Quoted: I don't think that 'fleeing to South Africa' is going to prove all that wise a decision, either. What are these white folks doing any longer in southern Africa? Do they really, really NOT understand what is likely going to be the end result? Un-fricking-believable! The countries that they lived in, no longer exist. Period. Eric The(AndTheEndComesWithAScream)Hun

Some have a European passport and can get out, but if you don't have one and aren't loaded the options are pretty limited... even boarding a regular plane to the West isn't an option without a visa.
We could just be sending them greencards for all I care, there are only like 4000 of the left in Zimbabwe, they should have no probs fitting in here in the US.

Does not matter what color you are.  Look at our nation now.  Its not issues of race, its issues of socialism that we need to address.  Any nation that takes from people to help other people is headed down the wrong road.  Socialism only creates wealth at the ruling class. And makes all people poor as a result.  This land grab stuff we are seeing now in the US is only the start.  Our Congress should just nullify the Supreme Court ruling that started all this but they are going about creating new laws in some effort to protect our land.  Well if the Constitution is not good enough then what is some second rate law going to do?

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Eric The(Hysterical)Hun

Quoted: Next summer they're going to wonder why they're hungry.

And there will be a huge international cry for relief by BONO and Elton John and Cher and .............

Africa.............what a shithole!

Quoted: Next summer they're going to wonder why they're hungry.

Not to worrry. We will send them food.

You would think that the USA and Commonwealth countries would be more than happy to have immigrants from S Africa.  Our immigration policy if FUBAR.  Even Europe should welcome new immigrants, given its declining population.

well looks like the africa problem will just take care of its self

Quoted: well looks like the africa problem will just take care of its self

If left to itself it literally would.  Problem is that Western governments and bleeding hearts will insist on getting involved.

Quoted: Quoted: First, they ARE African, and have been for many generations. Their forefathers settled it, tamed it, and made it prosperous. In SA they fought the Zulu, then fought the Brits to a standstill. Eventually they lost and were treated by them in ways that make the carpetbaggrs of the old south look like Boy Scouts. Then FIGHT.   Take up arms and FIGHT. FIGHT or FLIGHT.     It's a basic instinct, a basic survival skill

Thus speaks the Ghost of Carl Drega

IN RELATED NEWS....


news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051227/wl_afp/kenyadrought

'Christmas famine' kills 20 in Kenya's drought-hit north


MANDERA, Kenya (AFP) - Relief operations in Kenya's drought-hit northeast intensified as President Mwai Kibaki inspected food and water distribution in the region where local officials say at least 20 people have died from hunger and related illness this month.

Amid an outcry over what local media have dubbed the "Christmas famine," Kibaki visited two of the worst-hit areas after making an urgent weekend appeal for 100 million dollars (84 million euros) to fill a shortfall in funding to help the 2.5 million people expected to need aid by February.

Kibaki arrived here and pledged to dig new wells throughout the region as government officials and humanitarian groups stepped up the distribution of assistance, aided by the military which the government ordered to help late last week.

In Wajir and Mandera, among the worst-hit regions, Kibaki flagged off about 40 army trucks carrying relief food, water and drilling equipment to remote areas, two years of drought is now taking its toll.

"As a government we have decided to mobilize all resources at our disposal to ensure Kenyans will not suffer as a result of the famine," he told a gathering in Mandera in Kenya's far northeast on the border with Somalia. "We are going to intensify the distribution of relief to all affected people."

Initially, the president was visibly shaken when he visited severely malnourished children interned in Mandera district hospital.

As they readied for the presidential visit, local officials said the December death toll from malnutrition and its side effects now stood at at least 20, up eight since last week.

At least eight children have died of malnutrition or related diseases since the beginning of the month at the Garissa Provincial Hospital, the biggest referral facility in the region, while 12 others have died in outlying areas, a medical official told AFP.

"There is an increase of malnutrition here," said Garissa hospital chief Khadija Abdalla. "Of the 60 patients in hospital now, 21 are children who were brought here because of severe malnutrition."

Other hospital officials said they suspected the toll was higher as they believe they are not yet aware of many deaths among the nomadic pastoralist population that live in the region.

"We are certain there are more deaths out there, but it is hard to figure a correct figure because some go unreported," said one.

In Wajir, a dusty district outpost about 500 kilometers (310 miles) northeast of Nairobi, a senior official from the Kenya Red Cross Society (KRCS) said entire communities might vanish because of the drought's heavy toll on cattle.

KRCS said it had allocated some four million shillings (about 55.5 million dollars) at least 10 districts each to buy the dying animals for slaughter.

"Hundreds of livestock have died in this region and I fear that communities may soon be wiped out since they entirely depend on livestock," said Farid AbdulKadir, the head of the society's disaster relief operations, who described conditions as "terribly horrible."

"We are talking about a situation where more than half of the country is facing drought and 2.5 million people are facing food shortages," he told AFP.

"There is no need to hide the reality from the world," AbdulKadir said. "Unless something is done urgently, the situation will most certainly spiral out of control."

Kibaki's visit on Tuesday comes after announcing that his government had released 40 million dollars (33.6 million euros) for relief work but was still far short of what was needed to deal with the deteriorating situation.

Aid agencies have warned that the number in need will rise from the current 1.3 million to 2.5 million by February and the government has thus far sent off 7.5 million bags of maize and 2.5 million bags of beans to affected districts.

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......the problem is, I feel, is that we're trying to bring African up to the 21st century.....where in fact, they need to be trying to bring up parts of Africa, to the 19th, or 18th century.....and in a few generations, they might be self-sustaining.

Throwing money into a fire......that's just what the aid groups are doing now.

That's only a temporary solution..........Rhodesia used to be such a beautiful country.  The UN/World destroyed that!

AIDS/HIV hasn't wiped all those people out yet ? Don't some countries have over 50% of the population infected now ?

Quoted: old news, hasn't this been going on since 2000 1980?

Fixed it for you.  Damn Mugabe and all his minions.  I fear there is not going to be any gaining Rhodesia back before all the old fighters are gone.

-Ben

Quoted: Fourth, the EU and GB are in bed with the dictators and the ex-terrorists who now run most of the various sub-sahara nations for various reasons but if you "follow the money" you can begin to see a pattern. Certainly they will not allow a "white flight" to any of the EU nations when they are busy exclaiming to the rest of the world how "civilized" the Africans have become! To prevent alienating those nations, the US is not about to allow them here in large numbers either. Truth? No one wants them. Even those who see clearly what the outcome will be, have little choice except to stay for the end.

No shit.  

The murders can come here in droves, but the murder victims are left to stay where they are and starve.  

Canada is starting to feel the backlash from all the African "refugees" they have been admitting lately (not the European Africans).

And imagine if the Whites in Africa did take up arms?  They'd be ass-deep in blue helmets inside of 6 months.  No way the world would let that happen.

Quoted: You would think that the USA and Commonwealth countries would be more than happy to have immigrants from S Africa.  Our immigration policy if FUBAR.  Even Europe should welcome new immigrants, given its declining population.

For what it's worth, I have long thought that we should offer immdiate immigration for all Afrikaaners and Brits from South Africa and Rhodesia.

We re-settle them in Arizona!

In a decade or so, the Phoenix Stock Exchange would rival New York's!

And it would be a 'safe' Republican state for centuries!

Eric The(Commonsensible)Hun

Hmm, none of this nonsense occurred back when White Africans practiced "Apartness."

Just watched the sickening video.  

Pure horseshit.

If that were my farm, heads would be exploding from 168 HPBT rounds.  

The police station would be molotoved.  

The offices of the officials who participated would be burned, as well as their homes.  

I doubt that even if all of the farmers would have done the same, that it would have changed the overall outcome, but at least there would be some small amount of vengence.  

Now, let them all starve.  

Quoted: AIDS/HIV hasn't wiped all those people out yet ? Don't some countries have over 50% of the population infected now ?

Some facts & projections on disease & population...

World Population Growth, 1750–2150 (note the change in proportion from developed / undeveloped)

India to surpass China as largest by 2050

People living with HIV/AIDS in 2004 (bigger slice of the "pie" denotes greater percentage of new infections - the rates in Asia are striking)

Rates of infection worldwide

Region/Country Adult rate (%)   SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA 8.57   Botswana 35.80 Swaziland 25.25 Zimbabwe 25.06 Lesotho 23.57 Zambia 19.95 South Africa 19.94 Namibia 19.54 Malawi 15.96 Kenya 13.95 Central African Republic 13.84 Mozambique 13.22 Djibouti 11.75 Burundi 11.32 Rwanda 11.21 Cote d'Ivoire 10.76 Ethiopia 10.63

(all other countries < 10%)


Bottom line: Looks like there are going to be more people*, and more sick people, than the civilized world can take care of in the not-too distant future.



*barring unforeseen emerging/untreatable infectious diseases

Quoted: Quoted: AIDS/HIV hasn't wiped all those people out yet ? Don't some countries have over 50% of the population infected now ? Some facts & projections on disease & population... World Population Growth, 1750–2150 (note the change in proportion from developed / undeveloped) India to surpass China as largest by 2050 People living with HIV/AIDS in 2004 (bigger slice of the "pie" denotes greater percentage of new infections - the rates in Asia are striking) Rates of infection worldwide Region/Country Adult rate (%)   SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA 8.57   Botswana 35.80 Swaziland 25.25 Zimbabwe 25.06 Lesotho 23.57 Zambia 19.95 South Africa 19.94 Namibia 19.54 Malawi 15.96 Kenya 13.95 Central African Republic 13.84 Mozambique 13.22 Djibouti 11.75 Burundi 11.32 Rwanda 11.21 Cote d'Ivoire 10.76 Ethiopia 10.63 (all other countries < 10%) Bottom line: Looks like there are going to be more people*, and more sick people, than the civilized world can take care of in the not-too distant future. *barring unforeseen emerging/untreatable infectious diseases

How accurate are those estimates.  I've often heard that information about HIV infection is suppressed in Africa because people considered it to be a taboo subject.

Quoted: Quoted: You would think that the USA and Commonwealth countries would be more than happy to have immigrants from S Africa.  Our immigration policy if FUBAR.  Even Europe should welcome new immigrants, given its declining population. For what it's worth, I have long thought that we should offer immdiate immigration for all Afrikaaners and Brits from South Africa and Rhodesia. We re-settle them in Arizona! In a decade or so, the Phoenix Stock Exchange would rival New York's! And it would be a 'safe' Republican state for centuries! Eric The(Commonsensible)Hun

Just keep the Afrikaners away from Miami... they don't get along to well with the Cubans since Namibia

Quoted: Quoted: I don't think that 'fleeing to South Africa' is going to prove all that wise a decision, either. What are these white folks doing any longer in southern Africa? Do they really, really NOT understand what is likely going to be the end result? Un-fricking-believable! The countries that they lived in, no longer exist. Period. Eric The(AndTheEndComesWithAScream)Hun Because they are as African as those taking their property.  It is not as if they just waltzed in to Africa from wherever and started a farm. .  The majority of these people were born there;   in many cases, their families have lived there for hundreds of years. And, their country's name changed name a number of times, so what?   So they felt why run?   My (maternal) grandparents' farm was taken from them when the Russians occupied Hungary.  My mother wanted them to come to the US, as she and my dad were here in the US, and they could be out from under the Russian boot.  My grandfather said he wanted to stay in his country, and "did not want to be a beggar in a foreign land."  So, he worked, and eventually built another home.  Never did get his home or land back.  One might say that the gangs weren't killing them there like in Africa.  Enough did die.  The Russians and the Communist puppet government needed the farmers for much the same reason ans commented above: they starved without them.  So, I can understand why the African farmers wanted to stay in their country. My grandfather's  home was on the same foudation blocks as the family's first home, built in 1754.  They had just returned to the region after having returned after a Turkish occupation.  If one ignores that gap, their family lived in the same 30 mile or so radius for nearly a thousand years.  One doesn't give up that easily.  My dad's family has been in the US since before the Revolution.  When I see all the stuff about the foreign invasion, even if by "birth bomb", I have to wonder if I will not be faced with somethig similar in my lifetime: fight or flee.  I think it's obvious what I'll do. The gun control nonsense is just a ruse by subversives and their dupes to lay the groundwork for an easy takeover.  Looking back at just my grandfather's life, they laid down their arms after the surrender.  After the phony terms of the "peace treaty" it was too late.  They no longer had the means to resist the Russians.  Look at the damage during the Revolution of 1956; imagine what it would have been like had the populace been armed.   Sounds like the thinking of the writers of the Constitution when they wrote the 2nd Amendment. Your implicit recommendation is, of course, the practical one: get out and make another start where you are not such an obvious target.  But, that only acknowledges that racism is a reality, and isn't just white on black.  And, given the brief historical perspective above (not meaning to hijack the thread)  the thinking of the indigenous white farmers in Zimbabwe, I can see their reasoning.  However, in this world it is doomed to failure, and a lot of silly people will find out who the minority is.

You my friend, have pretty much hit the nail on the head here.

I have a lot of South African friends, two guys I work with are married to SA women. One buddy's in laws were here in the summer and I took his FIL shooting one day, I really like him.
He's hard core man, he doesnt like his black countrymen one bit but he has a history there and he aint leaving. No way, no how.
He wont give his land to the 'floppies' unless they take it from his cold dead hands.
On a side note, he's invited me over to hunt kudu. I think I better go before it's too late.

AIDS is the big problem in Africa, right next to rampant corruption. Its wiping out ppl in their most productive years, leading to shortage, famine, etc, which leads to resource conflict, etc. Life expectancy in Africa drops off dramatically after age 30, due to the disease. The countries that are doing the best are the Muslim ones, becuase of their strong cultural mores on sex (casual sex is the most prevalent transmission vector of aids in Africa). So we have a situation where casual and non-consensual sex is rife, leading to the spread of AIDS, which kills off people in their most productive years, leading to famine, war, disease, etc. which kills of even more of them, and the population of Africa is STILL GROWING!!! On top of which, the countries that are doing the best are the Muslim ones, including the ones where killing your Christian, pagan and non-arab muslim neigbour is the national sport.

As non-PC as it might be to say it, AIDS might be doing Africa a favour. In the countries worst affected, the populations are projected to be around 20% smaller by 2050 than they would have been had AIDS not been  problem- it may actually be making Africa more sustainable, and prolonging their other problems.

The problems really do seem unsolvable. We have a situation where they are sick, starving, warring, corrupt and demanding and blaming it all on whitey. It's going to take alot more than food flights and "Aid" to fix it, and I cant see how it is our job to do so. Africa worked when the Europeans ran it, and it stopped working when the Europeans went home (kicked out, mostly). Before whitey turned up, sickness and violence were probably as common as they are todday, as was starvation etc. Frankly, its hard to see a time when they had it better than when the were under colonial "opression". Not too PC, but seeminly accurate.

Some fun facts:
from http://www.prcdc.org/summaries/aidsinafrica/aidsinafrica.html

AIDS in Africa

At the end of 2001, there were 28.1 million sub-Saharan Africans living with HIV/AIDS. The overall prevalence of HIV among sub-Saharan African adults, ages 15 to 49 years, is estimated to be an astounding 8.4 percent.
Prevalence varies widely across the African continent. In some West African countries prevalence is less than 2 percent of the adult population, while in countries in southern Africa – including South Africa, Botswana, Lesotho, Swaziland, Namibia, Zambia and Zimbabwe – 20 percent and more of the adult population are living with HIV/AIDS.

There is insufficient data to accurately estimate HIV infection across northern Africa, although localized studies indicate that HIV is spreading among the general population. In 2001 there were about 80,000 new infections and 440,000 people living with HIV/AIDS in North Africa and the Middle East.
Sub-Saharan Africa is home to the nearly seventy percent of the worldwide population of adults living with HIV/AIDS. Four of every five children living with HIV/AIDS are in Africa.
In 2001, 2.3 million Sub-Saharan Africans died of AIDS-related causes, compared with 2.2 million deaths in 1999. This was 80 percent of all the AIDS-related deaths in the world. AIDS is by far the leading cause of death in Africa, causing one of every five deaths on the sub-continent.
There are signs that the epidemic may be stabilizing in parts of Sub-Saharan Africa. There were 3.4 million new infections in 2001, compared with 4.0 million in 1999. The reasons for this decline include the fact that in countries with high infection rates there is a smaller pool of people who are still at risk of infection, and successful prevention programs in several countries, notably Uganda, that have reduced infection rates.
Africa is the only region of the world where more women than men are being infected with HIV and dying from AIDS-related causes. Fifty-five percent of HIV positive adults in Sub-Saharan Africa are women, and heterosexual activity is the principal mode of transmission. Women may have higher prevalence than men because they are more susceptible to HIV infection, and because they are more likely to be exposed to an infected partner.
Tuberculosis cases are likely to double in the next ten years as a result of the increased spread of HIV and the inadequacy of public health strategies for treating TB. There were nearly two million new TB cases in Africa in 1999, nearly two-thirds also infected with HIV, and experts estimate 3.3 million TB cases by 2005.


The Demographic Impact of AIDS

Estimated crude death rates in eastern and southern Africa are as much as 50 to 500 percent greater than they would have been without AIDS. In Kenya, the crude death rate is estimated to have increased from 6.5 per thousand to 14.1 per thousand population due to AIDS. In South Africa, the estimated crude death rate has almost doubled, from 7.4 to 14.7 deaths per thousand population.
In South Africa, it is estimated that in 2000, HIV/AIDS was the cause of 40 percent of adult deaths aged 15-49 and 25 percent of all deaths. Projections show that without treatment to prevent AIDS, the number of AIDS-related deaths will increase to more than double the number of deaths from all other causes within the next ten years.
The population growth rate in Zimbabwe has been reduced to nearly zero because of AIDS-related deaths. Sharply reduced growth rates are also seen in South Africa, Botswana, Malawi, Namibia, Swaziland and Zambia.
By 2003, there will be negative population growth in Botswana, South Africa and Zimbabwe. Negative population growth has never before been projected in a developing country; it is caused by a combination of high HIV prevalence and declining relatively low fertility.
In the 35 African countries that are highly affected by HIV/AIDS, life expectancy at birth is estimated at 48.3 years, 6.5 years less than it would have been without HIV. The projected population of these countries in 2015 is 84 million, 10 per cent less than it would have been without AIDS.
Life expectancy and child mortality rates, two indicators of development that have shown positive trends in recent years, are now being reversed in parts of Africa. The life expectancy of children born in Botswana, Malawi, Mozambique, Rwanda, Zambia and Zimbabwe is now less than 40 years of age; without AIDS, life expectancy would have been between 50 and 71.
In the eight African countries with HIV infection rates over 15 percent, it is estimated that a third of today’s 15 year olds will die from AIDS.


AIDS mortality is changing the population structure of many African countries. Instead of the "population pyramid" in which there is a gradual reduction in population at higher ages, there is a "population chimney", with a sharp decrease in the number of adults over age 30. As a result, large numbers of children will grow up without their parents, and increased child labor will become unavoidable.

AIDS AND CHILDREN

There are about 2.4 million children living with HIV/AIDS in Sub-Saharan Africa at the end of 2001. The largest numbers of infected children are living in Ethiopia, Nigeria, South Africa and Kenya.
More than four million children under age 15 have died of AIDS, with 90 percent of these deaths in Africa. The vast majority of HIV infections in children are caused by transmission of the virus from mother to child during delivery; transmission can also occur through breastfeeding. In East and Southern Africa, infant mortality rates are nearly 70 percent higher than they would have been without AIDS.
More than 12 million children in Sub-Saharan Africa are maternal orphans of AIDS. Uganda, Tanzania, Nigeria and Ethiopia each have more than one million AIDS orphans living within their borders. By 2010, 44 million children in 34 countries hardest hit by HIV/AIDS will have lost one or both parents, primarily from AIDS.
ECONOMIC IMPACT

As HIV prevalence rates increase, there is a decline in the total and growth in national income. In countries where 20 percent or more of the population is infected, GDP may decline up to 2 percent a year.
In South Africa, economic growth will be reduced by 0.3-0.4 percent annually by AIDS, resulting in a gross domestic product that will be 17 percent lower than it would have been without AIDS.
South African households will be spending more on care for family members with AIDS, reducing their disposable income by 13 percent. Governments and businesses will have less money to save and reinvest in their economy.
AIDS has high costs to the workforce, including lost productivity, hiring and retraining, and high costs for insurance and medical care. It will also lead to labor shortages in some countries. While unskilled workers may be relatively easy to replace in countries with high unemployment, the impact will be severe among skilled workers, including the educational system.
AIDS has taken a high toll on the educational system in Africa; it has eroded the supply of qualified teachers, made it more difficult for children to attend school because family budgets are reduced, and increased the number of children growing up without the parental support they need to stay in school.
High mortality rates among adults in their most productive years means that Africans will not experience a "demographic bonus" - the economic benefit that comes from having a population with a relatively large proportion of workers relative to the number of children.
PREVENTING AND TREATING AIDS

A small number of African countries responded quickly and effectively to the AIDS epidemic. Senegal, Uganda and Zambia are examples of countries that have been successful at controlling the epidemic.
Senegal has maintained relatively low rates of HIV/AIDS through a combination of longstanding public health initiatives, broad-based school and community education programs, the public support of religious leaders, and the cultural practices of this largely Muslim country. In Uganda, aggressive public health campaigns have brought prevalence rates to their lowest levels in years.
The International Partnership against AIDS in Africa was formed in 1999 to mobilize a broader, intensified response to the epidemic. One of its goals is to encourage countries in Africa to create a high-level coordinating body for planning and treatment efforts. Top-level AIDS coordinating bodies have been established in Ethiopia, Ghana, Mozambique, Nigeria, South Africa, Swaziland, Uganda, United Republic of Tanzania, and Zambia.
An investment of $3 billion a year from the global community, half for prevention programs and half for treatment, would have a significant impact on the quality of life of millions of Africans.
Early in the AIDS epidemic, more educated Africans were at greater risk for infection because their higher disposable income and greater mobility increased the likelihood of casual sex. This trend may have been reversed in some regions, so that more educated people are more likely to receive and act upon prevention information, including greater condom use and less casual sexual activity.
This Executive Summary was prepared by Linda Rosen of the Population Resource Center in December 2001 and reviewed by Dr. Robert Shell of the University of the Western Cape, South Africa. Sources include UNAIDS, WHO, USAID, Population Reference Bureau, UN Population Division, and the South African Medical Research Council. For further information please contact the Center at (202) 467-5030, 1725 K Street, NW, Suite 1102, Washington, D.C. 20006, [email protected], or (609) 452-2822m 15 Roszel Road, Princeton, NJ 08540, [email protected].

Estimates are from the UN (2000)

If anything, I would expect the UN to inflate the figures (to elicit more funds), my guess is they are probably somewhere in the neighborhood.

Couple of places in the world are biological stewpots, and sub-sahara is one of them.

I'm sure hollywood types will flock to this issue like they did for apartheid
as soon as they learn of it.



GM

Quoted: I don't think that 'fleeing to South Africa' is going to prove all that wise a decision, either. What are these white folks doing any longer in southern Africa? Do they really, really NOT understand what is likely going to be the end result? Un-fricking-believable! The countries that they lived in, no longer exist. Period. Eric The(AndTheEndComesWithAScream)Hun

That may said of us sometime in the near future.  If born and raised there, isn't it worth it to protect what's yours?

i saw a previous posting with pictures of some african civil war and their various "styles" of firing the AK-47 and other weapons.
Anyone want to take bets on how long until we see those same pictures except from ZIM   - I will take "less than 1 year" for 200 Alex.

somebody please show me the difference between the government theft in that video and the SCOTUS decision in Kelo v. New London.

Quoted: somebody please show me the difference between the government theft in that video and the SCOTUS decision in Kelo v. New London.

Theyre black!

Quoted: somebody please show me the difference between the government theft in that video and the SCOTUS decision in Kelo v. New London.

Touche'

He needed to get a few truckloads of hazmat to scatter in the fields.  If he can't farm it, phuck it!  No one can.  They'll starve to death soon enough under the enlightened leadership of Robert Mugabe.

Quoted: Quoted: You would think that the USA and Commonwealth countries would be more than happy to have immigrants from S Africa.  Our immigration policy if FUBAR.  Even Europe should welcome new immigrants, given its declining population. For what it's worth, I have long thought that we should offer immdiate immigration for all Afrikaaners and Brits from South Africa and Rhodesia. We re-settle them in Arizona! In a decade or so, the Phoenix Stock Exchange would rival New York's! And it would be a 'safe' Republican state for centuries! Eric The(Commonsensible)Hun

Wrong color!  No, I don't give a shit about the CoC, the truth is the truth, and freedom begins when one stops pissing in one's pants about someone playing the "offended" card.

In the 1960s, the Johnson administration and the Congress put together policies making a definite and concerted effort to "change the complexion" (yes, their words) of the immigrants coming into the US.  At that time, immigration from Europe (and Europeans from wherever)  was almost unlimited, and others restricted, essentially maintaining the balance of the US as it existed at the time.  The Congress and LBJ changed all that, restricting immigration from Europe and opening it for "others".

Quoted: Quoted: I don't think that 'fleeing to South Africa' is going to prove all that wise a decision, either. What are these white folks doing any longer in southern Africa? Do they really, really NOT understand what is likely going to be the end result? Un-fricking-believable! The countries that they lived in, no longer exist. Period. Eric The(AndTheEndComesWithAScream)Hun Some have a European passport and can get out, but if you don't have one and aren't loaded the options are pretty limited... even boarding a regular plane to the West isn't an option without a visa. We could just be sending them greencards for all I care, there are only like 4000 of the left in Zimbabwe, they should have no probs fitting in here in the US.

The Visa isn't even the issue.  People in WWII got out of places without visas.  It's finding someplace to go that's the problem.  White people are pariahs everywhere.

didn't new zealand or australia or some other country offer blanket refugee status to whites leaving zim/rsa?

funny thing is zim and rsa both offer the best opportunity for the west to establish real working democracies in sub-saharan africa. they still have relatively functional western-style govt bureaucracies and some semblance of western leaning political ambitions - rsa more than zim due to mugabe's shenanigans but the mdc in zim is pretty established.

i wish rsa, botswana, and zambia would go in and oust moogie under the oau...

Sensationalizing? Nahhhhhh, we know this Black war Vet is having his land taken too, but nowhere do you hear it in those terms.



Iv'e been waiting for this bullshit new interpretation on imminent domain to cause blood on the streets but it looks like we have a warrior from the greatest generation with one fight left in him in defense of our Nation before he's called home.Godspeed,To Victory & Peace.