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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:08:08 AM EDT
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Meeting those 3 criteria in no way exculpates one from committing criminal trespass on the grounds of a public school. It might work that way in “Magical-Right-Wing-Bible-land”, but if the school’s located in America, weirdoes that feel the need to get arrested and spend the night in jail just to make a point won’t find themselves disappointed. A school official asks you to leave, it’s time to leave or face the consequences. It’s in the law. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:09:22 AM EDT
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Cant the school ask you to leave if you are a homosexual? |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:11:18 AM EDT
[#3]
Choose to live in MA, NY ,CA... you deserve it. Don't come cryin' to me dumbass. Move! I left Kali 4 years ago. Just do it! 
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:14:42 AM EDT
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Bullsh*t! Legal give me a break! Come between me and my two boys and who is going to raise them and teach them and see how fast I would slap a lawsuit on them! Please leave because we don't like your point of view? Thought police! Welcome to the police state! enough... 
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:16:55 AM EDT
[#5]
Its the law! I love it! What a dork! |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:18:50 AM EDT
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Not if you pay taxes apparently - guess teh gheys will all be selling their homes and moving into the schools (since they're public property and all). This guy should have made the cops TASER him before they took hime away - that really would have made headlines. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:20:09 AM EDT
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More military schools are needed. I'm getting tired of the homo tolerance bullshit.
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:20:14 AM EDT
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someone please explain to me why in the hell sexuality straight or otherwise needs to be taught at that age? the kids have absolutely no concept of what is being taught and anything beyond "bad touch" is nothing more than pushing an agenda to appease a group.
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:20:31 AM EDT
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Exactly. However, there are some things that should be left to the parents and others that should be left to the schools. Let the parents teach them about the birds and the bees and let the schools teach them the 3 R's. And teach them skills, like ironing, washing clothes, cooking etc. As far as the dad getting arrested, last time I checked, schools are funded by John Q Public's tax dollars. John Q Public has the right to know what his tax dollars are being used for. John Q Public also has the right to question or criticize, as he sees fit, if he feels that the public education that his tax dollars are going to is insufficient or inappropriate. So what's the problem? |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:26:23 AM EDT
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School vouchers and headcount based fed/state matching funds.
This kind of crap stops instantly. 
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:29:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:30:10 AM EDT
[#12]
Holy ****. Magical right wing bible land? You have issues.
Do you have kids? I am guessing no.
So who does the parent call when the school violates state law and policy? Hmm? Get a grip. Some folks know what it is like to have to try and combat a bunch of f*cktards in a particular school just to make that school do what they are SUPPOSED to do by rule of the school board. Some folks, obviously, do not. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:30:34 AM EDT
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Teach them to be good little communists early! 
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:34:37 AM EDT
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Well gee-golly...whatever happened to the old complaint from teachers and school administrators that parents never showed up or took any interest in their children's educations?
Oh...I can only assume that they really mean parents should show up and support whatever BS the school is spoon feeding their children these days. The sooner the public education system as it exists now goes bankrupt, the better! |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:36:56 AM EDT
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Strange, isn't it? They lament lack of parental involvement, but then when a parent gets involved in a non PC way, suddenly they become trespassers.
Now you are getting it! Schools exist to SERVE. Not to treat us like SERVANTS. If the school cocks up like this one did, you can bet the principal and I would have a long talk were my child involved.
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:40:16 AM EDT
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Because they didn't discuss sexuality........its showed a gay couple with children fixing dinner
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:44:12 AM EDT
[#17]
And that obviously sent Mr. Parker into a state of rage or arousal. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:46:29 AM EDT
[#18]
You're right. He had no other recourse but to spend a night in jail. It's so... crystal clear when you put it that way. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:50:24 AM EDT
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More bullsh*t created by the bad idea that schools should be publicly funded.
Shut down the public school system -- for the children. - CD |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:51:09 AM EDT
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Uh huh. They have a mission. The mission is to get them used to thinking that seeing two fags with kids is okay (it isn't). Then later they might ask about the sex issue. Do the schools then tell them that butt-sex and homosexuality will put them in a HIGH RISK GROUP to get Aids? i doubt that it is ever mentioned. Meanwhile they will tell kids drugs are bad but homosexuality is okay. Well, homosexuality is more dangerous then drugs. SGat1r5 |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:54:29 AM EDT
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Oh great. Let's not let this dad question the school, but let's also ban him from his right to vote(assuming the school is in his voting "precinct" and let's ban him from letting him talk to his teacher about his progress in that so called "learning environment" That's gonna solve the problem right there isn't it?  They need to seriously RE-EVALUATE the public school system and make it EFFECTIVE! |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:56:25 AM EDT
[#22]
The apocalypse is near my freinds. To say that the morals of people these days are heading down the toilet is an understatement.
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:57:26 AM EDT
[#23]
Sounds like a reasonable precaution on the part of the school system. Assuming he wouldn't seek or couldn't be able to obtain written permission, he could vote absentee and hold Parent/Teacher conferences off site or via other means. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:57:29 AM EDT
[#24]
Hey, like it or not, teaching is quickly becoming the realm of the (former) mediocre student. With the bullshit they have to put up with and the relatively low salaries compared to non-teaching jobs, it's hard to attract quality people to the profession. The latest batch of new schoolteachers (and I know them, after all, I grew up with them) tend to be lacking in brains or ambition. The phrase "that asshole is going to be teaching someone's children?" comes up in conversations with old high school friends more and more these days. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 8:59:30 AM EDT
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I never said that. I DID say that expecting a school official to respond to a PARENTAL concern is in no way unreasonable. If school officials are too busy to respond to legitimate parental concerns, then they need to be fired. Personally, I would have left the principal's office and gone directly to the school board's offices and had a long talk with the superintendent. But I suppose he could decide that he had better things to do and have me arrested for trespassing too, right? |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:00:30 AM EDT
[#26]
You, sir, are out of your mind. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:01:09 AM EDT
[#27]
Of course not........they would then be dicussing sex. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:03:28 AM EDT
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Someday I am going to have to go into the building that houses the "education" program with a digital camera and show everyone exactly what they are "teaching" these future teachers. Unless you have seen their cirriculum and been in some of their classes, you have NO idea the level of indoctrination being perpetrated. Gender reversal exercises, forbiding the use of gender specific phrases, and "multiculturalist" training (white people are wrong and responsible for evil in the world) is only the BEGINNING of the horrors I can show you. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:04:27 AM EDT
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So you are invited by the school to discuss the matter and reach a conclusion on school property. You disagree with their position and they ask you to leave, even though the matter is not settled. There is no indication that he was combative, nor hostile. It is simply stated that he would not leave when asked. When a school official has invited me to a meeting I will attend the meeting until such time as the matter is resolved to my satisfaction, or we both agree to table the meeting agenda. A public official employed by the school board has a duty to respond to the concerns of the parents when those concerns are legitimate. As noted, there was no disturbing the peace or other "combative" charges listed.....so it SOUNDS like the principal had him removed for disagreeing with him. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:06:22 AM EDT
[#30]
In most schools you MUST check in with the principal's office as you enter campus.
I wonder if he did that. If he did than it is clear he never tresspassed. Sgat1r5 |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:07:26 AM EDT
[#31]
Sounds like he did, but then wouldn't leave. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:07:39 AM EDT
[#32]
If the man was violent, out of control, and gave reasonable cause for the principal to fear for his safety, then go ahead and charge him. If, however, the father was just insistent and the principal was being a real d*ck about things (which those who have had to deal with jerk principals will understand. Like my parents who were told that my younger brother was to blame for the three bullies who busted his head open with a rock. He was too "outgoing" for his own good, you see, and if he would just change his personality these three bullies would resume tormenting some of the other dozens of kids they terrorized regularly and would leave him alone..) then the principal ought to be fired. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:10:55 AM EDT
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Tenth Plank: Government control of education
(viii) Education of all children, from the moment they can leave their mother's care, in national establishments at national cost. Education and production together. br> - Frederick Engels, The Principles of Communism  |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:11:29 AM EDT
[#34]
So the parent can just sit in the principal's office till he get what he wants? |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:14:45 AM EDT
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It would be nice if any of this liberal crap taught to kids for the last forty years acually improved
society. But those of us that have been around for a while know that the exact opposite is true. This isn't the first parent and won't be the last that will be told to shut up and leave because the "school" knows what is best concerning your children. As is seen on this board over and over, many have been indoctinated and they don't even know it. I truly am sad at the America that I'm leaving for my six Grandchildren. GM |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:16:03 AM EDT
[#36]
When the school violates its own policy (or state law) what exactly should the parent do? Be dismissed when no resolution has been proposed? |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:17:27 AM EDT
[#37]
Massachusetts is a toilet.
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:18:25 AM EDT
[#38]
Why not? Apparently a school can kick a parent out so they can get what they want. Sounds like the parent was more concerned about the kid then the school was. The father was protecting the child from immoral and detrimental behaviour while the school was teaching it. I'll say it again. The principal, teachers, and all of the school board should be arrested for sexuall harrassement and child endangerment. Homosexuality KILLS. SGat1r5 |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:20:10 AM EDT
[#39]
The school doesn't know sh*t. The parents know what is best. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:20:11 AM EDT
[#40]
Me thinks: It is not about sexuality per-say. It seems someone though it would be a good idea to explain to the kids why some people don't have a mommy and daddy like they do. Or--> to prevent the ostracizing of children who don't have a classic nuclear family. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:22:17 AM EDT
[#41]
That is how it is charachterized in "diversity" training too. It is utter balderdash. The traditional family is the odd one these days, not the other arrangements. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:22:27 AM EDT
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right...because that would be suggesting the hetrosex and marriage is a good thing. And we can't have that now can we?  SGt1r5 |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:22:52 AM EDT
[#43]
This is why CA public schools are trying to force kids back by persecuting homeschool families. Familes that comply with the law (which is a notification the child is homeschooled) are threatened with having their children taken away for neglect. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:23:15 AM EDT
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The way I see it the principal got tired of dealing with the guy so she had him arrested. All other factors aside I think she handled it poorly and is showing a certain level of arrogance and stubbornness. His requests on face value are not unreasonable, yet she has decided to dismiss them outright and will not budge. Obviously, this frustrated him immensely, to the point where the conversation went something like this: "I'll call the cops if you don't leave." "Call them." Is it his fault for being arrested? Yep, he pretty much asked for it. Is it her fault for being arrogant and stubborn? Yep, she's not exactly making a good name for herself here. I've come to the understanding that some school administrators are mini-tyrants that seem to think that their authority over children extends to authority over everyone. I just kind of see it as a sad little world of self-importance that they live in. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:24:19 AM EDT
[#45]
I understand that it is not "conventional" sexual education. But it is discussing sexuality, and it shouldn't be taught until the students are mature enough to understand it. Five years old is not old enough to discuss this topic. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:24:25 AM EDT
[#46]
I would have sent him with a pro gun shirt. ANd a not eexplaining that I don't give the shcool permission to use him for political statements. I'd drop another copy off in person. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:25:34 AM EDT
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Aha! Somebody gets it! Souns like someone who may have had to deal with a nutstick exactly like the principal in this story! Those who have faced the beast have learned to recognize it when they see it. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:27:40 AM EDT
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I'm not defending the parents*. It would just suck for the kid, who has no control over the situation, to get dumped on for the action of her parents. That is probably what the school was attempting to address. ** * Or whatever they may be. ** their milege may vary. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:28:00 AM EDT
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If the judge is worth a shit, he'll burn the prosecutor for bringing a trespassing charge; I would certainly be interested to see how Massachusetts defines criminal trespass in their criminal code.
If Parker has any balls, he'll let the whole sorry crowd know that his request for notification stands. A sharp attorney ought to be able to cook up an equally BS counterclaim that the school is abusing the child. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:28:21 AM EDT
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Now this just pisses me off. In no way shape or form, would I tolerate one of my children being taught that is okay to be gay, and or marry a person of the same sex. What right does the school have to teach that to children, it sounds to me like this guy is a dad trying to be a parent. Instead of arguing with him, the school should thank him for stepping up and taking care of his kids.
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