Posted: 4/7/2005 7:08:54 AM EDT
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Has anyone figured out the search engines yet? In regards to personal websites? Not to give my personal website a shameless plug but I'll use it for an example [please just trying to educate myself] I breed German Shorthaired Pointers. They're most often referred to as GSPs or german shorthair pointers. I have all known names in my sites meta tags. When I type in German Shorthaired Pointers or German Shorthair Pointers I am pretty high in the search engines. However if I type in German Shorthaired Pointer or German Shorthair Pointer I can't be found. Any suggestons? Patty |
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When you made the tags did you say "pointer" or "pointers"? You should make it "pointer" because that would get picked up if someone searched "pointers", but the reverse isn't true for every search engine. (But if there are a bunch of sites that use the same tags as you do, and they get more hits or more links, then your page will drop down the list). Also, if you have your tag as "pointers" and a lot of other sites just use "pointer" and you search for "pointers", then your site would come out on top. |
I have both. But I'll make pointer first. That's interesting. One thing I've done - haven't noticed if its helped yet is that I've typed my keywords at the top of my webpage so they do not really stand out or show but if the search engines happen to read the page they see my keywords first. Again, not sure it helps. Another interesting thing Google has done [not sure how] is that when you type in German Shorthaired Pointers [only that phrase] they bring up a picture of a GSP puppy that they took off my website that is linked directly to my site. Now I'm a paid advertisor for Google so I'm not sure if they've done that just for me or not? Patty |
Google is a crazy website, it's near impossible to understand all the parts of their algorithm. Google images uses many different things when it searches for images, including filename, website keywords, text on the website its on, etc. Google also uses the keywords of links to pages to create the search listings as well as keywords. This means that if every ARFCOM member had a website and linked to CNN and the URL text is "crazy ass liberals" and the URL is www.cnn.com, then when someone searched "crazy ass liberals" CNN's website would show up. |
I've tried that once about 5 years ago and It got me no where. I like the pay per click as I really only have something to sell about twice a year and it only costs me about 200 bucks per campaign. Some one needs to explain that If every ARFCOM member had a website with CNN = liberal asshats then when someone searches for liberal asshats CNN would come up. That makes no sense to me. Also when the picture of my puppy comes up, it's not when searching for pictures, it's searching for the actual breed. Interesting enough her picture is on a page on my website dedicated to breed history - however the page name is breed_history.html Patty |
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A 2 second search on google turned up LOADS of info. Google : "how to create effective meta tags" First link is very informative : datacreek.net/support/meta.html Not all that hard to find what you're looking for, just need to look. 
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Thank you. I'll study these. I have looked at sites similarly. My question is really how effective are they. Sure I found their sites but here's an example. When you type in German Shorthaired Pointer - the number one thing you get is www.gspca.org this is our national parent club. They have nothing to sell and give no real advice for people researching the breed but I suspect they have the same amounts of hits. Here is their Meta Tags: <html> <!-- #BeginTemplate "geared_moments_dwt/geared_moments1.dwt" --> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 6.0"> <!-- #BeginEditable "doctitle" --> <title>German Shorthaired Pointer Club of America, Inc.</title> <!-- #EndEditable --> <!-- #BeginEditable "keywords" --> <meta name="keywords" content="German Shorthaired Pointer Club of America, parent club, Shorthair Journal, GSP"> <!-- #EndEditable --> <!-- #BeginEditable "description" --> <meta name="description" content="We are on the web!!"> <!-- #EndEditable --> <!-- #BeginEditable "scripting" --> <!-- Scripting area here --> <!-- #EndEditable --> <meta name="DWT Version" content="1.01"> <!-- 10.19.03 / Removed .fla source to provide as demo --> <link rev="Made" href="http://www.twcgraphics.com"> <meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document"> <link rel="stylesheet" href="geared_moments_dwt/style.css" type="text/css"> </head> I've never seen this type of tag before. I'll have to study it. Here is mine: <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us"> <title>German Shorthaired Pointers - Awesome Kennel-Breeders for calm family hunting companions.</title> <meta name="description" content="Oregon German Shorthaired Pointers,Awesome German Shorthaired Pointers is dedicated to breeding top quality German Shorthaired Pointers to be the best they can be. If you are looking for a quality Shorthair feel free to contact us."> <meta name="keywords" content="German Shorthaired Pointers, GSP, GSPCA, kurzhaar, shorthair, field dogs, hunting dogs, upland game dogs, bird dogs, Awesome Kennel, Patty McNary"> <meta name="revisit-after" Content="12 days;"> <meta name-"robots"content-"12 days"> <META name="Author" content="Patty McNary"> <META name="Copyright" content="Awesome Webmaster"> <META name="Rating" content="General"> <META name="Robots" content="All"> <base target="_self" Mine is certainly more simplistic - but They obviously have a higher placement. I think their url name German Shorthaired Pointer Club of America helps though? Patty |
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They're using M$ Front Page.... You aren't. Things are done differently with every program you use to create your pages. This is part of the reason why some pages get up top and some dont. Also notice they have "shorthair" as well as "shorthairED" in their 'keywords' tag line.... Adding many different variations of the same words will help. Even so if you use MISspelled variations, considering how many people can;t seem to spell their own name, without checking their mail Also, you can use a little trick to put the keywords INTO the body of your pages..... Just add a text frame, and type in the keywords, but use the SAME COLOR as the background, which effectively makes that text "invisible" to a viewer, BUT a crawler-bot can still see it. That first page I quoted above lists much good info. A little searching around elsewhere should give you some good tips...  Ohh and yes... them using the GSP club name in the tag WILL help, as I'd think many people will search for something like that, being it's an 'official' group..... If you're a member, add the name to YOUR tags as well. Can only help. |
I do put the keywords in the body of my website both hidden like you suggested and then actual context. Are you recommending putting the GSPCA [top in search engine] in my meta tags as well? Interesting. Thanks for the info! Patty *ETA* what about the tag "WE ARE HERE?" |