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11/4/2005 6:41:46 PM EDT
Anybody wasted thier $$$ on this flick yet?

I haven't been to the theater since Forest Gump, but me & the wife decided to go see "Jarhead" this evening. I didn't like the book, but I figured I would give the movie version a shot.

What a waste of time & cash.

What a shitbird? Old dude would have been kicked out of my units. And I sure a hell wouldn't have spoken to my SNCO's like they portrayed in the movie.

I guess my biggest problem is John Q public might get the impression that all Marines are the like those portrayed in the movie, and the the professionals were really are.

Got to give Jamie Foxx credit, he did do a pretty good job as a SSGT.

LMK what ya'll think!

Semper FI
11/4/2005 6:46:14 PM EDT
[#1]
Somebody already has a review up of it.
11/4/2005 6:47:39 PM EDT
[#2]


I knew it would be total bullshit.

This "movie" goes in with M. mooores "movies".
11/4/2005 6:50:59 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:

I guess my biggest problem is John Q public might get the impression that all Marines are the like those portrayed in the movie, and the the professionals were really are.




I understand that is exactly what this movie is supposed to do -- smear the Marines
It is after all still Hollywood. And while they cant do it outright or as public as they used to the actors and producers/directors disdain for the American fighting man is plain as day--there area few notable exceptions of course but by and large they dont hesitate to piss all over our armed forces at the every chance they get.
11/4/2005 7:02:34 PM EDT
[#4]
I just saw it.    I wanted to see the guns, and ignore all that talking crap, but there were no guns.  I didn't read the book, so I wanted to know what it was all about.  
11/4/2005 7:05:26 PM EDT
[#5]
But it has some cool sounding music in the commercials. Seriously though, I haven't seen it, but I want to. If just to make my own mind up about it. I've seen a lot of stinkers that are probably worse.

Tears of the sun.

I was in the Corps when Heartbreak Ridge was coming out. It was supposed to premier in Ocean Side Ca & the powers that be were going to donate $50,000 to the servicemens YMCA in OceanSide. After previewing the movie, the Corps decided to pull it's support, as they felt it put a bad light on the Corps, so it premiered somewhere else.

I still watch it once in awhile. I know it wasn't accurate when they showed Recon as a group of sh!tbirds.
11/4/2005 7:15:22 PM EDT
[#6]
Part of it was filmed here and I have friends in it, so watching the mess is mandatory....
11/4/2005 7:17:37 PM EDT
[#7]
Im going to watch it,
11/4/2005 7:18:53 PM EDT
[#8]
I thought it would be good, I guess I should know better. I wont waste the money.
11/4/2005 7:20:34 PM EDT
[#9]
I think we need an offical JARHEAD thread.

I know this Jarhead is skipping out on it. I am not feeding them.
11/4/2005 7:22:58 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

I still watch it once in awhile. I know it wasn't accurate when they showed Recon as a group of sh!tbirds.



They showed 'Marines' from 2nd Mar Div in Cali, that should be enough to pull support

And like Recon ever marched infront of Majors on a grass field

Model A Ford and a tank full of gas.....
11/4/2005 7:32:53 PM EDT
[#11]
just saw it, and althouigh i could not say that i liked it, somthing was just off about the movie, there were hints of truth in the story but for the most part it just seemd odd,

half the movie i felt let just smaking the piss out of him, telling him to suck it up,

form my expierience with 2/7 STA I am still trying to figure out what the hell welcom to the suck means, oh and also they were way off on thier indoc

but none the less Jammie Fox did a great job,
11/4/2005 7:36:52 PM EDT
[#12]
Damn Hollywood Marines
11/4/2005 7:42:13 PM EDT
[#13]
Hmmmmmm.... I wonder why it got between 3 1/2 and 4 stars in all the reviews then?

Perhaps it's the "been there done that" crowd here that know better?  The uniforms were wrong.  That's not the way "We" did it in the Corps.  It's a damn movie for God's sake

I'm still going to see it at the matinee tomorrow afternoon and make up my own mind.
11/4/2005 8:03:54 PM EDT
[#14]
I talked to a colleague tonight who was a marine and did his time in Vietnam. He went to the 6:45 showing. He highly recommended the movie. *shrug*

I'll be going tomorrow night.

eta: he said that after I get done watching it, I'll be asking for a high and tight.
11/4/2005 8:04:33 PM EDT
[#15]
We called it the "suck" all the time.

11/4/2005 8:05:37 PM EDT
[#16]
The booked sucked...I won't give that EX-Marine shitbird any more of my time or money.
11/4/2005 8:05:58 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I just saw it.    I wanted to see the guns, and ignore all that talking crap, but there were no guns.  I didn't read the book, so I wanted to know what it was all about.  



buy a copy of Jane's?
11/4/2005 8:17:57 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
The booked sucked...I won't give that EX-Marine shitbird any more of my time or money.



+1
11/4/2005 8:28:50 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Hmmmmmm.... I wonder why it got between 3 1/2 and 4 stars in all the reviews then?




Not in the hyperliberal Boston Globe- they really panned it in today's newspaper, saying it was unrealistic and came off as a leftwing propaganda piece. In other words, the moviemakers weren't subtle enough in their anti-military diatribe.......


A boot-camp fatality early in ''Jarhead" is treated so cavalierly by Staff Sergeant Sykes (Jamie Foxx) that you're kicked right out of the movie. In reality -- and ''Jarhead" does play by the nominal rules of reality, at least until the final act -- there would be an investigation, a possible court martial, and some nasty media coverage, much as there was in the case of the drowning death of Private Jason Tharp at Parris Island this past February. Here everyone shrugs and moves on to the next obstacle course. Call this what you will -- righteous anti-military indignation, left-wing propaganda, sloppy filmmaking -- it simply doesn't square



What does war even mean when the killers have nothing to do -- when the killing is done by men far away and high above?

That's an ugly and pertinent question, and when ''Jarhead" stops to consider it, the movie's strong stuff. When it tries to rub our noses in the testosterone paradoxes of life in the armed forces -- like that gleeful, defiant group dry-hump that ends the football game -- it's less convincing. Swofford's book has been attacked by some Marines as a betrayal and an exaggeration (and defended by others), but it's extremely well-written, and the fear and uncertainty at its core has the ring of emotional truth. The film dilutes that core with borrowed movie moments before belatedly finding its stride, and its failure to connect suggests that the time for fictional war movies may be past --



www.boston.com/ae/movies/articles/2005/11/04/killing_time/

11/4/2005 8:29:41 PM EDT
[#20]
That whole fuckin movie was one big "suck"!
11/4/2005 8:34:33 PM EDT
[#21]
A few dudes in my platoon went to go see it today. Came back and said it was crap. I was going to go see it tomarrow, but no thanks, lol.
11/4/2005 8:37:17 PM EDT
[#22]
I liked the movie, even if it was a cock-tease (if you've seen it you know what I mean).  I'm just a an Army ROTC cadet so I don't know sh!t about the Corps, but it was obviously lacking respect of ranking individuals and so on.  

I gotta admit, parts of it were hilarious!!!
I'd recommend the movie...
11/4/2005 8:43:52 PM EDT
[#23]
That sucks.  I was looking foward to seeing it.  How about a poll for people who have seen it, to recommend it or not?
11/4/2005 8:48:12 PM EDT
[#24]
It was a movie people.  What did you fucking expect.  I thought it was good.  Get a life.

11/4/2005 8:50:12 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I still watch it once in awhile. I know it wasn't accurate when they showed Recon as a group of sh!tbirds.



They showed 'Marines' from 2nd Mar Div in Cali, that should be enough to pull support

And like Recon ever marched infront of Majors on a grass field

Model A Ford and a tank full of gas.....



2ndMarDiv in Cali huh?  They should have paid for some better technical advisors.
11/4/2005 8:56:41 PM EDT
[#26]
Having read the book, and quitting about the halfway post due to nausea, there is no way I’m going to see the movie.
He tried to kill himself in the book.  I wish he had been successful in his attempt.
11/4/2005 9:15:25 PM EDT
[#27]
having not read the book or seen the movie, how does a Marine try to kill himself? Doesn't seem like it would be all that hard considering all the things at his disposal.
11/4/2005 9:17:41 PM EDT
[#28]
I'm looking forward to seeing it, although I'll probably wait for the DVD.
11/4/2005 9:18:45 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
I'm looking forward to seeing it, although I'll probably wait for the DVD.

11/4/2005 9:32:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Flame me if you will.......The wife and I enjoyed it and put it on our must buy DVD list. It was entertaining. Both of us are Veterans, me a two time combat Veteran. Not real in all aspects of course but worth the $8.50 in my book. Also it wasn't too anti war, I was surprised.
11/4/2005 9:33:24 PM EDT
[#31]
I had not problems with the movie at all.
11/4/2005 9:37:19 PM EDT
[#32]
It was good. Remember its hollywood and for entertainment, not real life footage.
11/4/2005 11:44:22 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
I am still trying to figure out what the hell welcom to the suck means...



It's just a slang term for the Marine Corps. It's used (or was used, I don't know if it's still common)when your life in the Corps is sucking or when you are recalling bad times in the Corps. We often referred to the Corps as "The Suck". Life in the USMC, in spite of the "every day is a holiday, every meal is a feast" B.S., is just like life anywhere else. It's has it's up's and down's. The Corps sometimes promises big and delivers very little. Other times it promises nothing and gives you the world.

Example; When your are laying on a beach under a coconut palm with an ice cold San Miguel in one hand and an LBFM in the other, it's "1,2,3,4 I love the Marine Corps". When your are in a fighting hole in Korea in February at 0300, it's "fuck the suck".
11/5/2005 12:00:18 AM EDT
[#34]
I just saw it.  Thought it was good.  Just finished serving four in July.  I guess maybe I was in a whole different military, that or Im dilusional or...others are dilusional.  To me it accurately portrayed the mental aspects.  It might not be the majority, but it exists.  I do notice that it seems that the opinions on the movie (by veterans) are dependent on the length of service of the reviewer and their overall experience.  I'm out for a reason, it's not the same military my father served in.  But, I'm not down playing those who are going to serve or are serving.  I made the choice, so have/will many others.  (please don't flame me just because you were one of those guys that cared more about looking good to the uppers than their own)
11/5/2005 12:25:51 AM EDT
[#35]
Wow that fucking sucked.  It came from hollyweird so what could i expect.
11/5/2005 12:34:23 AM EDT
[#36]
I read the book and it gave me the impression that the guy is a puss. I'll wait for DVD.
11/5/2005 12:35:13 AM EDT
[#37]
The book was awesome... I was worried how Hollywood would fuck it up, from the 1st scene I wanted to leave.
11/5/2005 12:55:47 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
I think we need an offical JARHEAD thread.

I know this Jarhead is skipping out on it. I am not feeding them.



+10000
11/5/2005 1:18:24 AM EDT
[#39]
Movie Forum
11/5/2005 6:32:35 AM EDT
[#40]
Good, bad, I don't give a shit.

Swofford is a dirtbag who won't be getting a dime of my money.
11/5/2005 6:46:04 AM EDT
[#41]
Not therapuetic in any sense...just validation I guess...some of the shit I've felt since Grenada and DS/DS all makes sense...I enjoyed the movie...pretty accurate portrayal I thought...Swoffard was just a little more introspective than most...yes he's a little antiwar...probably feeling cheated he didnt get his...Poll 100 Marines about the Suck adn its 1,2,3,4 I love the marine Corps when things were good but when things were a F*&ked up it was the SUCK... I enjoyed the movie...
11/5/2005 3:57:45 PM EDT
[#42]
The movie was pretty damn good. Not FJM or Platoon great, but it is very well made and directed. If you cannot say the movie touched you, provoked thought, or stunned you, you must be a hollow soul. Most just follow the ARF.com crowd and go into the movie with the 'I am going to hate it no matter what attitude', or will find one part they hate, or one message they disagree with and report that the movie 'sucked ass'.  I must be the only one of the board who enjoyed the book, and the movie was very thought provoking and entertaining. I will be buying DVD.

Thats all.
11/5/2005 4:00:35 PM EDT
[#43]
My brother saw it.  He said there were no combat scenes.

Why make a war movie with no combat scenes?
11/5/2005 4:11:41 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
My brother saw it.  He said there were no combat scenes.





11/5/2005 4:20:27 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:

Quoted:
My brother saw it.  He said there were no combat scenes.





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I dunno, that's just what he told me.  "There was no fighting in it."
11/5/2005 4:21:06 PM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
Good, bad, I don't give a shit.

Swofford is a dirtbag who won't be getting a dime of my money.



I wont go to the movie or buy the DVD because that POS shitbird Swofford would benefit; but I would buy the DVD at a flea market and take it to the range and use it as a target.
11/5/2005 4:23:15 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
My brother saw it.  He said there were no combat scenes.





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I dunno, that's just what he told me.  "There was no fighting in it."



There was no ground combat in it. And all the "M16's" were really AR-15's (if you pay close attention.)
11/5/2005 4:32:58 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
We called it the "suck" all the time.




+1

I dont plan on wasting my money to see this piece of shit...


LB
11/5/2005 4:44:35 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:
My brother saw it.  He said there were no combat scenes.

Why make a war movie with no combat scenes?



Because it follows/is about that dirtbag Swofford.. and Swofford did not see combat.

I thought the movie sucked.  The part that 'touched' me the most was when the dude saw his wife on the tape she sent him.

Waste of my money.

11/5/2005 5:30:37 PM EDT
[#50]
Critics gave this movie an average of B,B+?? John Q public gave it a B??

The movie started out fine with bootcamp. it just went downhill with no direction or purpose and used all the previous war movie cliches.