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6/5/2005 8:23:48 AM EDT

6/5/2005 8:26:03 AM EDT
[#1]

fake - horseshoe crabs cannot physically get that big.



Although if they did, I'm sure they would be harmeless.  Unlike giant squid, who are always lurking ... waiting to pounce and eat you!  
6/5/2005 8:26:59 AM EDT
[#2]
Looks like some type of Stingray
6/5/2005 8:28:37 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Looks like some type of Stingray



I could be wrong, but it LOOKS like an exoskeleton, which made me think crab (and it looks kinda like a horseshoe crab) - not a ray.

But some rays can certainly get that big.
6/5/2005 8:32:42 AM EDT
[#4]
Definitely a horseshoe crab, definitely a real one;

That was photoshopped into this other pic
No way they can get that big in reality
6/5/2005 8:33:35 AM EDT
[#5]

If it is a photoshop, then it is a damned good one.  Look at the shadow of the pole on the water.  Looks real to me.

6/5/2005 8:38:50 AM EDT
[#6]
"How big is an adult horseshoe crab? A mature male ranges from 7–9 inches across the helmet-like prosoma, with an overall length, from head to tail, of 13–16 inches long. Mature females typically are much larger than the males, ranging from 9–12 inches across the widest part of the shell and 16–20 inches long. "

Link
6/5/2005 8:39:25 AM EDT
[#7]
Taste like chicken?
6/5/2005 8:41:35 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
If it is a photoshop, then it is a damned good one.  Look at the shadow of the pole on the water.  Looks real to me.




Obviously a photoshop based simply on the size of the horseshoe crab.

The shadow is in the wrong place, anyway. It should be connecting the end of the pole with the shadow of the holder on the dock. The shadow on the water is phisically impossible.

Nice try, though.
6/5/2005 8:53:54 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
If it is a photoshop, then it is a damned good one.  Look at the shadow of the pole on the water.  Looks real to me.




Exactly, look at the persons shadow and see where the sun would be compared to the pole in the water, definetly photoshopped.
6/5/2005 8:54:33 AM EDT
[#10]
THAT is a horseshoe crab.

I've seen a billion of the little bastards.

If its real, its a record breaker over a 20 million year old fossil history.

Probably photoshoped though.....
6/5/2005 8:59:50 AM EDT
[#11]
All you guys talking about the shadow, or the reflection of the pole? Cuz the reflection lines up right, the shadow though kinda fades out and you can't really see shit  from the shadow.

Still agree though photoshop.
6/5/2005 9:01:08 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
If it is a photoshop, then it is a damned good one.  Look at the shadow of the pole on the water.  Looks real to me.





Shadow of the pole on the water is fake and just plain stupid, of whoever did this hack chop job.....  It's completely in the WRONG place. So fake, it's laughable, not to mention it's WAY out of contrast, and doesn't even look CLOSE to the real shadow's darkness below.

Look at the REAL shadow his body makes on the walk, below him in the pic.

THAT is where the shadow of the pole SHOULD be as well.  It's as cheesy as can possibly be, the sun just doesn't make TWO shadows of the same object, in different places, at two different darknesses.  It's physically impossible.

I can't believe people actually think these things are real.....






Ohh, and a STINGRAY ?!  

Stingray = a FISH.....  





Horsheshoe Crab =  A crab (crustacean, same as shrimp, lobster, prawn, crayfish, etc)



6/5/2005 9:04:56 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If it is a photoshop, then it is a damned good one.  Look at the shadow of the pole on the water.  Looks real to me.





Shadow of the pole on the water is fake and just plain stupid, of whoever did this hack chop job.....  It's completely in the WRONG place. So fake, it's laughable, not to mention it's WAY out of contrast, and doesn't even look CLOSE to the real shadow's darkness below.

Look at the REAL shadow his body makes on the walk, below him in the pic.

THAT is where the shadow of the pole SHOULD be as well.  It's as cheesy as can possibly be, the sun just doesn't make TWO shadows of the same object, in different places, at two different darknesses.  It's physically impossible.

I can't believe people actually think these things are real.....






Ohh, and a STINGRAY ?!  

Stingray = a FISH.....  

www.nbhtravel.com/CaymanIslands/stingrays%20swimming%20by.jpg



Horsheshoe Crab =  A crab (crustacean, same as shrimp, lobster, prawn, crayfish, etc)

www.arkive.org/media/15AC2864-E565-4AD7-A35E-D87240DF3372/Presentation.Large/Group_of_male_horseshoe_crabs_surrounding_female.jpg





There is a shadow of the pole comming from the shadow of the person, there is also a reflection of the person and the pole. I think everyone is lookinga t the reeflection as the shadow. The shadow actually looks like it is right, it just fades off in the water though, which can and does happen.
6/5/2005 9:36:41 AM EDT
[#14]
"Horsheshoe Crab = A crab (crustacean, same as shrimp, lobster, prawn, crayfish, etc)"

The horseshoe belongs to its own class called Merostomata, and is not a Crustacean.
6/5/2005 10:29:51 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
"Horsheshoe Crab = A crab (crustacean, same as shrimp, lobster, prawn, crayfish, etc)"

The horseshoe belongs to its own class called Merostomata, and is not a Crustacean.



Merostomayta / Merostomahta, it's still a big bug.  
6/5/2005 10:32:55 AM EDT
[#16]
Come on fellas, the guy with the pole isn't the photoshopped part, sheesh.


ByteTheBullet  (-:
6/5/2005 10:38:47 AM EDT
[#17]
Yep, the crab has been added to the photo.
6/5/2005 10:40:14 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Come on fellas, the guy with the pole isn't the photoshopped part, sheesh.


ByteTheBullet  (-:

Agreed.  That guy, his pole, the REFLECTION of the pole, and the SHADOW of the pole all are real, it appears to me.
You folks ain't never been around water, have ya?
6/5/2005 10:41:43 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
"Horsheshoe Crab = A crab (crustacean, same as shrimp, lobster, prawn, crayfish, etc)"

The horseshoe belongs to its own class called Merostomata, and is not a Crustacean.





Semantics  

now go away !




6/5/2005 10:44:59 AM EDT
[#20]
Um.. guys commenting on the fakeness of the picture, specifically the guy holding the pole.

That "really fake, out of contrast shadow" isn't his shadow, it's his reflection. The shadow is below the reflection and is correct.

The picture looks like the only thing Photoshopped in is the horseshoe crab.
6/5/2005 11:00:14 AM EDT
[#21]
my vote go to being fake, no way is there anyone that small.  if the tiles are 1" square that person would only be like 3.5" tall.  the twig appears to be about 6" long.

it must be fake.
6/5/2005 11:04:28 AM EDT
[#22]
That is one tiny guy.  He must be photoshopped.  


R
6/5/2005 11:11:28 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Come on fellas, the guy with the pole isn't the photoshopped part, sheesh.


ByteTheBullet  (-:

Agreed.  That guy, his pole, the REFLECTION of the pole, and the SHADOW of the pole all are real, it appears to me.
You folks ain't never been around water, have ya?




Nahhh.... just LIVED about 5 minutes away from it, all my life, when not on boats I've fixed, or owned by friends  


Lookie and learn.........  



I won't bother mentioning that when water REALLY reflects something, it reflects the COLOR of it too, not some arbitrary color.  

Guy = blue & white / Blob = brown..........  Hmmm  

You figger it out  
6/5/2005 11:15:04 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Um.. guys commenting on the fakeness of the picture, specifically the guy holding the pole.

That "really fake, out of contrast shadow" isn't his shadow, it's his reflection. The shadow is below the reflection and is correct.

The picture looks like the only thing Photoshopped in is the horseshoe crab.



YOu said it so much better than me...
6/5/2005 11:15:25 AM EDT
[#25]
Haha, nice.

But yeah, some of you are looking at the wrong thing.  The only part you need to Photoshop is the section with the crab in it.  It's a matter of getting a good image, resizing it and pretty much just pasting him in.  From there you use whatever masks, blurs and other blending effects that will allow him to "blend in."

It's a very good Photoshop image, the only thing obvious about it being fake is the fact that we already know it's impossible.

Besides, what's so hard to believe about tiny men?h.gif
6/5/2005 11:19:01 AM EDT
[#26]
Let's just poke this big ass thing with a stick, ok?  
6/5/2005 11:24:08 AM EDT
[#27]
This gets my vote for the dumbest fucking thread Ive seen in weeks....topic AND responses.


6/5/2005 11:26:55 AM EDT
[#28]
Yep... Photoshopped.

Note: bottom of picture. "M90.org A weapon of Mass Distraction".
6/5/2005 11:37:00 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
This gets my vote for the dumbest fucking thread Ive seen in weeks....topic AND responses.






Hush, you.....  I'm bored    
6/5/2005 11:43:33 AM EDT
[#30]
Its fake, and a dupe.
6/5/2005 1:03:24 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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Come on fellas, the guy with the pole isn't the photoshopped part, sheesh.


ByteTheBullet  (-:

Agreed.  That guy, his pole, the REFLECTION of the pole, and the SHADOW of the pole all are real, it appears to me.
You folks ain't never been around water, have ya?




Nahhh.... just LIVED about 5 minutes away from it, all my life, when not on boats I've fixed, or owned by friends  


Lookie and learn.........  

img150.echo.cx/img150/1105/hackedcrab7zx.jpg

I won't bother mentioning that when water REALLY reflects something, it reflects the COLOR of it too, not some arbitrary color.  

Guy = blue & white / Blob = brown..........  Hmmm  

You figger it out  

That reflection appears perfectly explained - it DOES match the poleguy's position.
At the right angles under the right lighting conditions, you can determine color...but can the camera?
ETA - with that bottom so close to the surface right there, that would have a tendancy to alter the color as it appears to either the naked eye or a camera, I'd think.
6/5/2005 1:04:11 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
This gets my vote for the dumbest fucking thread Ive seen in weeks....topic AND responses.






Hush, you.....  I'm bored    




Yeah, roger that.
6/5/2005 1:36:40 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Come on fellas, the guy with the pole isn't the photoshopped part, sheesh.


ByteTheBullet  (-:

Agreed.  That guy, his pole, the REFLECTION of the pole, and the SHADOW of the pole all are real, it appears to me.
You folks ain't never been around water, have ya?




Nahhh.... just LIVED about 5 minutes away from it, all my life, when not on boats I've fixed, or owned by friends  


Lookie and learn.........  

img150.echo.cx/img150/1105/hackedcrab7zx.jpg

I won't bother mentioning that when water REALLY reflects something, it reflects the COLOR of it too, not some arbitrary color.  

Guy = blue & white / Blob = brown..........  Hmmm  

You figger it out  

That reflection appears perfectly explained - it DOES match the poleguy's position.
At the right angles under the right lighting conditions, you can determine color...but can the camera?
ETA - with that bottom so close to the surface right there, that would have a tendancy to alter the color as it appears to either the naked eye or a camera, I'd think.




Trust me, it's chopped in.......  I got no reason to waste my time arguing that it is, if I wasn't sure.

The brown blob has absolutely NO specular highlights, as would appear in an exposure of sun reflecting off water..... The rest of the water DOES have them.   The brown blob is one uniform color,  And the camera WOULD have picked up the reflection of color IF that was his actual reflection... It WOULD appear blue... NOT doodie brown.  It's blatantly fake, anyone with knowledge of photo manipulation would see it right off.  

Only reason I'm so convinced is a close friend of my family's DOES photo retouching and such for a living.  He taught me how to use, and gave me my very first airbrush when I was a kid.  That and when my mother was alive back then, she worked for two different photographers, and I ended up helping one at weddings when I was a teenager for a while.  I learned to pick up on things like this back then.  I've actually done some photo manip. myself, over the years....  I know what to look for as far as changes in the pixelization levels due to poor control of the images DPI, when copied / pasted from & to, as well as unnatural lighting reflections, etc, such as this is...

If you choose to believe me or not, is up to you.....  Just trying to explain what's wrong and why it sticks out like a sore thumb. (at least to me)  

Anyways, now I'm REALLY bored, so I'm going to go find something useful to do    Arfcom's WAY too quiet to be sitting here this long today, hahaha