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11/19/2005 7:15:16 AM EDT
There are two types of camera trickery I'd love to understand.

The first is seen in motion pictures, and is usually employed when a character is first told of some monumental item. The camera zooms in on him, but the background, inexplicably, zooms OUT.



The second is being used very heavily in newer documentaries. An old photograph is split apart so it looks like it's in 3D, and then the different pieces are moved seperately to give the illusion of movement.

Again,

Now, the second one is obviously done with computers, but I'd love to understand how it's done. I simply have no earthly clue how they do the first one, though.
11/19/2005 7:17:54 AM EDT
[#1]
I think the first one is done with a combination of zooming and dollying (physically moving the camera closer to or further from the subject).  But that's just a guess on my part...I've never actually tried it.
11/19/2005 7:22:49 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
I think the first one is done with a combination of zooming and dollying (physically moving the camera closer to or further from the subject).  But that's just a guess on my part...I've never actually tried it.



I think you're right, the whole camera moves.
11/19/2005 7:35:01 AM EDT
[#3]

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I think the first one is done with a combination of zooming and dollying (physically moving the camera closer to or further from the subject).  But that's just a guess on my part...I've never actually tried it.



Yep. Alfred Hitchcock perfected it way back in his hay day.
I used the effect a lot with my films in college.
11/19/2005 7:42:00 AM EDT
[#4]
The first one is easy.... you zoom in on the object first.  Then physically move closer to the object while zooming out.   Neat effect.  


The second one, is probably digital manipulation.  Not easily done.
11/19/2005 7:43:53 AM EDT
[#5]

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The first one is easy.... you zoom in on the object first.  Then physically move closer to the object while zooming out.   Neat effect.  



Does the effect work because the background remains out of focus or something?
11/19/2005 7:53:31 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The first one is easy.... you zoom in on the object first.  Then physically move closer to the object while zooming out.   Neat effect.  



Does the effect work because the background remains out of focus or something?



Nah.  See, when you zoom in on something, everything moves closer, so it appears.  Then when you physically move closer while zooming out... your target object can stay just about the same size in the frame, depending on how fast you move and zoom out.  If it's done right, the target object stays the same size, and it gives just the appearance of everything else moving away.  
11/19/2005 10:43:05 AM EDT
[#7]
The second effect is likely an effect similar to the bullet time camera effect that seems to be in vogue these days. That's the one where the subject freezes and the camera pans around him 360 degrees. You could simply shoot an old photograph from multiple angles and manipulate the 3d effect on a computer.
11/19/2005 10:51:29 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I think the first one is done with a combination of zooming and dollying (physically moving the camera closer to or further from the subject).  But that's just a guess on my part...I've never actually tried it.



Yes, that's how it's done. You can do it easily with a handheld camera if you're careful.  I've done it and have been very successful at it.
11/19/2005 10:55:08 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The first one is easy.... you zoom in on the object first.  Then physically move closer to the object while zooming out.   Neat effect.  



Does the effect work because the background remains out of focus or something?



Proximity to the subject changes the relative size of the background and subject.  It also changes the absolute size of the subject, however, so you have to zoom in while moving back or zoom out while moving forward in order to keep the subject the same size.