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5/31/2005 4:15:16 PM EDT
and still be edible?  Friends got a couple of ribeye roast in his freezer. he thinks they have been there for 3-4 years. i'm going to defrost it and see if it still good.

5/31/2005 4:18:13 PM EDT
[#1]
Have a back up plan.
5/31/2005 4:21:20 PM EDT
[#2]
Well, there's at least one restaurant somewhere in the former Soviet Union that sells authentic
MAMMOTH STEAKS.   They've been frozen for not less than TEN THOUSAND YEARS and the
meat is still perfectly good.    Reportedly they're rather tasty, too.   But yes, they're expensive.

CJ
5/31/2005 4:22:21 PM EDT
[#3]
I'm thinkin 6 mos to a year maybe, depending on the freezer temperature and amount of moisture/seal integrity when they were frozen.

Vacuum sealed would help, if just in foil or regular plastic bags then is prolly NFG.

5/31/2005 4:24:46 PM EDT
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Have a back up plan.


+1
5/31/2005 4:34:50 PM EDT
[#5]
If properly wrapped/sealed, and kept at zero degrees Fahrenheit or below, it is nothing to keep them 3-4 years with no loss in quality.  
5/31/2005 4:41:41 PM EDT
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Well, there's at least one restaurant somewhere in the former Soviet Union that sells authentic
MAMMOTH STEAKS.   They've been frozen for not less than TEN THOUSAND YEARS and the
meat is still perfectly good.    Reportedly they're rather tasty, too.   But yes, they're expensive.

CJ



10,000 + year old meat ?

how could it be edible after that much time?
5/31/2005 4:45:58 PM EDT
[#7]

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If properly wrapped/sealed, and kept at zero degrees Fahrenheit or below, it is nothing to keep them 3-4 years with no loss in quality.  



I'll have to disagree.

When you freeze meat, the cellular structure is destroyed to a point.  Meat is made of mostly water, which as we all know expands when frozen.  When the meat is defrosted, you lose alot of water/ juices which makes a piece of meat less tasty and quite a bit drier than it could've been if eaten fresh.  The only meat I freeze are ground meats (beef, veal, pork butt, etc.).

If you want a good meal, I would reccomend discarding the old frozen meat and buying fresh
5/31/2005 4:48:30 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Well, there's at least one restaurant somewhere in the former Soviet Union that sells authentic
MAMMOTH STEAKS.   They've been frozen for not less than TEN THOUSAND YEARS and the
meat is still perfectly good.    Reportedly they're rather tasty, too.   But yes, they're expensive.

CJ



10,000 + year old meat ?

how could it be edible after that much time?
5/31/2005 4:49:46 PM EDT
[#9]

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and still be edible?  Friends got a couple of ribeye roast in his freezer. he thinks they have been there for 3-4 years. i'm going to defrost it and see if it still good.




I think "good" is the qualifier here. If you freeze meat and seal it properly, as long as it is frozen it will be edible and nutritious when prepared. It may taste like cardboard shit after freezing. In college I once at a steak after it had been in the freezer hidden for two years. Not great but good enough.

The same is true why seafood is not good in most the US. Its all frozen shit. Its no wonder no one likes fish anymore.
5/31/2005 4:51:28 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If properly wrapped/sealed, and kept at zero degrees Fahrenheit or below, it is nothing to keep them 3-4 years with no loss in quality.  



I'll have to disagree.

When you freeze meat, the cellular structure is destroyed to a point.  Meat is made of mostly water, which as we all know expands when frozen.  When the meat is defrosted, you lose alot of water/ juices which makes a piece of meat less tasty and quite a bit drier than it could've been if eaten fresh.  The only meat I freeze are ground meats (beef, veal, pork butt, etc.).

If you want a good meal, I would reccomend discarding the old frozen meat and buying fresh



I don't buy meat.  The State frowns upon killing deer outside of the brief seasons, so I believe I'll stick to my present methods.  Many on this site have eaten our frozen steaks, and have been pleased with the flavor, texture and quality.  
5/31/2005 4:51:29 PM EDT
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5/31/2005 4:57:43 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:
Well, there's at least one restaurant somewhere in the former Soviet Union that sells authentic
MAMMOTH STEAKS.   They've been frozen for not less than TEN THOUSAND YEARS and the
meat is still perfectly good.    Reportedly they're rather tasty, too.   But yes, they're expensive.

CJ



10,000 + year old meat ?

how could it be edible after that much time?



ask Anna Nicole
5/31/2005 4:59:21 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Well, there's at least one restaurant somewhere in the former Soviet Union that sells authentic
MAMMOTH STEAKS.   They've been frozen for not less than TEN THOUSAND YEARS and the
meat is still perfectly good.    Reportedly they're rather tasty, too.   But yes, they're expensive.

CJ



LOL, beat me to it.  But, yep, if it frozen correctly it'll last for years, many,many years.
5/31/2005 5:02:32 PM EDT
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Removed Double Post.
5/31/2005 5:28:02 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:

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If properly wrapped/sealed, and kept at zero degrees Fahrenheit or below, it is nothing to keep them 3-4 years with no loss in quality.  



I'll have to disagree.

When you freeze meat, the cellular structure is destroyed to a point.  Meat is made of mostly water, which as we all know expands when frozen.  When the meat is defrosted, you lose alot of water/ juices which makes a piece of meat less tasty and quite a bit drier than it could've been if eaten fresh.  The only meat I freeze are ground meats (beef, veal, pork butt, etc.).

If you want a good meal, I would reccomend discarding the old frozen meat and buying fresh



I don't buy meat.  The State frowns upon killing deer outside of the brief seasons, so I believe I'll stick to my present methods.  Many on this site have eaten our frozen steaks, and have been pleased with the flavor, texture and quality.  



Well then, I guess a sample is in order


5/31/2005 5:38:27 PM EDT
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Well then, I guess a sample is in order





No problem--just show up at the Buffaloblast Shoot this coming Sunday near Ottawa, Illinois.  Check the Illinois Hometown forum for details.  
5/31/2005 5:52:21 PM EDT
[#17]
   If meat gets a bit "old" in the freezer you make stew with it, you don't throw it out. As long as it's frozen quickly and wrapped well, [I dbl wrap]it can do very well, once thawed tho, I would not recommend it be refrozen, it'll be pretty nasty.
5/31/2005 5:53:21 PM EDT
[#18]
Vacuum sealed I have no problem with a few years.
That process seams to add some benefit over other packaging
concerning freezing.


GM
5/31/2005 5:56:48 PM EDT
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Vacuum sealed I have no problem with a few years.
That process seams to add some benefit over other packaging
concerning freezing.


GM



Vacuum sealing removes air and moisture which are bad for long term storage.

Vacum sealed meat that is fozen and kept at a low enough temp can be kept for years.
5/31/2005 6:20:24 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Well, there's at least one restaurant somewhere in the former Soviet Union that sells authentic
MAMMOTH STEAKS.   They've been frozen for not less than TEN THOUSAND YEARS and the
meat is still perfectly good.    Reportedly they're rather tasty, too.   But yes, they're expensive.

CJ



No shit?  I would love to try some of that, just to say I did it.  I wonder if they could ship it in dry ice or something.
5/31/2005 6:31:29 PM EDT
[#21]
You can't beat frozen meat.  
5/31/2005 6:36:47 PM EDT
[#22]

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You can't beat frozen meat.  



5/31/2005 6:43:25 PM EDT
[#23]
It also depends on your freezer.  A frost-free freezer purposely cycles the temperature up and down to prevent frost from accumulating; that's why you get freezer burn on the stuff in your regular frige's freezer in a very short amount of time (that, and the fact that you open the damn door all day long).

A good storage freezer should NOT be the frost-free type, and should maintain a consistant temperature.  Yeah, you have to clean the ice out of it every so often, but you also get to keep food around for MUCH longer.

-Troy
5/31/2005 6:49:54 PM EDT
[#24]
Until it's thawed.

I had to say it.
5/31/2005 7:03:39 PM EDT
[#25]
6 months optimum storage and temp control.
5/31/2005 8:01:22 PM EDT
[#26]

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6 months optimum storage and temp control.



Does this mean that my mammoth will be chewy and full of gristle?