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Posted: 9/3/2005 5:58:50 PM EDT

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It is public housing for welfare receipents. A lot of druggies live there. Gang ruled. The bottom of the barrel. Blocks and blocks of apartments. When I lived in NOLA, no white person went near them

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The Projects: democraps, liberals, socialism, blacks, illegal aliens, local/state/federal 'gubment housing, shoddy workmanship, few jobs, smells bad, drugs, prostitutes, gangs, lack of maintanance, lousy tenants, bad management, rats, whiners, welfare, and eventually torn down so that capitalism can revitalize the neighborhood.

I hate to burst your bubbles, but I am Black, have never lived in or near any project, or had any family that has. But I shoot with a guy, White, who was raised in the projects. <shrug>

Man, no kidding. I can see I should have checked back on this thread. Guys, my job takes me everywhere in my town and subsidized housing of all kinds is inhabited by all races--it AIN'T a "black thing." Geez.

Beekeeper is right.

Subsidized housing in IL is often times inhabited by single moms and the elderly. But Beekeeper, come on dude. If you know Chicago like the rest of us do, how can you say it's not almost all black? I don't even really think it's racist to say that most subsidized housing is Black, it's true. Maybe it's something we need to take a look at, but the non Liberal, cozy-tummy, Oprah show truth is 100% of Chicago's projects are black. Go find one non black resident of Cabrini Green and I will buy you a twelver.

Posted: 9/3/2005 6:00:03 PM EDT

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The "Projects" are D.N.C. voter breeding yards (Regardless of race).

It's really simple to understand. You reinforce the lowest acheivers in a given group to raise as many children as they can in the shortest amount of time so that THEY (Their offspring) can in-turn, maintain your party's position of power through the vote.

One of the greatest tradgedies of 20th century America is that so many decendants of slaves "Bought" that line of B**LS**T and ended-up marginalizing themselves as permanant "Victims"

Blacks in this country are being eclipsed (Socially and financially) by almost every other (Minority) group they compete with but they STILL want to play that SAME old Democratic song over and over again. It's a G*DDAMNED shame because, after the shit their forebearers had to endure, turning themselves (140 yrs AFTER the abolition of slavery) into the lib's foundation "Block" (Of voters) has only resulted in far too many of them living in situations most of us would'nt accept.

Posted: 9/3/2005 6:04:31 PM EDT

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I always hear that they are dangerous
and that outsiders should NOT enter

does that mean that the residents prey on each other
and how long has this been going on?

why would anyone want to KEEP living like that
it is not too difficult to get a cheap apartment SOMEWHERE

especially if you have two or three able bodied family members to pitch in

Posted: 9/3/2005 6:09:08 PM EDT

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Rant on projects, welfare, and subsidized housing: (And those who reside there)

Let's face facts: The vast majority of those who live in project housing, which is government subsidized housing, are on welfare as well, and most of them are undereducated blacks who are RARELY in the superior or above range according to standardized intellectual quotient tests. What ARE they, though?

Honestly, in general they are direct descendants of slaves....and at a certain time in history, those slaves were freed, but many didn't really know what to do with their freedom. They settled in little enclaves that weren't that different from the slave life they knew. Many decades later, there is still a disturbing similarity between the lives of those newly freed slaves and the people who live in the projects now.

They live together in an insular community. Like the slaves long ago.
They DO depend on handouts from "the man", whether "the man" is a slaveowner or the government.
They DO lack a solid educational background. Like the slaves long ago.
They work only as they MUST, in general. There is not a great deal of high energy entrepreneurship
to be found in the projects, except in certain illicit activities. Compare them to the slaves of the
past, who worked under orders and usually because they simply had no choice. THEIR work ethic
was mostly a matter of survival or was at least required to be decent so that they would be given
decent treatment.
They DO seem to have trouble making it on their own and making something really good out of their lives.

I see a lot of similarities between those who live in the projects and those who were once slaves.
But the big difference is, the slaves had no reasonable alternative. Those who live in the projects
seem to be unaware that they HAVE reasonable alternatives, if they choose to exploit them.

No flaming, please. This is a rant and a series of observations only.

CJ

Posted: 9/3/2005 6:46:25 PM EDT

[#5]

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Rant on projects, welfare, and subsidized housing: (And those who reside there)

Let's face facts: The vast majority of those who live in project housing, which is government subsidized housing, are on welfare as well, and most of them are undereducated blacks who are RARELY in the superior or above range according to standardized intellectual quotient tests. What ARE they, though?

Honestly, in general they are direct descendants of slaves....and at a certain time in history, those slaves were freed, but many didn't really know what to do with their freedom. They settled in little enclaves that weren't that different from the slave life they knew. Many decades later, there is still a disturbing similarity between the lives of those newly freed slaves and the people who live in the projects now.

They live together in an insular community. Like the slaves long ago.
They DO depend on handouts from "the man", whether "the man" is a slaveowner or the government.
They DO lack a solid educational background. Like the slaves long ago.
They work only as they MUST, in general. There is not a great deal of high energy entrepreneurship
to be found in the projects, except in certain illicit activities. Compare them to the slaves of the
past, who worked under orders and usually because they simply had no choice. THEIR work ethic
was mostly a matter of survival or was at least required to be decent so that they would be given
decent treatment.
They DO seem to have trouble making it on their own and making something really good out of their lives.

I see a lot of similarities between those who live in the projects and those who were once slaves.
But the big difference is, the slaves had no reasonable alternative. Those who live in the projects
seem to be unaware that they HAVE reasonable alternatives, if they choose to exploit them.

No flaming, please. This is a rant and a series of observations only.

CJ

and man are they ever creative in that endeavor........ been chasing bad guys for a while know and I never get over their ingenuity....if only it was directed toward somthing legit.......oh well without them I wouldnt have a job know would I ..............

Posted: 9/3/2005 7:16:38 PM EDT

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Rant on projects, welfare, and subsidized housing: (And those who reside there)

Let's face facts: The vast majority of those who live in project housing, which is government subsidized housing, are on welfare as well, and most of them are undereducated blacks who are RARELY in the superior or above range according to standardized intellectual quotient tests. What ARE they, though?

Honestly, in general they are direct descendants of slaves....and at a certain time in history, those slaves were freed, but many didn't really know what to do with their freedom. They settled in little enclaves that weren't that different from the slave life they knew. Many decades later, there is still a disturbing similarity between the lives of those newly freed slaves and the people who live in the projects now.

They live together in an insular community. Like the slaves long ago.
They DO depend on handouts from "the man", whether "the man" is a slaveowner or the government.
They DO lack a solid educational background. Like the slaves long ago.
They work only as they MUST, in general. There is not a great deal of high energy entrepreneurship
to be found in the projects, except in certain illicit activities. Compare them to the slaves of the
past, who worked under orders and usually because they simply had no choice. THEIR work ethic
was mostly a matter of survival or was at least required to be decent so that they would be given
decent treatment.
They DO seem to have trouble making it on their own and making something really good out of their lives.

I see a lot of similarities between those who live in the projects and those who were once slaves.
But the big difference is, the slaves had no reasonable alternative. Those who live in the projects
seem to be unaware that they HAVE reasonable alternatives, if they choose to exploit them.

No flaming, please. This is a rant and a series of observations only.

CJ

You seem to know these people and thier personal situations intimately, or you are making broad assumptions using your powers of observation.

~~No flame~~

Posted: 9/3/2005 7:17:23 PM EDT

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Man this is headed for the lock, but fast.

IBTL

Posted: 9/3/2005 7:21:18 PM EDT

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dont know about anybody else, but mine are observations made first hand working in these areas for numerous years..........

Posted: 9/3/2005 7:21:28 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Rant on projects, welfare, and subsidized housing: (And those who reside there)

Let's face facts: The vast majority of those who live in project housing, which is government subsidized housing, are on welfare as well, and most of them are undereducated blacks who are RARELY in the superior or above range according to standardized intellectual quotient tests. What ARE they, though?

Honestly, in general they are direct descendants of slaves....and at a certain time in history, those slaves were freed, but many didn't really know what to do with their freedom. They settled in little enclaves that weren't that different from the slave life they knew. Many decades later, there is still a disturbing similarity between the lives of those newly freed slaves and the people who live in the projects now.

They live together in an insular community. Like the slaves long ago.
They DO depend on handouts from "the man", whether "the man" is a slaveowner or the government.
They DO lack a solid educational background. Like the slaves long ago.
They work only as they MUST, in general. There is not a great deal of high energy entrepreneurship
to be found in the projects, except in certain illicit activities. Compare them to the slaves of the
past, who worked under orders and usually because they simply had no choice. THEIR work ethic
was mostly a matter of survival or was at least required to be decent so that they would be given
decent treatment.
They DO seem to have trouble making it on their own and making something really good out of their lives.

I see a lot of similarities between those who live in the projects and those who were once slaves.
But the big difference is, the slaves had no reasonable alternative. Those who live in the projects
seem to be unaware that they HAVE reasonable alternatives, if they choose to exploit them.

No flaming, please. This is a rant and a series of observations only.

CJ

You're gonna get it now.

I don't disagree by any means, but still, IBTL.

Posted: 9/3/2005 8:14:10 PM EDT

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what's the name of the member that rents out a bunch of section 8 apartments?
Slumlord?

Yup, the infamous dry docked stink pickle picture poster...

Posted: 9/3/2005 9:18:37 PM EDT

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I hate to burst your bubbles, but I am Black, have never lived in or near any project, or had any family that has. But I shoot with a guy, White, who was raised in the projects. <shrug>

Good for you! I know you wouldn't want to live next door to the black people in the projects, either. And I bet neither does your white friend.

Posted: 9/3/2005 9:25:03 PM EDT

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Blacks in this country are being eclipsed (Socially and financially) by almost every other (Minority) group they compete with but they STILL want to play that SAME old Democratic song over and over again.

Yep, you don't see Asians living in "the projects" en masse. Even if a 1st gen Asian gets here as a refugee, by the 2nd gen it's day jobs and traditional families. The highest median income to boot! Guess which political party Asians are gravitating to? Yep, the GOP.

Here's an interesting book that addresses the failure of socialist programs and how it destroys blacks!

Posted: 9/4/2005 5:21:03 AM EDT

[#13]

I made my statements based on DIRECT observations.

I spent a couple of years working mostly in a project-like area. I met many people living there,
got to know some of them, avoided others, never had any trouble, and derived my observations
by actually observing.

How about you?

CJ

Posted: 9/4/2005 8:03:48 PM EDT

[#14]

I am not really looking to debate the subject, but I think you -while qualifying your statement to some degree- were being a bit presumptous. But that's cool, we all have strong feelings and shouldn't shy away in order to be PC. We all know the saying, "Tell us how you really feel!"

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