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10/14/2005 11:25:30 AM EDT
OK, let's say you are stuck in a situation where you have to go someplace that doesn't allow any firearms all (or mace/pepper spray), for an extended period of time. However, it seems that the liberals in charge overlooked folding pocket knives. What would you take with you?

Is a CRKT M16-13LE enough for defensvie use? The blade just doesn't seem long enough.
10/14/2005 11:27:28 AM EDT
[#1]
I have a CRKT 3" spear point M16-01T
10/14/2005 11:28:24 AM EDT
[#2]
Yes.
10/14/2005 11:30:07 AM EDT
[#3]
Yes.  Spyderco Matriarch.
10/14/2005 11:36:01 AM EDT
[#4]
If all I could carry would be a knife, I would want it to look intimidating. This fits the bill nicely.
Spyderco Civilian
10/14/2005 11:38:28 AM EDT
[#5]


Is a CRKT M16-13LE enough for defensvie use? The blade just doesn't seem long enough.



3.5" blade is plenty lethal.
10/14/2005 11:40:46 AM EDT
[#6]
I carry my Strider SnG.  If that isn't enough, you could get a Strider SMF.

from tadgear.com:


10/14/2005 11:49:37 AM EDT
[#7]
I'm flying-out to San Jose on Sunday. This very same question has been on my mind for sometime. I'd like to take one of my nicer knives, but I'm just gonna take the Kershaw Vapor instead. I won't cry too much if something happens to it. It's sharp and will get the job done.
10/14/2005 11:54:50 AM EDT
[#8]
Well, since I can't CCW because of my age to begin with, all I am armed with is FOX and this bad boy:



This seems that it would fit most any job I could throw at it.
10/14/2005 12:02:14 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
OK, let's say you are stuck in a situation where you have to go someplace that doesn't allow any firearms all (or mace/pepper spray), for an extended period of time. However, it seems that the liberals in charge overlooked folding pocket knives. What would you take with you?

Is a CRKT M16-13LE enough for defensvie use? The blade just doesn't seem long enough.



First and foremost, learn what you are doing.
Army Combatives manual

A reference

Do you want a stabbing or cutting weapon?
Folder or not?
What grip preference do you have?
10/14/2005 12:15:33 PM EDT
[#10]
Targets

Pat attention to the circulatory system, arteries are your main targets with a knife.  Also what you prefer to attack determines the best weapon for the job.


Arteries are the Carotid(neck), Brachial(between bicep and tricep), and femoral(inside thigh).
P.O.I.- Kidneys(causes shock), liver(the body's filter) Heart(peirce it bloodflow stops) lungs(fills with blood when peirced) Occipital lobe (base o da skull, stops all motor function) Groin (femoral arteries join here, requires upward stroke>>Difficult<<)
10/14/2005 12:19:06 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
OK, let's say you are stuck in a situation where you have to go someplace that doesn't allow any firearms all (or mace/pepper spray), for an extended period of time. However, it seems that the liberals in charge overlooked folding pocket knives. What would you take with you?

Is a CRKT M16-13LE enough for defensvie use? The blade just doesn't seem long enough.



That would depend on you, a little knife training goes a long way. Some people would be defenseless with a 36" Katana in their hand while some of us are quite deadly with a empty hand.
10/14/2005 12:23:16 PM EDT
[#12]
I carry a Spyderco Civilian. It was purpose made for defense & it is also a great knife for cutting yourself out of a seatbelt if your are in an auto accident.
10/14/2005 12:23:36 PM EDT
[#13]
I would probably prefer no knife unless it was multiple attackers and I was trying to protect someone (ie family)
10/14/2005 12:24:21 PM EDT
[#14]
I carry one of these with me all the time, whether I have my pistol or not.



Top one is an Emerson Super SOCFK, bottom one is an Emerson QCQ-8.
10/14/2005 12:25:22 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
I carry a Spyderco Civilian. It was purpose made for defense & it is also a great knife for cutting yourself out of a seatbelt if your are in an auto accident.



I have one of those as well, great defensive knife, scares the sheep though - wicked looking blade.

10/14/2005 12:41:10 PM EDT
[#16]
Any knife if better than no knife but I seriously doubt that any threat you may be facing will be obeying the same law that you are attempting to abide by.  Concealed carry means concealed.
10/14/2005 12:44:10 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Any knife if better than no knife but I seriously doubt that any threat you may be facing will be obeying the same law that you are attempting to abide by.  Concealed carry means concealed.



My thoughts exactly.

Smaller gun.
10/14/2005 12:47:54 PM EDT
[#18]


Quoted:
First and foremost, learn what you are doing.



+1

That being said, if you can't carry a 3-3.5" fixed blade, I like the tool steel blade axis lock Benchmades.  Hard to sharpen and they can rust if not cared for, but they can take a finer edge that won't roll or chip.  And the axis lock is an extremely robust locking mechanism.
10/14/2005 12:52:12 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I carry one of these with me all the time, whether I have my pistol or not.

ouray.cudenver.edu/~resimon/EmersonKnives.jpg

Top one is an Emerson Super SOCFK, bottom one is an Emerson QCQ-8.



Tanto point looks very similar to my Benchmade Elishewitz.  

I like the Tanto for the do all/defensive blade...But again, I'm probably not very tactical
10/14/2005 1:37:42 PM EDT
[#20]
I just finished up a 2 day Close Quarters Handgun and Knife class.  I have taken 6 classes total from the same school in Brownsville, Oregon called Oregon Firearms Academy.  Before I took the class called "Close Encounters of the Worst Kind" I carried a CRKT M-16 14D.  After the class I ended up with 2 or 3 Benchmade Griptilians for a couple of reasons.  

First, one knife in each front pocket because you don't know which arm you will be able to fight with.  If the attacker somehow got his hand on your other arm, gun whatever you need the weak side to slash at his arm or neck.  The knife has good gripping strength while wet.  Benchmade's AXIS lock is hard to beat and probably the most positive locker out there.  

The other thing that I did not think of before the class is your knife if used to defend yourself will be held up in court for all the soccer mom's to see.  If it looks like a fighting knife you will be branded a criminal and looking to slice someone up with your serraded tanto point M-16.  Perception is a big one so pick accordingly.  Your knife will also most likely be taken from you so would you rather have the police take a $70 knife or a $300 knife?  And lastly what ever you pick, get 2 or 3 of the same thing.  I have a new respect for knives and anything that happens within 21 ft you would probably be better pulling your blade and get ready to defend yourself.  And take a class so you know how to defend yourself incase of an attack.  I carry 2 or 3 griptilians with me all the time pistol or no pistol.

Hope this helps.  I picked mine up at Bi-Mart for $70 each.  
10/14/2005 1:53:51 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
I just finished up a 2 day Close Quarters Handgun and Knife class.  I have taken 6 classes total from the same school in Brownsville, Oregon called Oregon Firearms Academy.  Before I took the class called "Close Encounters of the Worst Kind" I carried a CRKT M-16 14D.  After the class I ended up with 2 or 3 Benchmade Griptilians for a couple of reasons.  

First, one knife in each front pocket because you don't know which arm you will be able to fight with.  If the attacker somehow got his hand on your other arm, gun whatever you need the weak side to slash at his arm or neck.  The knife has good gripping strength while wet.  Benchmade's AXIS lock is hard to beat and probably the most positive locker out there.  

The other thing that I did not think of before the class is your knife if used to defend yourself will be held up in court for all the soccer mom's to see.  If it looks like a fighting knife you will be branded a criminal and looking to slice someone up with your serraded tanto point M-16.  Perception is a big one so pick accordingly.  Your knife will also most likely be taken from you so would you rather have the police take a $70 knife or a $300 knife?  And lastly what ever you pick, get 2 or 3 of the same thing.  I have a new respect for knives and anything that happens within 21 ft you would probably be better pulling your blade and get ready to defend yourself.  And take a class so you know how to defend yourself incase of an attack.  I carry 2 or 3 griptilians with me all the time pistol or no pistol.

Hope this helps.  I picked mine up at Bi-Mart for $70 each.  



Grip is one of the reasons that I love my Emersons. The G-10 handles on those are aboout as grippy as they come. I have heard very good things about the AXIS lock, but I am quite confident in  the abilty of the liner lock on the Emersons to keep the blade from closing.
10/14/2005 1:57:28 PM EDT
[#22]
This is a great question but I have to say I'm shocked that no one carries what I carry.....

I would never be caught with out my little toothpick!!!


What????  
10/14/2005 5:23:44 PM EDT
[#23]
Don’t know if it’d interest you – and I’m certainly not that knowledgeable about them – but a walking stick or a fighting cane might also be worth considering.

I assume you’re once again talking about DC.

Your best bet for survival there (as well as anywhere else) is situational awareness and not taking chances.  Nothing – not even a firearm – will take the place of that.

Stay in Virginia, visit DC only in the day and only in the decent areas, and you really should be OK.   I’ve known dozens of government workers who’ve commuted into DC for decades with nary a problem.

DC certainly has some very bad areas, but it’s not like you’re going to Baghdad!