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Posted: 1/9/2006 12:14:50 PM EDT
And they put Gaston on the line lol just kidding.

Anyway, those of you that have read this thread have the back story and know why I called. For those of you who don't know and don't wanna read that much here's the cliff's notes.
I asserted in a Glock kB thread that the reason you hear a lot more about Glock issues is that there are so many of them in circulation in the U.S. Another guy claims that he thinks it's not true and asserts that there are more Ruger P-Series pistols in circulation, citing ATF figures of about 500k. The ATF doesn't publish info on imported pistols so I had a lot of trouble getting the answer. So I said that today I was gonna call Glock and I did. Before I tell you the answer, let me tell you that Glocks webmaster sucks in fact, when I asked the rep the number before he told me, he said "don't pay attention to the website, it's way off" I was concerned that I was going to have to admit defeat.

So he asks, US or worldwide circulation? I say "just the U.S." and he says, I dunno exactly but roughly....

<­BR>





....."4 and a half million"

4.5 million Glock pistols in this country. So it's all backed up. If you want, call Glock's Smyrna office and verify 1-770-432-1202
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:25:32 PM EDT
and only one of them is mine still need 20,21,26/27,30
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:26:34 PM EDT
I need a 27 and a 21. Oh yeah, and an 18
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:27:40 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:29:10 PM EDT
I only have a Model 23
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:29:46 PM EDT
Wow, all those Glocks and the "hatas" keep posting the same old KaBoom pic.
I hope they do the math and post a few more pics.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:30:03 PM EDT
Cause it's something I thought people might want to see that hadn't been interested in that specific thread, it's got Glock and Kaboom in the title, so a lot of people stay away just to keep out of the BS.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:30:40 PM EDT
That is a whole lot of explosions waiting to happen.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:31:49 PM EDT
had 22 and traded it in for a XD

never looked back
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:31:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 12:33:07 PM EDT by Dusty_C]
Makes me want to see some 1911 sales figures but I figure that'd be just about impossible to compile.


But These glocks have all sold in the last 20 or so years. That many 1911's selling ever is plausible, but NOT in the last 20 years.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:32:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
so why start a new thread instaed of keeping this argument in the same one





Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:33:21 PM EDT
If this is supposed to make me like Glocks, it was not successful.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:44:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cruze5:
had 22XD 45LE and traded it in for aXDG22

never looked back



There I fixed it for ya

I now Own a G22, and on the way is a G20 AND a G17, now I just need a G30 or G21
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:49:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:
Makes me want to see some 1911 sales figures but I figure that'd be just about impossible to compile.


But These glocks have all sold in the last 20 or so years. That many 1911's selling ever is plausible, but NOT in the last 20 years.



Thats because PDs are not professional enought to own .45 cal 1911s. Just .40 Glocks.

<­BR>

Da­mn, I just had to say it. JMB himself was sitting on my shoulder and whispering evil thoughts into my ear.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:51:54 PM EDT
cool, I own 1/900,000th of the Glock market!
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:53:09 PM EDT
If 4.5 million G's all Kaboomed at once, would the effects be similar to a nuclear detonation?
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:55:16 PM EDT
I know where 3 of them are sitting.

Danny
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:55:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:56:45 PM EDT
what do you think the most popular model is 17? 22?
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:57:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
If this is supposed to make me like Glocks, it was not successful.




+1

In other news, GM has sold more cars than any other manufacturer.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:58:15 PM EDT
Lets see if I have this right then. Glock out sells the Ruger P-series 8 to1.

In addition, Glocks out Kabooms the Ruger P-series 100 to 1.

OK, I got it now.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:58:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
so why start a new thread instaed of keeping this argument in the same one





just to piss you off
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:59:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Voldermortist:

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
so why start a new thread instaed of keeping this argument in the same one





just to piss you off



sounds like a good enough reason to me
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:00:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By GUNGUY1911:
If 4.5 million G's all Kaboomed at once, would the effects be similar to a nuclear detonation?



naaaa they are mostly 9mm. it would be closer to a firecracker



You mean .40's and .45's, right?
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:01:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 89grand:
Lets see if I have this right then. Glock out sells the Ruger P-series 8 to1.

In addition, Glocks out Kabooms the Ruger P-series 100 to 1.

OK, I got it now.



actually the problem is that the P series owners cant get their pistols to function reliably enough to actually get to that one in a million overcharged factory round, or they are not using crap police issue training reloads.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:03:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 1:03:55 PM EDT by Bama-Shooter]

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By 89grand:
Lets see if I have this right then. Glock out sells the Ruger P-series 8 to1.

In addition, Glocks out Kabooms the Ruger P-series 100 to 1.

OK, I got it now.



actually the problem is that the P series owners cant get their pistols to function reliably enough to actually get to that one in a million overcharged factory round, or they are not using crap police issue training reloads.



I have personally seen more P series go down than all other pistols combined.

ETA: and ammo had nothing to do with it. They were/are crap guns.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:04:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 1:05:26 PM EDT by wise_jake]

Originally Posted By fxntime:

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:
Makes me want to see some 1911 sales figures but I figure that'd be just about impossible to compile.

But These glocks have all sold in the last 20 or so years. That many 1911's selling ever is plausible, but NOT in the last 20 years.



Thats because PDs are not professional enought to own .45 cal 1911s. Just .40 Glocks.


Damn, I just had to say it. JMB himself was sitting on my shoulder and whispering evil thoughts into my ear.







ETA: Me, too. WWJMBD?
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:06:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By 89grand:
Lets see if I have this right then. Glock out sells the Ruger P-series 8 to1.

In addition, Glocks out Kabooms the Ruger P-series 100 to 1.

OK, I got it now.



actually the problem is that the P series owners cant get their pistols to function reliably enough to actually get to that one in a million overcharged factory round, or they are not using crap police issue training reloads.



That's odd. My Ruger P94 .40 is over 7 years old. Not a single malfunction of any kind ever...not one failure to feed, not one failure to eject. Ammo type makes no diiference either.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:07:16 PM EDT
people have no sense of humor
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:21:30 PM EDT
I've never had a problem with the glock I never had
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:26:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
If this is supposed to make me like Glocks, it was not successful.




+1

In other news, GM has sold more cars than any other manufacturer.


Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:36:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 1:36:36 PM EDT by HardShell]

Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:
cool, I own 1/900,000th of the Glock market!



1/562,500 here... clearly, I need more.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:39:01 PM EDT
Of course, a true hater would say that 4.4 million of them have gone kaboom and there's only 100k of them in circulation.


Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:42:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 1:43:15 PM EDT by ARDOC]

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:
I called Glock.





There is no way with that post count that you took enough time away from your computer to call Glock let alone anyone else.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:48:00 PM EDT
I like Glocks but how many 1911's have been made?
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:56:01 PM EDT
While you were at it why didn't you ask them about their Kaboom rate, why they didn't take care of owners who had Kabooms, what the causes were(esp with their .40s) and what they were doing to resolve the problem?
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 2:05:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:
Wow, all those Glocks and the "hatas" keep posting the same old KaBoom pic.
I hope they do the math and post a few more pics.



I saw a 27 lose an extractor due to the lack of support in the chamber, so I know that the kaboom is real in the .40 S&W chambered Glocks.

And I won't own one in .40 S&W for that reason.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 2:08:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
While you were at it why didn't you ask them about their Kaboom rate, why they didn't take care of owners who had Kabooms, what the causes were(esp with their .40s) and what they were doing to resolve the problem?

"98 out of 100 malfunctions were due to bad reloads and even though it states inside the owners manual and case, NOT TO USE RELOADS THAT IT VOIDS THE WARRANTY, they were fixed anyway."
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 2:10:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
If this is supposed to make me like Glocks, it was not successful.




+1

In other news, GM has sold more cars than any other manufacturer.



And GM makes a shitty product....
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 2:13:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 2:13:42 PM EDT by Dusty_C]
Thats more debatable than 1911 vs Glock
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 6:30:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By 89grand:
Lets see if I have this right then. Glock out sells the Ruger P-series 8 to1.

In addition, Glocks out Kabooms the Ruger P-series 100 to 1.

OK, I got it now.



actually the problem is that the P series owners cant get their pistols to function reliably enough to actually get to that one in a million overcharged factory round, or they are not using crap police issue training reloads.



I have personally seen more P series go down than all other pistols combined.

ETA: and ammo had nothing to do with it. They were/are crap guns.



Never have seen it happen, to mine or others, not once.

Crap guns? Not hardly.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 6:33:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 89grand:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By 89grand:
Lets see if I have this right then. Glock out sells the Ruger P-series 8 to1.

In addition, Glocks out Kabooms the Ruger P-series 100 to 1.

OK, I got it now.



actually the problem is that the P series owners cant get their pistols to function reliably enough to actually get to that one in a million overcharged factory round, or they are not using crap police issue training reloads.



That's odd. My Ruger P94 .40 is over 7 years old. Not a single malfunction of any kind ever...not one failure to feed, not one failure to eject. Ammo type makes no diiference either.



89grand, there are no facts involved with his statement, just gun snobbery.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 6:37:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 6:58:48 PM EDT by legalese77]
First of all...





and furthermore....





Lastly, my P89 has several thousand rounds through it, including gun range reloads with rippled cases

I jus dun like the ergonomics of Glocks.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 6:48:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By legalese77:

and furthermore....


tinypic.com/k0olkl.jpg





Thanks for the new wallpaper.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 6:57:06 PM EDT
I own 0.0000666667% of all Glocks!
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:07:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 7:16:29 PM EDT by Planerench]

Originally Posted By 89grand:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By 89grand:
Lets see if I have this right then. Glock out sells the Ruger P-series 8 to1.

In addition, Glocks out Kabooms the Ruger P-series 100 to 1.

OK, I got it now.



actually the problem is that the P series owners cant get their pistols to function reliably enough to actually get to that one in a million overcharged factory round, or they are not using crap police issue training reloads.



That's odd. My Ruger P94 .40 is over 7 years old. Not a single malfunction of any kind ever...not one failure to feed, not one failure to eject. Ammo type makes no diiference either.



Yeah, I own one (for almost 15 years) and know of more friends that have them.. many more than Glocks. I have never had a non-ammo FTF or a any FTE and the only problem I have ever heard of is a broken firing pin. Far and away more reliable and tough than Glock and no less ergonomic. Heavy as a brick though and I never did like the slide mounted safety/decocker. Glocks are good weapons but no magic wand.

Oh, BTW in before this thread tanks.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:19:52 PM EDT
I'll stick with my SIG. If I wanted a plastic gun I would play airsoft.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:36:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gmtmaster:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
If this is supposed to make me like Glocks, it was not successful.




+1

In other news, GM has sold more cars than any other manufacturer.



And GM makes a shitty product....



except for saturns. gm hasn't f-ed up that line.

would i buy another glock 9mm. hell no.

would I buy a glock 40 or .357?

No.

Would I buy a Glock 10mm.

HELL YES! gonna be my next pistol!

Do i believe glock 40s ka boom on occasion? I'm sure they do. Is it due to the glock design? maybe.
I just don't know. I'm not exactly a fan of .40. I just can't see the point in it. would i feel un or under armed with a .40. HELL NO! there are alot of people who like glock .40s and I know of atleast one guy who bagged a baddie with one. the gun and he did their jobs.

but you know what if it works for you and you shoot it well and like it and carry it I'm not going to knock it. I used to be in the "that gun/caliber sucks you should use this".

well let me tell you standing there being robbed and being unarmed is no fucking fun. BTDT this summer. I'd have sold my soul for an rg 32 revolver that night.

so quit bashing other peoples gun choices its pointless.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:43:29 PM EDT
Anyone care to stand in front of my GLOCK and bet whether or not it will kaboom?

Personally I don't care for the Ruger pistols but I wouldn't want to stand in front of one either.

I kind of like that there are a lot of people that don't care for the GLOCKS. That way I can keep buying used ones for cheap! I've owned eight GLOCKS, carried an issued one for seven years, have sold five to people who simply couldn't live without them and have fired well over 50K rounds through them. I've never had a problem, not one. If someone can say the same about their Ruger pistol and they like it, by all means carry it. It's all about what works for the individual.

Too much hatin' going on around here. Just shoot whutcha brung and be happy about it.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:45:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By darth_pavoris:
...so quit bashing other peoples gun choices its pointless.



heck yeah!

Raven owner's unite!


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