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2/24/2005 6:42:13 PM EDT
Should there be another Matrix?  Matrix 4? Is there room in the plot for another?  The last one ended with peace in Zion but a certain dominance of the planet by the machines.  Should Neo further his efforts to obliterate the machine overlords?

2/24/2005 6:43:21 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
Should there be another Matrix?  Matrix 4? Is there room in the plot for another?  The last one ended with peace in Zion but a certain dominance of the planet by the machines.  Should Neo further his efforts to obliterate the machine overlords?




No way. The first one and the Animatrix were the only good ones.
2/24/2005 6:43:26 PM EDT
[#2]
As long as it is as good as the first one I would say yes.  The last 2 were not as good even though i still like the trilogy.
2/24/2005 6:44:12 PM EDT
[#3]
If the 2nd and 3rd one hadnt sucked Id say yes
2/24/2005 6:45:51 PM EDT
[#4]
Neo and Trinity are dead.
End of story.
2/24/2005 6:46:59 PM EDT
[#5]
The last two blew big giant turds and the first wasnt that much better.   Hell no!   Let it die and be forgotten.
2/24/2005 6:47:32 PM EDT
[#6]
No.

Please.
2/24/2005 6:47:48 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Should there be another Matrix?  Matrix 4? Is there room in the plot for another?  The last one ended with peace in Zion but a certain dominance of the planet by the machines.  Should Neo further his efforts to obliterate the machine overlords?




No way. The first one and the Animatrix were the only good ones.




I agree but i loved reloaded.. freeway scene owned
2/24/2005 6:48:02 PM EDT
[#8]
NO!

The first one was brillant and groundbreaking.  The second one (since they were parts 1 and 2 I consider them just one long film) lost their way.

Can anyone think of ANY multi-part film series that could equal or top what came before (besides Alien/Aliens, Terminator/T2 or Godfather/Godfather2)?

I can't off the top of my head other than those.

Let it die and move on to something else.  In a few years there might be someone with a vision that could pull it off, but not the Wachowski's, not after they had all the resources and money in the world to do parts 2 and 3 and came up with what they did.  
2/24/2005 6:48:08 PM EDT
[#9]
No.  
2/24/2005 6:48:27 PM EDT
[#10]
the war was over....that was Neo's purpose, to end the war. But sure Id say another one would be good cause if there were indeed previous Neos then it should all start over again, but from the beginning so it would provide backround for the original Matrix (theoretically)
2/24/2005 6:49:20 PM EDT
[#11]
I saw the 1st one and the 3d one. The 3d one pretty well destroyed the notion that there was a plot underlying the series, despite the fact that #1 held up well on its own. #3 was pure crap. It was like they found some abandoned warehouse full of worn out memes and half-assed symbols and decided to incorporate every one of them into the movie. It was as bad as any movie I have seen, other than "Kill Crazy."

My answer is "No, there should not be another Matrix movie, unless the responsible parties can desuckify themselves."
2/24/2005 6:49:29 PM EDT
[#12]
No way.  The first one was good but the 2nd and 3rd ones were just weak.  It would be a waste of money if they made another one.
2/24/2005 6:49:38 PM EDT
[#13]
HELL NO!

The first one kicked ass.

The Animatrix was an EXCELLENT collection of short stories.

The second and third films were lukewarm, at best.
2/24/2005 6:49:46 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Neo and Trinity are dead.
End of story.



I agree

2/24/2005 6:49:52 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
NO!

The first one was brillant and groundbreaking.  The second one (since they were parts 1 and 2 I consider them just one long film) lost their way.

Can anyone think of ANY multi-part film series that could equal or top what came before (besides Alien/Aliens, Terminator/T2 or Godfather/Godfather2)?

I can't off the top of my head other than those.

Let it die and move on to something else.  In a few years there might be someone with a vision that could pull it off, but not the Wachowski's, not after they had all the resources and money in the world to do parts 2 and 3 and came up with what they did.  



LOTR

Of course, it was actually intended to be a trilogy.
2/24/2005 6:49:55 PM EDT
[#16]
I'd love to see a second trilogy about the lead up to and the initial war with the machines.  Although the blackening the sky and using humans as batteries makes so little sense that it would be hard to see in a movie. Like I wish the architect would have told Neo in the second one, "You are mistaken as to the purpose of the Matrix, our power generation needs are saw too by fusion power plants, the Matrix, is merely a monument to our creators, our last showing of gratitude saving or parents so to speek from extinction" or something to that effect. Would made me able to swallow the movie so much more....
2/24/2005 6:51:18 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
If the 2nd and 3rd one hadnt sucked Id say yes

2/24/2005 6:54:14 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
NO!

The first one was brillant and groundbreaking.  The second one (since they were parts 1 and 2 I consider them just one long film) lost their way.

Can anyone think of ANY multi-part film series that could equal or top what came before (besides Alien/Aliens, Terminator/T2 or Godfather/Godfather2)?

I can't off the top of my head other than those.




Blade, Rambo........
2/24/2005 6:54:22 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
HELL NO!

The first one kicked ass.

The Animatrix was an EXCELLENT collection of short stories.

The second and third films were lukewarm, at best.



I would say just put our more Animatrix like work.

If a movie had to be made. Make the Second Renaissance into a good movie with asskicking special effects.
2/24/2005 6:55:10 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
I'd love to see a second trilogy about the lead up to and the initial war with the machines.  Although the blackening the sky and using humans as batteries makes so little sense that it would be hard to see in a movie. Like I wish the architect would have told Neo in the second one, "You are mistaken as to the purpose of the Matrix, our power generation needs are saw too by fusion power plants, the Matrix, is merely a monument to our creators, our last showing of gratitude saving or parents so to speek from extinction" or something to that effect. Would made me able to swallow the movie so much more....



That was taken care of in the Animatrix. The Second Renaissance.
2/24/2005 6:55:42 PM EDT
[#21]
hell no
2/24/2005 6:57:09 PM EDT
[#22]
Matrix 2 and 3 sucked.   Please, no more.


2/24/2005 6:57:24 PM EDT
[#23]
+2

The original film was such an original twist that it really made you think - lots of analogies with the real world in there.

The story ended with Revolutions.  As much as I would love to see these characters return, I don't think there is any way to do it.  The story could continue from where Revolutions ended, but it will never hit as hard as the 1st movie.
2/24/2005 6:58:01 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Is there room in the plot for another?



Which plot?

You mean the plot of the first
movie? Or do you mean the
thing that was missing from
the other two?

It is obvious that the Wachoski(sp)
brothers stole the idea for the
original since we can see their
scary "talent" in the next two.


2/24/2005 7:01:08 PM EDT
[#25]
The problem with the matrix series is easy to summarize.


The first one was believable. I know that after I left the theater, I was thinking to myself "wow, this could be happening and I would have no idea.."


The other two were so far out there that they destroyed what the matrix series could have been.
2/24/2005 7:03:39 PM EDT
[#26]
The original was groundbreaking, thought provoking, and fantastic. The second was okay, as mindless entertainment. The third was wretched dreck.  I do not wish to extrapolate on how bad number four would be.
2/24/2005 7:03:51 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Matrix 2 and 3 sucked.   Please, no more.





+1
2/24/2005 7:06:41 PM EDT
[#28]
I dont want to see that freak in a black trench coat and sun glasses, doing lame ass kung-fu moves!! All of the Matrix movies sucked, I hate K. Reeves...
2/24/2005 7:07:53 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
I'd love to see a second trilogy about the lead up to and the initial war with the machines.  Although the blackening the sky and using humans as batteries makes so little sense that it would be hard to see in a movie. Like I wish the architect would have told Neo in the second one, "You are mistaken as to the purpose of the Matrix, our power generation needs are saw too by fusion power plants, the Matrix, is merely a monument to our creators, our last showing of gratitude saving or parents so to speek from extinction" or something to that effect. Would made me able to swallow the movie so much more....



I was actually hoping for a plot twist like that.  I was willing to suspend dibelief on the better sources of power, but why, if humans were such a struggle, could they not just use the energy from other animals - assuming animal energy was needed?

The first movie opened so many possibilities regarding philosophy, self-determination, free will, fate, etc.  I expected deeper stuff in the sequels.  Instead, it's as if the producers only stumbled upon the apparent depth by accident.
2/24/2005 7:09:56 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
If the 2nd and 3rd one hadnt sucked Id say yes



+1
2/24/2005 7:10:24 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
NO!

The first one was brillant and groundbreaking.  The second one (since they were parts 1 and 2 I consider them just one long film) lost their way.

Can anyone think of ANY multi-part film series that could equal or top what came before (besides Alien/Aliens, Terminator/T2 or Godfather/Godfather2)?

I can't off the top of my head other than those.




Blade, Rambo........



Nope - Airwolf covered pretty much all of 'em, IMHO.  Of course [the original], Dawn of the Dead might be up there for pure fun's sake.  Maybe The Road Warrior.
2/24/2005 7:16:00 PM EDT
[#32]
Shouldn't the real question be:  Should there ever be another movie with Keanu Reeves in it?
2/24/2005 7:18:11 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
No way. The first one and the Animatrix were the only good ones.



My feelings exactly.
2/24/2005 7:18:28 PM EDT
[#34]
No. The war is over. Leave it be.
2/24/2005 7:18:33 PM EDT
[#35]
What's with all of the hating on Keanu Reaves?

Did I miss something?
2/24/2005 7:23:17 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
What's with all of the hating on Keanu Reaves?

Did I miss something?



Well, I actually like the first "Bill and Ted" movie - corny as it was.

That being said... Keanu iz bad Juju...
2/24/2005 7:24:31 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
What's with all of the hating on Keanu Reaves?

Did I miss something?



Whoa.

2/24/2005 7:27:36 PM EDT
[#38]
No.
2/24/2005 7:33:57 PM EDT
[#39]
Not to hijack this thread but....

I just received the Matrix Box set and it contains ANIMATRIX.  Should I even bother watching it?
2/25/2005 11:31:12 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'd love to see a second trilogy about the lead up to and the initial war with the machines.  Although the blackening the sky and using humans as batteries makes so little sense that it would be hard to see in a movie. Like I wish the architect would have told Neo in the second one, "You are mistaken as to the purpose of the Matrix, our power generation needs are saw too by fusion power plants, the Matrix, is merely a monument to our creators, our last showing of gratitude saving or parents so to speek from extinction" or something to that effect. Would made me able to swallow the movie so much more....



I was actually hoping for a plot twist like that.  I was willing to suspend dibelief on the better sources of power, but why, if humans were such a struggle, could they not just use the energy from other animals - assuming animal energy was needed?

The first movie opened so many possibilities regarding philosophy, self-determination, free will, fate, etc.  I expected deeper stuff in the sequels.  Instead, it's as if the producers only stumbled upon the apparent depth by accident.



i'll second (or third) that.  the first film opened a new vista, and i was counting on the second to broaden it--to cause us to recast our assumptions yet again.  instead, it seemed as though the the filmmakers fell into the same trap as lucas did, i.e., "we finally have enough budget to do REALLY COOL action scenes."  this phenomenon usually removes the premium from good writing and good story.  as orson welles put it, "the absence of limitation is the enemy of art."

to my mind, two most powerful vignettes from anamatrix were the suicide and the sprinter.  either of those could have been made in live-action for a pittance.  one would have thought that the W brothers learned something from this.

sadly, they didn't.
2/25/2005 11:32:24 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
Not to hijack this thread but....

I just received the Matrix Box set and it contains ANIMATRIX.  Should I even bother watching it?



without question, yes.  incredibly thought-provoking, and some very cool anime.
2/25/2005 11:33:33 AM EDT
[#42]
They should remake 2 and 3 with some intelligence.