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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:05:35 AM EDT
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She is going to have to move closer, or change jobs and take a taxi to work. She had plenty of warnings, she chose to drive fast because she was going to be late for work every day.
She should have lawyered up better cause she would have gotten a work only driver's permit. |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:07:07 AM EDT
[#2]
would you even be considering this is she wasn't hot?
tell her you will gladly give her your time to drive, her car, her gas money, but ask whats in it for you  women don't like doormatts, make she she understands her obligations up front 
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:08:18 AM EDT
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NO WAY are you going to get any pie on this one. I believe she already has you pegged as a SAP and a DRAMA QUEEN.
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:13:30 AM EDT
[#4]
+1. |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 2:10:58 PM EDT
[#5]
Wow, some of you guys are genuine, clueless assholes. Nice to know that!
 Nookie or no nookie, it's a little extra money for me and I enjoy her company and I'm glad to help a good friend out in any event. As to the move or hotel options, I believe that she has no desire to upset the stability of her kid's lives by moving, and she's always there for her kids every night and every morning. THAT is FAR more important than her choosing to be more conveniently located to her workplace. You've got your priorities totally fucked up if you think otherwise. CJ |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 2:29:08 PM EDT
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You must be on the friends ladder with alot of women.
-Dan. Actions have consequences. I drove my friend around when he lost his liscence for a month. But only now and then and he didn't ask me to drive him to work. He would want a ride to a party or something. I wouldn't ask my friend to drive me 80 miles to work either. WTF? 
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Posted: 12/12/2005 2:33:38 PM EDT
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A friend bails you out of jail! A TRUE FRIEND IS RIGHT BESIDE YOU IN THE CELL SAYING "DAMN THAT WAS FUN!!"
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Posted: 12/12/2005 2:42:15 PM EDT
[#8]
LOL You are a chump. You are going to go far out of your way driving 6 hours a day for some woman who will realize you are a chump and will not give you what you are hoping to gain from this. |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 2:46:28 PM EDT
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I help friends out with things they need; I do not reinforce their bad decisions. Several better alternatives have been suggested in this thread.
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Posted: 12/12/2005 3:44:29 PM EDT
[#10]
If I get the cash price I'm demanding for my services...and I will or I won't do it...then I'm no chump no matter what happens or what doesn't. If I do this three times a week, the net result is an extra thousand a month, minus gas costs. Call it 750 extra bucks a months after costs. I can definitely use that even if I get nothing else.
Take your chump talk somewhere else. I don't want to hear it and the purpose of this thread isn't for you to throw insults at anyone including me. CJ |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 4:40:36 PM EDT
[#11]
I'm am betting you will ask to have this one locked too.
Bob |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 5:00:27 PM EDT
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For a real friend, someone like family, I'd just do it. For a GOOD friend, I'd only charge for gas. Sounds like this is a friendly co-worker or aquaintence....charge them what they are willing to pay. No Expert |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 5:04:54 PM EDT
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I don't know if anyone brought this up, but your thread title was also the tagline for the Disney movie "Free Willy"
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Posted: 12/12/2005 5:05:58 PM EDT
[#14]
I'd be willing to help a friend out but on the same token, as a friend I would never ask someone to go that far out of their way for me. I think this woman could easily take a bus or get an apartment closer by.
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Posted: 12/12/2005 7:28:34 PM EDT
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No offense, but this just doesn't make sense. What happens when the kids get sick and mom has to pick them up from school... will they be able to wait 3 hours (while you go to pick up mom) before someone comes to school get them???
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Posted: 12/12/2005 7:52:08 PM EDT
[#16]
Chump who is being played like an old piano.
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Posted: 12/12/2005 7:53:49 PM EDT
[#17]
Gas is expensive. Tell her you'll need either gas money, or ass.
Ass or gas, nobody rides for free. |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:00:36 PM EDT
[#18]
You sound like maybe you might try to use this situation soley for money or sex under the guise of helping out a friend. You may be lonely but dealings like this only hurt your character.
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:09:42 PM EDT
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No, that's not the case. I'm willing to help a friend here, but it's likely that I'll have to make some changes to my OWN working situation to make it happen. I expect to be compensated well enough to make up for it, at least, and cover expenses and make it worth my while. I AM looking at buying a tank of gas EVERY day I do this. Plus mileage and wear and tear on my tires and the rest of the car. An oil change every ten days.
Hell, she can afford 80 bucks a day to get to work. She's a well paid salesman. (SalesPERSON, sorry.) The apartment/hotel/moving issues have been quite thoroughly discussed and are out of the question so there's no need to bring them up anymore. She's just not going to be doing that, and that's that. Her family's stability is far more important to her. Whoever said it can take your chump talk and stuff it. I won't do this unless it's worth my time. I won't forgive the cash requirement, not even if she jumps my bones. The bills have to be paid. There are no free rides being offered here. Be sure of that. I wouldn't even make such an offer to someone who wasn't a friend. I wouldn't do it for a random stranger. CJ |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:10:35 PM EDT
[#20]
Well I once drove a friend from Tennessee to New Hampshire in a weekend. The Pie was very very very very prime choice and she made it worth my while in 6 states, and her and her friend made it worth my while when I got there.
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:15:22 PM EDT
[#21]
If shes a good friend charge her for gas and consider her company extra payment. Do unto others.
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:16:56 PM EDT
[#22]
How long have you been friends?
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:47:13 PM EDT
[#23]
I would go the distance to help a friend in need.
That being said, your situation is quite unique in the sense that it will require quite a change in your routine and "lifestyle" over an EXTENDED period of time. .... and to use the phrase, "without an exit strategy". Things to keep in mind are ... Until how long will this arrangement last? What if you finally get tired of driving her to work? How will you handle that then? Will you be leaving her dangling in the wind? What you are planning to take on is a responsibility. All these are just food for thought. Things I would consider if I were in your shoes. Things I would consider in order to avoid any future disappointments / misunderstandings or illfeelings between two friends in case you can no longer continue with the arrangement. HOWEVER from your subsequent statements, it sounds like you are also hoping for something "more" to come out of the whole arrangement. If that is the case, then go for it. I am assuming you are single. I know how it is to go out of your way just to be with a girl whome you enjoy being with and could never get enough of. Somehow, in the scheme of things, in that type of "relationship" men do not mind being dragged to hell and back for the sake of a woman. 
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:48:12 PM EDT
[#24]
Is she a member here? 
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Posted: 12/13/2005 2:28:47 AM EDT
[#25]
It might end UP that way, but it can't START that way. If she turns out to be good company for three hours of driving and pays my fee with a smile, after a few days I may cut my rates to gas costs alone, but I can't start that way as I don't want to even give the appearance of being a rug, so to speak. I've known her for about a year, I guess. CJ |
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Posted: 12/16/2005 11:26:36 PM EDT
[#26]
Don't worry about being treated like a rug, a rug can count on getting laid some day, that's just not in the picture for you.
You are more like an all day sucker. You obviously had intentions of doing this all along so I don't see why you asked for opinions. |
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Posted: 12/16/2005 11:50:00 PM EDT
[#27]
According to CJ, she has not said anything about CJ giving her a ride.
This is all his idea. That said, I don't see good things coming from this, CJ. You are a nice guy, but DAMN. She had BETTER be grateful and give you a special treat after doing this. |
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Posted: 12/17/2005 12:53:57 AM EDT
[#28]
your friend should rent an apartment walking distance from her work
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Posted: 12/17/2005 1:13:29 AM EDT
[#29]
Getting her license revoked for 6 months because of too many tickets? Jeez, i drive like a saint for at least that long after getting a ticket.
I'd say help her at first, but tell her to get a bus or something... or car pool? $80 A DAY in transportation costs is ridiculous, and it's not good for either or you. I'd say, drive her for free for a week, but tell her that's that so she can learn responsibility for her actions, and be more self reliant. |
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Posted: 12/17/2005 1:24:56 AM EDT
[#30]
First I'd tell her to talk to the judge depending on the offense they may grant her driving privleges just to and from work. I would charge what is fair (sounds like you're doing that), in the end no matter what happens you feel good about helping someone else out.
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Posted: 12/17/2005 5:44:38 AM EDT
[#31]
Bus? Car pool? Taxi?
Not possible. Not possible. Not possible. I can only guess that hardship was denied. If I'm right about this, she's on vacation for six more weeks unless I step up and help out, and the investment on my part will be considerable but I will not do it unless it's worth my while. 80 bucks a day. At 10 bucks an hour, that's a day's pay, obviously. But she makes quite a lot more than that and can easily afford to pay that fee. Heck, half of it would go to cover my gas costs, leaving 40 bucks for the service. My rate is way down on the cheap side. Just high enough to keep from being exploited. No definite answer yet anyway. I may not even have to worry about it. But yes, I'll do it if she accepts. That's what you do for family and friends where I come from. CJ |
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Posted: 12/17/2005 11:14:20 AM EDT
[#32]
After all this, you at least better post pics!
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Posted: 12/17/2005 11:16:21 AM EDT
[#33]
+1. Even if she just stays there during the work week. |
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Posted: 12/17/2005 11:21:01 AM EDT
[#34]
There's doing it for a friend and doing it for pussy. They don't add (i.e. you go further for a friend who you want to diddle). Either you're doing this out of the goodness of your own heart and expect NOTHING in return, or you're doing it for pussy. Can't have it both ways. Sort it out and see where that leaves you.
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Posted: 12/17/2005 11:24:31 AM EDT
[#35]
The question isnt "how far?"...
But rather "do you possess the constitution to take it as far as it's needed?"
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Posted: 12/17/2005 11:26:22 AM EDT
[#36]
You think what you want. I'd do it for free if I could afford to donate six hours, a tank of gas, and 320 miles to her, three times a week. But I can't. So I'll do it for a very reasonable fee that is a little over
twice my raw costs for doing this. Economics dictate that I sell what I can't afford to give away. Period. No more need to mention that option because it's NOT possible and WON'T happen. Pie on the side may be an option but it's not why I'm making the offer. I'd planned to make it today but something happened that has caused a delay. CJ |
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Posted: 12/17/2005 11:39:29 AM EDT
[#37]
Are you in love with this "Friend" Because that is the what it sounds like. It is the only reasonable explanation.
I'm sure she can pay a teenager 80 bucks a day to be her personal driver. If she is that well off, tell her to buy you an airplane to shuttle her around. |
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Posted: 12/17/2005 12:08:01 PM EDT
[#38]
When my brother broke his back and was in a wheelchair for 7 months, I added 2 hours to my daily commute to pack him up and bring him to work. I refused his offer of payment for gas.
If he did something as stupid as lose his license for being a dumbass, I probably would not have done it at all. Of course, if I lost my license, I would drive without one before I would ask anyone to drive me 80 fucking miles each way! Hell, I haven't had a ticket since 1997, and I've been pulled over twice since then. What in the HELL was she doing to have gotten so many tickets? Since you are charging $$, it's no different than if you were doing this as a part time job, and you are not a "chump". You won't get any pussy though..... |
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Posted: 12/17/2005 12:20:25 PM EDT
[#39]
Sounds like you really like her, and don't mind doing it so I say go ahead,......but refuse the pie if offered. This will drive her crazy and make her want you even more when the arrangement is over, without looking like a sap.
If you accept the pie during the driving period you will immediately be put into her mental "sap bin" and while it might be good for a while, it will not last. |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 12:57:36 PM EDT
[#40]
It wasn't necessary anyway. The thought was appreciated, though.
CJ |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 1:12:06 PM EDT
[#41]
You consider a woman that you have known for only a year to be a close friend? I usually find your posts to be among the most realistic and grounded of anyone on this board, but you have gone off the deep end for this woman.
This would be a terrible idea for you, for your friendship, and for any chance of it becoming a romance. |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 1:13:09 PM EDT
[#42]
Brother vs some woman you have known for a year, does that change things? |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 1:18:40 PM EDT
[#43]
 POT, this is KETTLE. You are BLACK, I say again, BLACK, over. |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 2:10:11 PM EDT
[#44]
It's over, dude. Go home.
CJ |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 2:45:19 PM EDT
[#45]
Why does she have a job 80 miles away with kids? How in the fuck did she get so many tickets that she would get the license revoked when she KNEW she had to drive 80 FUCKING MILES EACH WAY A DAY? Why isnt a taxi an option?
The situation is bullshit, but you obviously came here asking without wanting an answer. Every time someone says that you are being a chump on this one(which you are), you freak out and say "go away". Lock your damn thread, it has no point except for you to just be stupid about the situation. |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 3:09:18 PM EDT
[#46]
Look, I said it was over. It turns out that she in fact did NOT lose her license, fortunately, so all the rest of the comments (including mine) are for nothing.
THE MOVIE'S OVER. YOU CAN GO HOME NOW. CJ |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 3:11:01 PM EDT
[#47]
You heard the man! MOVE ALONG!
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