one gun, this would be it. Mossy's are good too but 870's are a bit more sturdy

22 rifle
-we cant all spend 100 dollers for a case of ammo for practice, so a good 22 rifle makes sense. Plus they are relitively quiet and great from a survivalist piont of view for getting dinner(squirrels rabits). I like 10/22's cause you can build it into anything, but ive heard good things about remington 597's.

These last two could be one, but ill separate them.

Main battle rifle
-FAL. M14, AR10, or M1 Garand all fit the bill. I really like FAL's due to cheap mags and the fact it uses 308. If you arent willing to fork out 700-1000 dollers you can get a pretty good Garand for 400 bucks through the CMP.

Centerfire hunting rifle
-In a pinch the above rifle could perform this duty, but its far from perfecton, mainly due to accuracy and what type of optics you would generally use. A good Rem 700, win 70, ruger 77, savage, tikka, ect all work wonders. 30-06 or 308 are best due to versitility and ammo availibility. A good 3-9X scope is the most versital. It can pretty much take down anything in North America and when the SHTF it can double as a long range percision rifle.

edited spelling

Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:57:35 PM EDT
If nothing else, you should have an AR.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 1:03:23 PM EDT
A reliable, accurate rifle, a reliable, accurate defensive shotgun and at least TWO reliable, accurate hanguns are required PLUS lots of ammo for all the above.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 2:20:11 PM EDT
A pistol that is small enough to conceal and big enough to fight with-GLOCK 19

A bolt action .30 cal-Remington 700 in .308

A semi auto fighting carbine 16" AR

A semi auto .22 rifle 10/22
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 2:22:57 PM EDT
Reliable ones, and ones that the owner is very familiar with.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 3:40:54 PM EDT
A 50bmg rifle for long range.
A 308 rifle for medium range
A 5.56mm rifle for short to medium range.
A 9mm sub-machingun for close range.
A 12 gauge shotgun for close range.
A 9mm handgun for very close range.

With the exception of the shotgun all your ammo needs can be met by the government should the need arise. This should cover everything you need to do.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 3:43:47 PM EDT
all of them.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 3:44:53 PM EDT
2 AR's

A carbine and a 20" rifle

AKM

A 12g 1100/870

.270

2 handguns

Link Posted: 1/18/2006 3:52:03 PM EDT
"Should"? Hmmm... I'd say ideally you "should" have every one you desire.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 3:58:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Q3131A:
Firearms:
1. an AR15
2. a quality 1911 (I prefer my Kimber Gold Match)
3. a Baretta 92
4. a Remington 700 bolt action rifle in 30.06 or .308
5. a Mossberg 500, 590 or Remington 870 12 gague

Magazines:
20 mags for the AR, 10 mags for the handguns.

Ammo:
5,000 rounds of 5.56 of your choic
2,000 rounds of .45 JHP
2,000 rounds of 9mm
250 rouns of 30.06 or .308
500 assorted 12 gague

That is a good start.



I have all of those mentioned plus just a few more (my kimber is a ultra CPD). This is a excellent list of guns to have. If I had to give up a few I would keep those listed. Might give up the Baretta for a d/a 357 revolver...Good list
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:08:00 PM EDT
I should have more AR's & AK's

I should have a precision .308

I should have a Barrett 50

I should have a few FAL's
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:13:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 4:24:04 PM EDT by LonePathfinder]
2 HLDR (Homeland Defense Rifle) (AR, AK, whatever) that are identical to each other
2 Pistols that are identical to each other


That would cover 99.99% of scenarios not counting hunting. Two is one. Use your guns, and that gun will be siezed as evidence (your fancy ACOG, Surefire and all...keep them identically equipped). This also allows you to rotate your weapons while shooting, so you can prolong their lifespan.

People will say you need a .22 I don't think so. Unless you are really really really poor, its not hard to shoot your primaries.

A more rounded, but small arsenal for (ONE shooter)
2 HLDR
3 Pistols (one to keep in the car or you bug out bag)
1 Accurized 308 or heavier gun (semi, bolt your call) to be used for long range sniping, hunting, a semi could double as a heavy HLDR etc
1 No bling HLDR for trunk/truck gun
1 22 Pistol
1 22 Carbine You can find some 22 long guns that share magazines with pistols, browning comes to mind
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:14:51 PM EDT
I should have every gun that makes King Daley ball up into a fetal position and suck his thumb.

I have an excellent start!!!
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:29:17 PM EDT
Everybody needs a pistol/rifle combo that shoots a 6mm plastic BB.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:24:37 PM EDT
I like pie......

<­BR>





And my FAL, my Remington 870 Tac, and my USP45 compact. (in stainless, Its pretty, like me!
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:29:37 PM EDT
Well, everyone needs at least 4 guns. 1 .308 or larger for big game/long range. 1 AR/AK type for medium/short work. One pistol [glock] (9mm or .45), and one rem 870.

Enough ammo for each to be able to run them for a while without restock.
Reloading dies might just be a good idea too.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:30:35 PM EDT
Eh if it really came down to a major purge and i had to get by with bare minmum
out of my stuff

1 Bushmaster 16" flatop w ACOG and M4-2000 supprssor
10/22 T with tac lite barrel and suppressor
P22
Rem 870 is a 20in rifle site remchoke gun ( I have tons of tubes pattermaster , rifled etc)
Glock 19
Rem 700 308 scout rifle

that would be it
I could probably lose the rem 700 as the AR or the 870 would work in a pinch for a deer gun
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:32:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:
Pretty vague. It depends on your preferences. Aside from personal defense (where preference debate could run a 40 page thread), there are numerous areas of sport shooting & hunting that require different types of arms.

It's like asking, "What clothes should you own?"




The Metrosexual Board is on DU over---------------------> there...
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 7:00:17 PM EDT
Firearms:
1. Colt LE6920
2. HK USPC 9mm
3. Remington 870
4. Marlin bolt action 22 rifle
5. 308 bolt action rifle still needed

Good supply of magazine and ammo for all the above.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 7:10:58 PM EDT
Artillery
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 7:17:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stainless:
Not in terms of "collecting" guns... just to say you have them, and then keeping them as safe queens.... but what guns should you have have in terms of "using" guns?

An answer could be something like this....

"Well... you need a bolt action in something medium, 30-06, 308. Then a 22 for plinking, Then a handgun, then a semi auto rifle."


Home defense: 9mm semi-automatic pistol
Hunting: 30-06 bolt-action rifle
Sightseeing vacation in Tikrit, Iraq: M240G
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 7:18:21 PM EDT
Standard Ar15,com gun collection:

AR15s 16" and 20"

Remington 700

Winchester 30/30 or Marlin 30/30

Ruger 10/22

AK47 or SKS

Remington 870 or Mossberg 500

FAL or M1A...or a Cetme if the other two are too expensive

1911

Glock or if you hate Glock a Springfield XD

Revolver

.22 handgun
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 7:27:27 PM EDT
1911A1
1873 45LC Peacemaker
12 GA 870
20 GA 870
M700 270 or 06
10-22
Model 19 .357 Magnum Combat Masterpiece
AR15 or M-16
.223 bolt gun (M700, M77 or M70)
lots more but that is a start.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 7:34:24 PM EDT
so i am guessing i need to getta remington 700.

is one required for admittance to Arizonia???
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