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5/19/2005 3:30:52 AM EDT
Anyone else seen it?   Holy crap, I wasnt really interested in the movie at first but it was definitely worthwhile.    One of the best movies I've seen in a long time.    There's some brutal SOBs in africa.   I could do without the amnesty int'l ad in the beginning tho.
5/19/2005 3:39:28 AM EDT
[#1]
We visited Rwanda a few times to drop of some ROWPU units in the 90's when the genocide was winding down.

Terribel what people can do to each other.
5/19/2005 3:53:22 AM EDT
[#2]
yeah i saw it the same nite pbs ran that deal about  it all.. kinda cool to see the movie then flip thru channels and see  real footage
5/19/2005 5:12:40 AM EDT
[#3]
I can think of a lot better ways to go than a machete!
5/19/2005 5:38:29 AM EDT
[#4]
I recently got this movie from Netflix.

Overall, very well done.  Acting, direction and script were generally very good.  My only complaints were a few of Nick Nolte's lines (I think he overacted a smidge at parts) and it seemed like every time the main characters faced an impossible situation a minor miracle happened to bail them out.  Regarding that last point, maybe that was the message of the movie, eh?  

One point:  I thought the transformation of the main character was done very well.  This was the change from the hotel manager who cared only about his family (remember the scene with his neighbor getting beaten) to a man who cares about all the refugees.  

I couldn't help but thinking that the victims of genocide in that movie might have had a better chance if they had guns.
5/19/2005 6:26:08 AM EDT
[#5]
I rented it the other day.

It is a very good movie overall.
5/19/2005 6:43:34 AM EDT
[#6]
I think it also very well illustrated the complete uselessness of the UN.
5/19/2005 5:21:53 PM EDT
[#7]
I thought that the HBO movie Sometime in April was better at showing the horrors, but HR was a pretty good movie.
5/19/2005 5:26:20 PM EDT
[#8]
"Sometime in April" was an excellent film.

Like BHD, you can not replace the smell and the sounds....
5/19/2005 7:17:25 PM EDT
[#9]
My wife used to work with a guy from there.  After the genocide they never heard from their relatives again.  Every sibling, parent, aunt, uncle and cousin had been killed.
5/19/2005 7:18:29 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I think it also very well illustrated the complete uselessness of the UN.



And the evil of the French
5/19/2005 7:22:41 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think it also very well illustrated the complete uselessness of the UN.



And the evil of the French



+1, I couldn't watch the whole thing, it brought back too many bad memories...
6/30/2005 1:26:50 PM EDT
[#12]
Sorry for topping and old thread. I am going to watch this with the wife tonight. Netflix dropped it off.

I was not going to watch it.

I said that about BHD as well.

We'll see.


Has anyone else seen it sincelat posting in May?
6/30/2005 1:34:00 PM EDT
[#13]
My wife bought the movie a couple of weeks ago. I wasn't really interested as I knew what had happened and figured it would just make me mad all over again. It did. UN is a bunch of pussies.
6/30/2005 1:48:28 PM EDT
[#14]

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I think it also very well illustrated the complete uselessness of the UN.



I'll always feel bad for the Canadian general they stuck down there.

"Hey, here's a country about to break out in genocidal conflict. Here's a handful of Belgian troops. Get control of the situation and keep the peace. By the way, don't shoot anybody and you're not getting any support. Or reinforcement. Have fun! And if it doesn't work, odds are it'll all be your fault."
6/30/2005 1:55:56 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think it also very well illustrated the complete uselessness of the UN.



I'll always feel bad for the Canadian general they stuck down there.

"Hey, here's a country about to break out in genocidal conflict. Here's a handful of Belgian troops. Get control of the situation and keep the peace. By the way, don't shoot anybody and you're not getting any support. Or reinforcement. Have fun! And if it doesn't work, odds are it'll all be your fault."



From what I've read, that Canadian general (Romeo Dallaire) was apparently quite critical of the US for not pressuring the UN to do more to stop the events in Rwanda.

6/30/2005 1:56:54 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think it also very well illustrated the complete uselessness of the UN.



I'll always feel bad for the Canadian general they stuck down there.

"Hey, here's a country about to break out in genocidal conflict. Here's a handful of Belgian troops. Get control of the situation and keep the peace. By the way, don't shoot anybody and you're not getting any support. Or reinforcement. Have fun! And if it doesn't work, odds are it'll all be your fault."



Didn't I read that he admitted to getting PTSD from this whole experience?  The highest ranking officer ever to claim this?

6/30/2005 1:59:13 PM EDT
[#17]

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Didn't I read that he admitted to getting PTSD from this whole experience?  The highest ranking officer ever to claim this?




He attempted suicide.
6/30/2005 2:05:29 PM EDT
[#18]

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There's some brutal SOBs in africa.  



No worse than what Japs did to our POWs, Chinese, Koreans, etc. during WWII
6/30/2005 2:12:05 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think it also very well illustrated the complete uselessness of the UN.



I'll always feel bad for the Canadian general they stuck down there.

"Hey, here's a country about to break out in genocidal conflict. Here's a handful of Belgian troops. Get control of the situation and keep the peace. By the way, don't shoot anybody and you're not getting any support. Or reinforcement. Have fun! And if it doesn't work, odds are it'll all be your fault."



From what I've read, that Canadian general (Romeo Dallaire) was apparently quite critical of the US for not pressuring the UN to do more to stop the events in Rwanda.




He needed to be critical of the UN and leaves US alone.

Why should the US ALWAYS have to make the UN do the right thing while they kick US in the teeth and make US the bad guy?

If the world really wants to stop genocide they will tell the UN to fu*k off and find another solution… the UN is not only is incapable of stopping genocide the UN invariably makes it worst… But really the Europeans don’t give a damn how may Africans or anybody else die as long as they can take care of their economic interest... and blame the US.

The solution was simple a couple thousand well trained contractors/mercenaries with the proper charter and support could have stopped the whole thing. The simple fact of the matter is the UN did not care because most of the member states are thug dictatorships or amoral crud like most of Europe.
6/30/2005 2:24:39 PM EDT
[#20]
film was ruined by the fact the canadians where armed with the wrong pistols

Yes i know im an anorac!
6/30/2005 2:25:25 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

From what I've read, that Canadian general (Romeo Dallaire) was apparently quite critical of the US for not pressuring the UN to do more to stop the events in Rwanda.




Still a UN apologist.

Retired Canadian general Romeo Dallaire slammed the U.S. and Britain
yesterday for making a war against Iraq all but inevitable by ensuring the
failure of United Nations weapons inspections.

...

Lt.-Gen. Dallaire's support of the UN, which has been criticized as a
toothless world body, is particularly striking given the UN ignored his
pleas for more troops to prevent the Rwanda genocide that claimed 800,000
lives nine years ago.

But Lt.-Gen. Dallaire said he has never blamed the UN for Rwanda, nor does
he fault it for failing to resolve the current Iraq crisis.

He said the UN is only as strong as the support it receives from the five
permanent members of the Security Council. If the U.S. and Britain were ever
serious about backing successful weapons inspections, he said, they would
have supported sending thousands, not hundreds, of inspectors to Iraq.

Source:

https://lists.resist.ca/pipermail/project-x/2003-February/002430.html

6/30/2005 2:59:10 PM EDT
[#22]
Read about the US Marines at our embassy in Liberia during the tribal revolutions. Those fuckers were holding human hearts out in their hands from the dead and waving them at the embassy guards. A couple of times, snipers had to lay to rest the trouble in the street. Animals in the streets.