Posted: 11/2/2005 1:03:32 PM EDT
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I have finally decided what my main Zombie weapon will be. I am going to settle for a 9mm carbine. I can carry a lot more ammo, its easier to come across and the lower noise will make indoor usage less of a hinderance. Yes I want Steyr Augs Zombie gun but I just dont have the cash for that. So what should I settle for? Remember I need to be able to get spare hi cap mags no problem AR in 9mm (is it just a switch of the upper to do that?) Beretta Storm? Ruger PC9) (becuase I can get my hands on plenty of decent high cap mags for it.) Other? |
I will admit I am leaning heavily to the Ctorm but the AR platform is very familiar. |
OK then, a 9mm AR. RRA complete rifle or upper. link |
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.223 weighs the same as 9mm preformance at close and long range .223 out preforms 9mm AR mags in .223 commonly found while scavenging the world of the dead some all ready loaded by previous owners. silencers availible for .223 .223 wins hands down 9mm is a poor rifle round past 50 yards and is like shooting a buffalo gun at 100 yards in the amount of elevation you have to compensate for just to make a hit on a siloute target and that may not even be a head shot which is required in this case. |
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I had a Storm. There's nothing to them that you can't master in 15 minutes with the manual. They are small, light and well built. I traded mine after I got my USC (I was just kidding about knowing where you can get one) because I didn't feel the need to have 2 pistol caliber carbines. The Storm is light, compact, relatively inexpensive and can use the standard AR accessories (optics, lights, fore end grips, etc.). |
I have thought into this and 5.56 does look enticing. BUT I am going to have to go for the extra ammo at the ready and sacrifice 50-100meters off my range. Headshots are required awe all agree but a human head responds well to a 9mm very well. The documentaries show that the slow classic shuffling walking zombie virus is the most likely strain of virus to be encountered and I will take my chances and use the slow reaction time of the undead to aim for their heads at distances over 50m. I plan on zeroing at 50. If I encounter the running strain of infection then I wont have time to aim anyway so I am not worried about well placed shots ona pack of running spazzing out zombies.. Yes the running virus scares the crap out of me and I plan on running more than anything in that case. I can only hope its the virus like the one in England like in SODT. If thats the case I will opt for my CZ75 as my primary and keep the carbine slung. I do appreciate the input you are offering and I am glad someone takes the threat seriously. I will stick to the 9mm decision still. |
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Obviously the AR-9mm is winning; no surprise given the board, but let us consider the options. Storm Advantages: shorter: if we are not SBRing anything, then the storm is a wee bit shorter since the barrel is closer to the trigger and pistol grip. common mags: if you are using a beretta pistol, then you gain the advantage of using your sidearm magazines if you run low on your 20 round magazines for the storm; beats being forced to switch to your sidearm, or spend time taking 9mm out of one type of mag and putting it another. cheaper: face it we all have a budget, for a couple of slightly used storms you could only get one AR 9mm; this leaves out extras like optics streamlined: the AR is just to much extra gun for 9mm than the storm; there is just extra gun on the thing, a mag well is a perfect example; you've established you want light weight and compact ammo to carry more, then this should be a factor in your weapon as well AR 9mm Advantages: modularity: its an AR nuff said NFA: you can more easily SBR the thing since it has shorter handguards, or its possible find (if you have the scratch) a NFA auto lower to build a 9mm SMG on 4 vs 2, Storm wins 
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1. I forgot to mention that chicks (alive as well as undead) really dig the sexy Italian lines of the Storm. As breeding stock will be at a premium in a zombie outbreak situation, that's an important consideration. 2. AFAIK, colt_5_5_6 is the only person ever to express concern about dealing with zombie buffalos. Frankly, a zombie buffalo would scare the crap out of me. Big. Thick skull. No residual memories of pumping gas or using tools to distract them. Why has this issue not been addressed before!?!?!?!? Or did I misread colt_5_5_6's post? |
THIS IS JUST GREAT!! Now I have to worry about zombie buffaloes?! I never even considered that. Can sharks become zombies? I think the scariest thing I can think of would be a zombie elephant with a zombie shark on its back trampling and biting everything in its path. Put that one in your pipe and smoke it. |
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Benelli M1 Tactical with pistol grip and ghost rings. By gooly I just happen to have one of those. 8+1 round of 00 Buck with a mag dump in about 2.5 seconds. A much larger spread so you could get close to hitting a zombie in the head and it will down. It would just blow the head off a zombie and there will be no mistake of a wounded one coming back to life. Knock down power! |
I concur. The whole idea of a good zombie gun is to keep them at a safe distance! The ideal setup would be a good AR or FAl with the shotgun slung on your back for when the shit really hits the fan. |
Gonna have to stay with 9mm. I live in a libtard County. Hardly any stores carry 5.56mm. Yes I am stocked up but I cant move out and expect to find more that easily. 9mm is everywhere though. Gonna have to stay with the 9mm choice even though I wouldnt mind 5.56. Its just not really a viable option, well not as much as the 9mm. Looks like I may go AR, but man that Storm looks and feels sweet What mags does the AR take? Uzi mags? their own bastardized mags? I can find plenty of good Beretta mags so thats still enticing. As far as the AR. I can put my accessories from my 5.56 onto it but the Storm looks like it will take the front grip and Red Dot.
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I'd have to go with the PC9. I have one sitting in the safe at the moment, and like it. Granted I'm getting ready to trade it off, but my wife is not happy about it. Although if I had to carry a rifle around all day, the PC9 is NOT it. Very freaking heavy. Granted you could use it as a club in the event of a critical ammo shortage, but I would still prefer an AR in the .223 variety..... GT An AR, an '06, and a Winchester 1300.... |
| what I meant is the 9mm has a bad tajectory at any real distance. Now for zombie buffalos a 223/5.56 would be too small. We have to atleast step up to a .30-06 for those if not a .300WSM as a minimum. For over all zombie defense AR15 in 223/5.56 is the way to go when they are closer than 50 yds they are too close and you may all ready be surrounded. All so a good optic for distance shooting is a must along with a red dot for close quarters and building clearing. |
as far as shamblers vs sprinters, my friends I am afraid when the pandemic hits sprinters are here first and shamblers come second. After the 4-5 day incubation period of course. Please refer to the latest training films and lititure at morningstar.com. this will work in the event you have no fire arms available
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