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Posted: 12/14/2005 10:55:11 AM EDT


Link Posted: 12/14/2005 10:57:05 AM EDT
A few phrases come to mind...



"whoop whoop, pull up, whoop whoop, pull up"

"too low, terrain, too low, terrain"

"altitude, altitude"
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 10:57:11 AM EDT
You mean F/A-52H?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 10:58:25 AM EDT
Old pic. Ranger was decommissioned in 1993.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 10:59:33 AM EDT
There's no friggin way!

That's way too small for a B-52!
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:00:43 AM EDT


Some guys are all guts and no brains. I guess you have to be in that profession.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:01:08 AM EDT
Was that a flyby or a ditching? The Buff is pretty nose-down in that pic.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:01:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JustinOK34:
A few phrases come to mind...



"whoop whoop, pull up, whoop whoop, pull up"

"too low, terrain, too low, terrain"

"altitude, altitude"




you forgot "OH SHIT!!!!"
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:01:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Zhukov:
There's no friggin way!

That's way too small for a B-52!



Compared to a bird farm? Seems pretty accurate.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:03:52 AM EDT


Well boys, we got three engines out, we got more holes in us than a horse trader's mule, the radio is gone and we're leaking fuel and if we was flying any lower why we'd need sleigh bells on this thing... but we got one little budge on those Roosskies. At this height why they might harpoon us but they dang sure ain't gonna spot us on no radar screen!


Major T. J. "King" Kong --

Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:04:40 AM EDT
I once almost saw a C-5 Galaxy eat shit while the pilot was goofing off doing a low level fly by at airshow. They had the usual hook up so you could here everything in the cockpit and he did one pass at a couple hundred feet no problem. The next one hes coming by and his tail starts to lower a bit and then you heard him jack the engine up a whole lot and he started muttering "fuck.shit" into his mike which was kinda funny....sorry boring story.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:05:50 AM EDT
Hokey Chit!
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:06:20 AM EDT
They are getting low so that they can replenish their precious fluids...
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:08:19 AM EDT
Who else knew that a USPS Jeep has a significantly bigger radar signature than a B-52?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:20:08 AM EDT
The B-52 is almost unique in that it flies in a nose-low attitude in level flight.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:21:17 AM EDT
"WAVE OFF! WAVE OFF!'
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:24:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 11:25:38 AM EDT by California_Kid]
Sorry, dupe. (My reply, not the OP)

Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:25:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By osprey21:

Well boys, we got three engines out, we got more holes in us than a horse trader's mule, the radio is gone and we're leaking fuel and if we was flying any lower why we'd need sleigh bells on this thing... but we got one little budge on those Roosskies. At this height why they might harpoon us but they dang sure ain't gonna spot us on no radar screen!


Major T. J. "King" Kong --




A classic!
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:26:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 11:31:37 AM EDT by fight4yourrights]
FAKE - unless it's unpowered, and coming in a sharp dive into the water



Notice there is NO effect on the water. No jet wash, no air distrubance, nothing.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:26:31 AM EDT
"Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full"

SBG
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:26:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By thompsondd:
kimmershow.com/fileTamer/B-52_USS_Ranger_flyby.jpg




Very cool pic BTW!
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:29:38 AM EDT
One of the Colonel's I worked with in the Air Force took his B-52 below "ground level" down the grand canyon. Amazing stuff.

It was back in the mid-60s so I'm sure even if the AF had found out, he probably wouldn't have gotten in trouble. If you did it now, there would be a sh*t-storm.

- CD
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:30:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Who else knew that a USPS Jeep has a significantly bigger radar signature than a B-52?



huh.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:32:00 AM EDT
Carrier based B-52?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:32:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
The B-52 is almost unique in that it flies in a nose-low attitude in level flight.



Yep, watch 'em take off, it looks almost like a chopper taking off (nose-low).



Originally Posted By ScaryBlackGuns:
"Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full"

SBG




Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:40:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Was that a flyby or a ditching? The Buff is pretty nose-down in that pic.



Because of the angle of incidence that the wings are mounted to the fuselage, a B-52 will actually take off in a slight nose-down attitude.

He's flying level.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:43:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ASUsax:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Who else knew that a USPS Jeep has a significantly bigger radar signature than a B-52?



huh.



Jeeps have all kinds of right angles and reflect radar like crazy.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:46:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CamperDad:
One of the Colonel's I worked with in the Air Force took his B-52 below "ground level" down the grand canyon. Amazing stuff.

It was back in the mid-60s so I'm sure even if the AF had found out, he probably wouldn't have gotten in trouble. If you did it now, there would be a sh*t-storm.

- CD



LeMay probably would've promoted him if he found out about it.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:50:22 AM EDT
"buff 26, call the ball"

"I have the ball"


Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:51:24 AM EDT
Stayed in Bossier City, LA, home of Barksdale AF base and a ton of B-52s. It was absolutely amazing to watch them take off and land because they always look like they are nose down going into the dirt.

And while I'm thinking about it....

Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:53:31 AM EDT
catapult test?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 12:22:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By ASUsax:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Who else knew that a USPS Jeep has a significantly bigger radar signature than a B-52?



huh.



Jeeps have all kinds of right angles and reflect radar like crazy.



And here I thought that my Jeep was stealthy!

Link Posted: 12/14/2005 12:50:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CamperDad:
One of the Colonel's I worked with in the Air Force took his B-52 below "ground level" down the grand canyon. Amazing stuff.

It was back in the mid-60s so I'm sure even if the AF had found out, he probably wouldn't have gotten in trouble. If you did it now, there would be a sh*t-storm.

- CD



this brings to mind a little experience I had as a child. We were doing some back country hiking in the Adirandacks in upstate NY, in around the JBL range. As we were up on the ridge we heard the loudest noise we ever did hear. We knew it was a plane but could't figure out where the fuck it was. Then we looked down. It was a B-52 practicing bombing runs through the high peaks.

We also saw a couple of A-10s fly over us when we up on the summit of some mountain on another trip. They were so close to our heads we could see between the barrels of the nose cannon. Now that was loud
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 12:53:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 12:55:40 PM EDT by Cabby]

Originally Posted By wgjhsafT:
Stayed in Bossier City, LA, home of Barksdale AF base and a ton of B-52s. It was absolutely amazing to watch them take off and land because they always look like they are nose down going into the dirt.

And while I'm thinking about it....

peacetheoldfashionedway.com/images/White.gif



What is that? The four engine high-bypass version of the B-52? I had heard that that had been tested, but had never seen a graphic.

ETA



Link Posted: 12/14/2005 12:55:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JustinOK34:
A few phrases come to mind...



"whoop whoop, pull up, whoop whoop, pull up"

"too low, terrain, too low, terrain"

"altitude, altitude"



Not on a B-52 unless it was the guy next to you saying it.

More than likely he was yelling, "FU**IN'-A, THIS IS COOL AS SH**!!! GO LOWER, PUSSY, GO LOWER!"
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 12:56:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Brohawk:

Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Was that a flyby or a ditching? The Buff is pretty nose-down in that pic.



Because of the angle of incidence that the wings are mounted to the fuselage, a B-52 will actually take off in a slight nose-down attitude.

He's flying level.



Link Posted: 12/14/2005 12:57:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zhukov:
There's no friggin way!

That's way too small for a B-52!



Uh.

You see those little things on top of the ship?

Those are jets.

Now compare them.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 12:58:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
The B-52 is almost unique in that it flies in a nose-low attitude in level flight.



Doesn't surprise me a bit when you look at the angle of the wings at their root.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 12:59:34 PM EDT
The Air Force inspecting the undersides of the elevators?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 1:00:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ArmedAggie:

Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
The B-52 is almost unique in that it flies in a nose-low attitude in level flight.



Doesn't surprise me a bit when you look at the angle of the wings at their root.



They were designed for cruising up around 40k or so. When they're up at altitude they mave a more "fuselage level" attitude.

It's kinda cool to watch the tail take off first.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 1:01:34 PM EDT
Awesome pic. Pucker factor is higher than the aircraft itself.

Link Posted: 12/14/2005 1:02:47 PM EDT
Join the Navy. See the world (and occasionally, the top of a B-52)!
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 1:20:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Originally Posted By ArmedAggie:

Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
The B-52 is almost unique in that it flies in a nose-low attitude in level flight.



Doesn't surprise me a bit when you look at the angle of the wings at their root.



They were designed for cruising up around 40k or so. When they're up at altitude they mave a more "fuselage level" attitude.

It's kinda cool to watch the tail take off first.



Yeah, I guess I never really thought about it but I have seen them land and the fuselage is pretty much flat instead of nose-high. They seem to land all wheels at the same time. What is cool is seeing them crabbing into the wind on landing and yet the wheels are pointed straight down the runway. They have an interesting landing gear system.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 7:31:11 PM EDT
The B-52 had cross-wind crab...it could land in conditions that other aircraft would have to divert for.
I started my career on the B-52G, spent 5 years on those pigs. Loved them!
The B-52G had a Terrain Avoidance radar...it enabled low-level penetration of hostile airspace. By low -level I mean less than 300ft above ground level. Combined with the electro-optical vision (EVS) system, the B-52G could get on the deck in really nasty conditions at 400+ knots.

Link Posted: 12/14/2005 7:42:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
The B-52 is almost unique in that it flies in a nose-low attitude in level flight.



Almost

Link Posted: 12/14/2005 8:12:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
FAKE - unless it's unpowered, and coming in a sharp dive into the water



Notice there is NO effect on the water. No jet wash, no air distrubance, nothing.



There is a slight reflection on thw water under the BUFF.
We used to have some stationed here in Fort Worth at Carswell AFB back when it was a SAC base. I really do miss the sound of a BUFF taking off! When they would launch all of in short intervals it was simply AWESOME!
Jim
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 9:02:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
FAKE - unless it's unpowered, and coming in a sharp dive into the water



Notice there is NO effect on the water. No jet wash, no air distrubance, nothing.



It is not a fake. I have a lovely 8x10 of this pic hanging in my office. The pic was taken after a harpoon exercise against the carrier. They requested a fly-by and well, they got one. The DO (a bad mother back in SAC days) about shit when he got the pics. But other than that all involved are sworn to secrecy.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 9:47:28 PM EDT
That is what a B-52 looks like in flight, I crew chiefed one for several years in the SAC era. I even managed to aquire a couple of hundred hours of riding around the country side. They are awesome and can fly a couple of hundred feet off the ground or the water no problem. The "angle of attack" in the picture is normal for flight. They fly slightly nose down, if you watch them take off the ass comes up first, if you watch them land they come in nose down and flare at the last instant to get level or nose up before touch down.

A B-52H is far from underpowered unless fully loaded with fuel and bombs. They have a similar power to weight as an early jet fighter with a light fuel load. They may be old but they have stout flight controls and don't fall out of the sky when the computer craps out.

I think the new saying for B-52 pilots is, "It may not be your father's Air Force, but it is probably his airplane."
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 9:57:31 PM EDT
Hell, that is cool. I'd do that in a second. An airplane is an airplane. Cessna, B52, F18, or piper cub. Now, he should try to approach the carrier, and then call the ball. I bet he would get the LSO to jump off of the boat...
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 3:14:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lonegunman:
I think the new saying for B-52 pilots is, "It may not be your father's Air Force, but it is probably his airplane."



- and, in the case of the Buff, you can still smell your father's sweat, etc in the airframe.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 4:11:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Cabby:

Originally Posted By wgjhsafT:
Stayed in Bossier City, LA, home of Barksdale AF base and a ton of B-52s. It was absolutely amazing to watch them take off and land because they always look like they are nose down going into the dirt.

And while I'm thinking about it....

peacetheoldfashionedway.com/images/White.gif



What is that? The four engine high-bypass version of the B-52? I had heard that that had been tested, but had never seen a graphic.

ETA



www.check-six.com/images/Crash_Sites_images/B-52-site-sm/B52-0119-inflight.jpg

www.check-six.com/images/Crash_Sites_images/B-52-site-sm/b52-70119-mounted.jpg



The test bed for the TF-39 (C-5) engine. Check out this link:

http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/B-52s_in_the_desert.htm
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