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AR15.COM
6/8/2005 5:18:48 PM EDT
So where are we gonna put the detainees? And how does a change in building/location mean anything would change with the complaints of abuse?

If we bring those terrorists fooktards into the US for detainment, they are entitled to all the same legal rights as a US citizen (being a Legal Combatant instead of a POW) You'll see dozens of Johnny Cockran clones suing to get them released into the US population and awarding them millions in damages.

We should declare them POWs because then we could hold them indefinitely.

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Bush opens door to possible closing of Guantanamo
Wed Jun 8, 2005 06:17 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush left the door open to an eventual closing of the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay on Wednesday amid mounting complaints and calls for it to be shut down, including a broadside from former president and human rights champion Jimmy Carter.
"We're exploring all alternatives as to how best to do the main objective, which is to protect America. What we don't want to do is let somebody out that comes back and harms us," Bush said in an interview with Fox News Channel when asked whether it should be shut down.

Calls for closure of the prison camp for foreign terrorism suspects at Guatanamo Bay, Cuba have risen over the past few days after Amnesty International set off a furor last month by calling it a "gulag" and comparing it to the brutal Soviet system of forced labor camps in which millions died.

Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California, the Democratic leader of the House of Representatives, added her voice to the criticism on Wednesday by supporting those calling for the closure of the detention camp, including Carter and Sen. Joseph Biden, the senior Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

"I think that we need a fresh start, ... a clean slate for America in the Muslim world," Pelosi told reporters.

The prison camp has been dogged by allegations of abuse since it was created in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and the subsequent U.S.-led military action in Afghanistan.

The Pentagon this week ruled out closing Guantanamo.

But adding to the controversy was the disclosure last week that American guards or interrogators at Guantanamo had mishandled the Koran, Islam's holy book, by stepping on it and soaking it in water.

In one case, a guard's urine splashed through an air vent onto a prisoner and his Koran.

Bush said the prisoners at Guantanamo were treated fairly and rejected as absurd the description of it as a gulag.

"I will tell you that we treat these prisoners in accordance with international standards. And that's what the American people expect," he said.

But Pelosi's support added weight to the argument that the prison is harming the United States' image abroad.    


Her comments came less than a day after Carter, a Democrat renowned across the globe for championing human rights causes, urged the United States to shut down the prison. He urged that detainees be treated fairly and given due process under the law.
"To demonstrate clearly our nation's historic commitment to protect human rights, our government needs to close down Guantanamo and the two dozen secret detention facilities run by the United States as soon as practicable," Carter said.

Biden, a Democrat from Delaware, declared the detention camp "the greatest propaganda tool that exists for the recruiting of terrorists around the world."

The Guantanamo prison, which is located at a U.S. naval base on Cuba, was opened in January 2002. While many former detainees have already been released or sent back to their home countries, it still holds about 520 non-U.S. citizens, most caught in Afghanistan and detained without charges for more than three years.


6/8/2005 5:21:40 PM EDT
[#1]
How about "Happy Jihad Acres" or "Restshithole" or "Thesedeadguysweresodamnedduped Memorial Park?"
6/8/2005 5:22:17 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
How about "Happy Jihad Acres?"





HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
6/8/2005 5:23:33 PM EDT
[#3]
Yes, we should just love them more.

When these fucktards get loose and do more damage it'll be the Dems blaming conservatives for letting them get away. Bush had better be careful. The socialists are going to get him to paint himself into a corner that will destroy the Republican Party. They really are the most underhanded fucktards around and are going to use their underdog status to destroy this nation.
6/8/2005 5:25:08 PM EDT
[#4]
Gitmo will not close.
6/8/2005 5:32:51 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
So where are we gonna put the detainees? And how does a change in building/location mean anything would change with the complaints of abuse?

If we bring those terrorists fooktards into the US for detainment, they are entitled to all the same legal rights as a US citizen (being a Legal Combatant instead of a POW) You'll see dozens of Johnny Cockran clones suing to get them released into the US population and awarding them millions in damages.

We should declare them POWs because then we could hold them indefinitely.

Link



Bush opens door to possible closing of Guantanamo
Wed Jun 8, 2005 06:17 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush left the door open to an eventual closing of the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay on Wednesday amid mounting complaints and calls for it to be shut down, including a broadside from former president and human rights champion Jimmy Carter.
"We're exploring all alternatives as to how best to do the main objective, which is to protect America. What we don't want to do is let somebody out that comes back and harms us," Bush said in an interview with Fox News Channel when asked whether it should be shut down.

Calls for closure of the prison camp for foreign terrorism suspects at Guatanamo Bay, Cuba have risen over the past few days after Amnesty International set off a furor last month by calling it a "gulag" and comparing it to the brutal Soviet system of forced labor camps in which millions died.

Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California, the Democratic leader of the House of Representatives, added her voice to the criticism on Wednesday by supporting those calling for the closure of the detention camp, including Carter and Sen. Joseph Biden, the senior Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

"I think that we need a fresh start, ... a clean slate for America in the Muslim world," Pelosi told reporters.

The prison camp has been dogged by allegations of abuse since it was created in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and the subsequent U.S.-led military action in Afghanistan.

The Pentagon this week ruled out closing Guantanamo.

But adding to the controversy was the disclosure last week that American guards or interrogators at Guantanamo had mishandled the Koran, Islam's holy book, by stepping on it and soaking it in water.

In one case, a guard's urine splashed through an air vent onto a prisoner and his Koran.

Bush said the prisoners at Guantanamo were treated fairly and rejected as absurd the description of it as a gulag.

"I will tell you that we treat these prisoners in accordance with international standards. And that's what the American people expect," he said.

But Pelosi's support added weight to the argument that the prison is harming the United States' image abroad.    


Her comments came less than a day after Carter, a Democrat renowned across the globe for championing human rights causes, urged the United States to shut down the prison. He urged that detainees be treated fairly and given due process under the law.
"To demonstrate clearly our nation's historic commitment to protect human rights, our government needs to close down Guantanamo and the two dozen secret detention facilities run by the United States as soon as practicable," Carter said.

Biden, a Democrat from Delaware, declared the detention camp "the greatest propaganda tool that exists for the recruiting of terrorists around the world."

The Guantanamo prison, which is located at a U.S. naval base on Cuba, was opened in January 2002. While many former detainees have already been released or sent back to their home countries, it still holds about 520 non-U.S. citizens, most caught in Afghanistan and detained without charges for more than three years.





Remember those obsolete Aircraft carriers that are in junkyards?

Think portable Gitmo.

Ben
6/8/2005 5:35:36 PM EDT
[#6]
Don' we have naval bombing ranges on some island in the Carribean.  Put them there and forget to cancel class.
6/8/2005 5:37:32 PM EDT
[#7]
nah, it's about the right distance...




oh wait....I'm too used to reading typos here
6/8/2005 5:38:57 PM EDT
[#8]
Bush is just being a politician and saying "Well, that's interesting, we'll take it under consideration."  Bush has never cared about the opinions of his critics or the media.  Why would he start caring now?  He's less interested in what Jimmy Carter and Amnesty Int'l think than he is in detaining terrorists, getting information from them, and using that intel to keep Americans safe.