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If all you can find in the news to bitch about is that teenagers are experimenting with oral sex, which they've done for HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of years...well, that's just pretty damn pathetic. With that said, I'm off to find myself a "slutty" 18 year old girl so I can get a "casual" blow job. |
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+1 Jesus it's like the town elders from Footloose started a gun board... I can just see The_Macallan ringing his hands in a dimly lit room, all John Lithgow and shit. |
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Yep, because no one would want a person who is nominally an adult to make their own decisions. Maybe we should just all keep our daughters locked up until we marry them off. Then we won't have to worry about it. |
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Maybe the taliban was on to something after all, right? |
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One word for you Bundling. Something like one third of all early Colonial brides were pregnant on the altar. |
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yup, see my earlier post. Fucking is the most natural thing there is. People will always do it, and they will always break rules to do it. |
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The same way the hippie love fests of the 60s effected the people sucked into them. It aint pretty. |
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No Shit! I wish people here would realize that we need to do EVERYTHING that the Europeans do -- genocide, world wars, bad hygiene, hairy pits and legs, gay marriage, you name it!! They're the best! |
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You are usually right on when it comes to political topics but this one is over the top. No one is going to abstane and the thought that someone will, is the extreme exception. I would far prefer kids having oral sex to unplanned pregnancies. I sure as hell would not have bought without trying her on for size, I doubt she would have either.
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What disturbed me most about that article was that there were no phone numbers.
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Oly, I think I have enough information to make a diagnosis now. |
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Ditto. 23 here. |
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+1 |
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Nice visual! To further this study I suggest we all go out and get as much oral sex from 18-19 year olds and ask them if they are doing it because of Bill Clinton... Remember do it for the children... Ok, that come out wrong EPOCH |
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OK, I'll grant you that. I haven't been able to find any info on google, but my understanding is premarital sex was looked down upon before the "sexual revolution" of the 60s. I was addressing that more with my comment (I have absolutely zero knowledge of sexual attitudes that far in the past). |
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Wait, the other half said they did not do BJs, but they lied, so that means they really did. So that means that ALL kids have had BJs. But you said that only half of all teens do it, so that must mean that the first half didn't. But they are the ones that actually did, so that means that the other half didn't, but they were lying, so that means they did, but then . . . Arrgh, my brain hurts. OK, I think I understand what you're saying. The half that DON'T have BJs said they do. Then the ones that DO do it are the ones that lied, and said they don't. Hey, taking your comment, that's the only explanation that works. |
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LOL |
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So what you're saying is, you are so shallow that if she wasn't a good lay you wouldn't have married her? Have you ever told her this? |
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Not at all a knock on you. But looked down upon does not mean that it wasn't done. Some of you seem to think that oral sex was invented in the 60's, and sensationalized by Bill Clinton. I don't think this type of statistic is at all a good thing, but those of you who seem so surprised by it really need to wake the hell up. Teens were having premarital sex long, long ago. And i'm betting they were doing it aplenty. We just didn't have cool media polls back then to capture it. No one bothered to go around and ask all the young ladies and men if they were having sex, oral or otherwise. As for higher rates of pregnancy? Easy. They were smarter back then. No one got pregnant, because you don't get pregnant from oral sex or sodomy. Ever hear of the sin of Onan? Seems to me that was a long time ago that people figured out how to pull out. The only thing that I see any verifiable proof of in this case, is the fact that lowered moral attitudes and lack of self-responsibility, in connection with feel-good, knee-jerk arguments have brought all this behaviour to light. I have zero doubt, in fact there is proof to be found, that these things have gone on for hundreds of years. No one ever talked about them, and few got caught. These days, it's not only perfectly 'acceptable' to be performing these activites, it's aparently 'acceptable' to talk about them in public, as well. And that's all I see here. *edit: spelling* |
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If getting a BJ back in highschool is enough to harm your (future) marriage then it's got some problems. I'd wager that most kids have "experimented" at some point. While society might try to say that you shouldn't have sex until your older, the fact remains that our bodies get ready for it at a younger age and so does the sex drive (at it's peak in males of the age group in the article). I'm not advocating kids sleeping around, far from it, but it's nothing new for kids to have done something sexual by the time they are in HS. I'm not saying it's wrong to wait for marriage at all, but it's naive to expect society as a whole to do it. |
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I completely agree with you that it has been done forever. Basically my thoughts on the issue are that we shouldn't just say "Since people have been doing it forever, let's just say it's okay." I think it should at least be discouraged, and we shouldn't be raising our kids to be promiscuous, even though many of them still will be anyway. Assuming the study is correct in that half of teens are having sex, at least there's another half that isn't. |
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+another 1. The fact that adults are included in this "survey" makes it even more useless. We always complain about how adults are included in "children killed"statistics and then go right around and use the same stats. 15-19 years having oral sex, I can't believe it's only 50%. I know what side I was on at 15, I guess I might be a complete sexual degenerate according to some here. Well considering the things I did from 17-25 maybe I am. |
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? If Shotar tells his wife that he wouldn't have married her if she wasn't a good lay, it would be a compliment. Where did you get your ideas about sexual compatibility not being important? |
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Actually I always though of it as more intimate... Much more. |
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Oh, agreed 100%. I merely took your post as an example to others. Some folks seem to think that because it wasn't talked about, it wasn't done. And I don't think you're that way, at all. Personally, I find it objectionable that anyone was even asking these children this. I realize that it is their god given right to solicit opinions as they see fit... But that fact that the moral fabric of society has decayed to the point where this question in open public is considered acceptable? Terrible. |
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Doesn't surprise me in the least.
Now a days.. if you're not giving/receiving/banging.. you're not in the "in crowd" in college. |
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That reminds me, I've been meaning to take some adult education courses... |
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Did I say that? My point was that he "test-drove" her before marrying her. In other words, it doesn't matter how good a person she is, if she's not a devil in the sack, to hell with her. That is most certainly NOT a compliment. Sex is not the most important part of a relationship. The relationship is. "Oh darling, you have such a wonderful personality, and every moment I'm with you I feel good. Our personalities go together like peanuts and salt. Each of us makes up for the other's shortcomings, and together we are stronger than both of us apart. But you suck at having sex, so I'm dumping your sorry ass." Would you be complimented if someone said that to you? |
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I should have been more specific, I was referencing a study comparing the United States to the UK, France, Denmark, and Sweden. The study did account for our larger poor population. |
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Wild guess: You're a virgin. |
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Over time if the people in the relationship are not sexually compatible, the relationship is going to go downhill. Imagine a prude married to Hugh Hefner. Not gonna work out, ya know? |
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What the hell does that have to do with anything? And if you read the rest of the thread, you'll see that it's no secret. And nice job of evading the question, but you're not out yet. Would that be a compliment? |
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I think you are onto something. |
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No one is going to come out and SAY it. But it's a good thing if they DID it, because eventually the sexual incompatibility will kill the relationship. |
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Not if the spiritual relationship has a good foundation. Sex is just the gravy, it is not the foundation. |
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What the hell does that have to do with anything? It has to do with your lack of qualifications to comment on the issue. |
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Normally i shrug off this Conservative whining about "the sex of the youth today" crap. You'd think it was 1968 all over again. But this has gone too far. You "so-called" christians can stuff that Ascetic, Anti-sex horseshit straight up your faggot ass. You're upset cause girls are giving blowjobs? What are you a faggot? Go eat some fag faeces you fag! Get it through your thick fat head, sex is normal! How hard is that to understand? And besides how can someone get preggers from oral sex anyhew? As long as there are no abortions are involved what do you care? How does having sex make you evil? or commit evil acts?
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Sex is a support pillar. If it's rotten, the structure will give way and the best foundation in the world won't keep the roof from falling in on your head. |
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Do you really think a prude would ever be interested in Hugh anyway? Besides, Hugh eats, drinks and breathes and lives sex. Of course a relationship without excellent sex wouldn't work out. |
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Would you say that sex is the #1 thing in a relationship? |
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OMG NEWSFLASH Teenagers have sex, news at 11. NEWSFLASH. Who gives a fuck, teenagers have been fucking since the dawn of time. |
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Exactly. How many 15 year old kids do you know who will openly admit that they're virgins? |
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No. But it's not last either and certainly not unimportant. |
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I agree its a support pillar. However, sex will get old (yes, its possible between two people). They need somethin else "going" for them other than that. |
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I was using an extreme example. I was just replying to the comment that sex was not important. |
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