Yo...Shooter1201...I wasn't talking sandbags and bipods. That's benchrest shooting and if you do that with your own loads, you can shoot some pretty tight groups. I'm talking what's practical. Try standing there, no sandbags and shoot about 60 rounds or so with some Sellier & Bellot. If all your shots wind up in a 1.5" group I would say you're doing pretty well. By all means...buy the best scope you can...why not? But, then...to what end? You can have a $1000 rifle with a $1500 Swarovski scope and your groups might be a hair tighter. My point is...what is reasonable and at what price? If the goal is teeny-tiny groups of bench rest shooting...have at it with your $400-500 Leupolds. However, I'll take a Leapers or BEC, shoot reasonably small groups from a standing position and be happy with those results. I've been shooting the same scope for almost four years, the groups are still the same and I'm very satisfied with the $30 I spent on that "cheap" scope. Since I just shoot at paper and don't have any desire to kill anything, this works very well for me. If, however, the whole idea of fun is to kill something that can't shoot back, then by all means please buy the best equipment you can. That's only right!