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10/23/2005 11:33:15 AM EDT
I have to write a persuasive paper on why Americans should have the right to bear arms.  But here's the catch.  I have to write it in the mind-set of the year 1789 and as if I am writing to my congressman.
So, I need ideas and pointers of what to put in my paper.
Thanks for the help!
10/23/2005 11:38:23 AM EDT
[#1]
easy

read about the revolutionary war and how it was fought.

go from there.
10/23/2005 11:41:07 AM EDT
[#2]
You live out in the middle of nowhere. No phone. No internet. No alarm system.

Your friendly neighborhood Indian, bear, or white scumbag comes through your door while you, your wife, and your kids are having dinner.

Ask your idiot teacher where "CALL 911!!!" would apply in that situation.


ETA: Oh, and there's no supermarket. Try hunting deer with a rock when there is no other source of meat.
10/24/2005 11:01:13 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
You live out in the middle of nowhere. No phone. No internet. No alarm system.

Your friendly neighborhood Indian, bear, or white scumbag comes through your door while you, your wife, and your kids are having dinner.

Ask your idiot teacher where "CALL 911!!!" would apply in that situation.


ETA: Oh, and there's no supermarket. Try hunting deer with a rock when there is no other source of meat.



also, the war started over the british attempt at gun/weapons control/seizure.
10/24/2005 11:03:22 PM EDT
[#4]
Just give her a copy of the second amendment as written.

Persuasive enough then...
10/24/2005 11:11:05 PM EDT
[#5]
Early 911 was "One if by land and two if by sea"

There wasn't a police force back then either. People probably also felt they could protect themselves better than King George's men could.

Quote Thomas Jefferson. Not too many history teachers, liberal or not, will take on old Tom.


"For a people who are free and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security. It is, therefore, incumbent on us at every meeting [of Congress] to revise the condition of the militia and to ask ourselves if it is prepared to repel a powerful enemy at every point of our territories exposed to invasion... Congress alone have power to produce a uniform state of preparation in this great organ of defense. The interests which they so deeply feel in their own and their country's security will present this as among the most important objects of their deliberation."
--Thomas Jefferson: 8th Annual Message, 1808. ME 3:482

"None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important." --Thomas Jefferson, 1803.

"It is more a subject of joy [than of regret] that we have so few of the desperate characters which compose modern regular armies. But it proves more forcibly the necessity of obliging every citizen to be a soldier; this was the case with the Greeks and Romans and must be that of every free State. Where there is no oppression there can be no pauper hirelings." --Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, 1813.

"A well-disciplined militia, our best reliance in peace and for the first moments of war till regulars may relieve them, I deem [one of] the essential principles of our Government, and consequently [one of] those which ought to shape its administration."
--Thomas Jefferson: 1st Inaugural, 1801.

"[The] governor [is] constitutionally the commander of the militia of the State, that is to say, of every man in it able to bear arms." --Thomas Jefferson to A. L. C. Destutt de Tracy, 1811.

"Uncertain as we must ever be of the particular point in our circumference where an enemy may choose to invade us, the only force which can be ready at every point and competent to oppose them, is the body of neighboring citizens as formed into a militia. On these, collected from the parts most convenient, in numbers proportioned to the invading foe, it is best to rely, not only to meet the first attack, but if it threatens to be permanent, to maintain the defence until regulars may be engaged to relieve them."
--Thomas Jefferson: 1st Annual Message, 1801. ME 3:334

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
--Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824.

"One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them."
--Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. ME 9:341


"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the Body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind . . . Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."
--Thomas Jefferson, Letter to his nephew Peter Carr, August 19, 1785.

"No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms (within his own lands or tenements)."
--Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution with (his note added), 1776. Papers, 1:353

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
--Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment (1764).

"We must train and classify the whole of our male citizens, and make military instruction a regular part of collegiate education. We can never be safe till this is done."
--Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, 1813.

"I think the truth must now be obvious that our people are too happy at home to enter into regular service, and that we cannot be defended but by making every citizen a soldier, as the Greeks and Romans who had no standing armies; and that in doing this all must be marshaled, classed by their ages, and every service ascribed to its competent class."
--Thomas Jefferson to John Wayles Eppes, 1814



I highlighted a few words and in one instance the whole quote... This is why they needed arms in 1789 and still to this day... Tom was a visionary..
10/24/2005 11:27:18 PM EDT
[#6]
why 1789?
10/24/2005 11:31:40 PM EDT
[#7]
Easy--read Federalist #46 (Madison) and plagarize heavily.
10/24/2005 11:34:25 PM EDT
[#8]


“Resistance to sudden violence, for the preservation not only of my person, my
limbs, and life, but of my property, is an indisputable right of nature which I have
never surrendered to the public by the compact of society, and which perhaps, I
could not surrender if I would."
-John Adams, Boston Gazette, Sept. 5, 1763





“[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans
possess over the people of almost every other nation...[where] the governments are
afraid to trust the people with arms.”
-James Madison



Both are from Gunfacts.info; and the former highlights the obvious but oft-ignored fact that the 2nd amendment was as much about personal defense as national defense.
10/24/2005 11:35:27 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
why 1789?



March 4 - At Federal Hall in New York City, the first U.S. Congress meets and declares the new Constitution of the United States to be in effect.

September 25 - The United States Congress proposes a set of twelve amendments for ratification by the states. Ratification for ten of these proposals is completed on December 5, 1791, creating the United States Bill of Rights. An additional proposal is ratified more than two centuries later in 1992.
10/25/2005 12:32:07 AM EDT
[#10]
is that the reason?
10/25/2005 4:36:06 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
You live out in the middle of nowhere. No phone. No internet. No alarm system.

Your friendly neighborhood Indian, bear, or white scumbag comes through your door while you, your wife, and your kids are having dinner.

Ask your idiot teacher where "CALL 911!!!" would apply in that situation.


ETA: Oh, and there's no supermarket. Try hunting deer with a rock when there is no other source of meat.




That's about graphic enough to send most 'krats into shakes'n shivers.  Oh yeah...and no social feel good programs either.
10/25/2005 6:22:01 AM EDT
[#12]
The Bill of Rights were pretty much reactions to crimes of the British on the Americans.  You should go back to that period and see what was happening and how being armed enabled American's to come to arms and revolt against Great Britian.

Patty
10/25/2005 6:49:35 AM EDT
[#13]
Remember that the cities of the time were not safe places.  There was no street lighting.  Men today still walk (when they walk) on the street side of their ladies to protect them.  Also knives were much more prevalent than after cartridge weapons came into use.   You had one or maybe two shots and then it was down to clubs and knives.  
10/25/2005 7:05:45 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Ask your idiot teacher where "CALL 911!!!" would apply in that situation.




How do you know the teacher is an idiot?  


AB
10/25/2005 7:23:18 AM EDT
[#15]
Put yourself in the life of a person of the era, your life revolves around the church, the preachers have been preaching liberty for 150 years, you are a decendant of the original colonists and the militia has been the only protection of you and your family and community.
There is no governent other than you and your country men.

Read rebels and Read coats by George F Scheer and Hugh F Rankin, The American Revolution Throught the Eyeys of those who Fought and Lived it.

(its in their own words and spelling)