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2/10/2005 11:43:40 AM EDT
I'm looking to upgrade the system memory of my 2 year old computer.  It is a home-built w/a 478-pin P4 (2.4Ghz) mated to an IWILL P4R533-N motherboard.  Right now I have all four memory slots filled, each containing (1) Samsung 128MB PC1066 DRDRAM, totalling 512MB's.

What I want to do is double its system memory to 1024MB's.  Before I can do this I have a few questions.

1. The specs on my motherboard says it supports PC800 and PC1066 DRDRAM.  What is the difference between 800 and 1066 and what should I be putting in my memory slots?

2. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the P4 require mirrored memory? Meaning a pair of 256MB sticks, for example, must be used.  Does this mean that I have to fill all four slots with 256MB sticks or can I fill two slots with 256MB and the other two with two existing 128MB sticks (totalling 768MB).  Also, what if I chose to buy (2) 512MB sticks instead, leaving the other two slots open for a future upgrade of up to 2Gb if I so desire?

I really appreciate any help and/or advice.  If you need more information from me please let me know.
2/10/2005 11:46:48 AM EDT
[#1]
First thing you need to know is how much memory your motherboard will support. Once you know that, I would suggest filling it to capacity. No such thing as too much memory. I've not heard of any mirrored memory thing but that doesn't mean it isn't true. That may be something specific to your motherboard. As far as which to use, bigger numbers are better.
2/10/2005 11:53:07 AM EDT
[#2]
The 1066 ram is faster, I would go with 2x 512MB PC1066 Kingston RDRAM.
RDRAM modules must be used in identical pairs. The P4R533 will support up to 2GB of RDRAM memory
2/10/2005 11:56:55 AM EDT
[#3]

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The 1066 ram is faster, I would go with 2x 512MB PC1066 Kingston RDRAM.
RDRAM modules must be used in identical pairs and inserted into the right sets of RIMM slots. The P4R533 will support up to 2GB of RDRAM memory



Okay so there is some truth to the mirrored memory thing. Wasn't aware of that. Thanks for building on what I said
2/10/2005 11:59:52 AM EDT
[#4]
Crucial.com will tell you exactly the type of RAM you can use.


ByteTheBullet  (-:
2/10/2005 12:02:27 PM EDT
[#5]

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...Also, what if I chose to buy (2) 512MB sticks instead, leaving the other two slots open for a future upgrade of up to 2Gb if I so desire?



Bingo. As stated here:


Quoted:
The 1066 ram is faster, I would go with 2x 512MB PC1066 Kingston RDRAM.
RDRAM modules must be used in identical pairs. The P4R533 will support up to 2GB of RDRAM memory



Or Crucial.
2/10/2005 12:02:36 PM EDT
[#6]
From the Rambus website, Google is your friend. Rambus Memory FAQ


Q: Do I need to upgrade the memory modules in my PC systems in pairs?
A: Before purchasing, note whether your system takes 16 bit or 32 bit RIMM modules, and whether your computer is a dual-channel or 4-channel system. For 4-channel RDRAM chipsets and motherboards, memory module upgrades should be in matched pairs. For instance, to add 512MByte of memory into a dual or 4-channel system, two matched 256MByte modules should be inserted.

For dual-channel RDRAM chipsets and motherboards, memory module upgrades should be in matched pairs. Please look at your PC or motherboard user manual for details. Please check with your motherboard vendor for detailed information.

For best performance, it is recommended that the largest modules be placed in the first pair of slots nearest the memory controller - i.e. if you have a pair of 512MB modules and a pair of 128MB modules, it's best to put the 512MB modules in the first slot.

Q: If I have a Dual Channel Rambus system, can I only purchase one RIMM module to upgrade my system?
A: Before purchasing, note whether your system takes 16 bit or 32 bit RIMM modules. Please check with your motherboard vendor for detailed information. In most case you must upgrade each channel equally. 32bit RIMM modules, such as RIMM 4200, 4800, 6400 modules can be upgraded singly on dual channel systems.

2/10/2005 12:03:31 PM EDT
[#7]
If you decide to go with just 2 modules, the empty slots will need to be filled with "terminators".
Check to see if these came with the system. They look like regular memory modules without any chips on them.
2/10/2005 12:19:21 PM EDT
[#8]
Don’t upgrade that system

DO NOT DO IT. I have been there RDRAM is so expensive and with little real benefit it ain’t worth doing.

It will cost you $300-350 to upgrade that system to 1GB.

You can get a new 478 motherboard and 1 GB PC 3200 a LOT cheaper than upgrading the RDRAM.

1GB dual channel PC3200 runs less than $150.
A new good 478 motherboard will run you $100.

Do the math.
2/10/2005 12:21:26 PM EDT
[#9]
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Crucial.com will tell you exactly the type of RAM you can use.
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Crucial does not sell Rambus
2/10/2005 12:28:22 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Crucial.com will tell you exactly the type of RAM you can use.
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Crucial does not sell Rambus



One of the reasons it is so expensive.
2/10/2005 12:40:40 PM EDT
[#11]
Seriously if you do the 1 GB RDRAM upgrade now at $300-350+ and the later and another 1GB at $300-350+ you are talking $600-700+ for just a memory upgrades on a 2 year old motherboard. That is eough to buil a new computer.

Right now you can buy a new 478 motherboard and the 2GB ram upgrade for $400. And on the new motherboard you can get Serial ATA, USB 2.0, Firewire, RAID if you want and a motherboard you can upgrade to future processors.

With the old motherboard you are pouring money down a dead end black hole. I know I dealt with the same issue a couple of months ago the dollars to upgrade the old machine made the choice for me. So I bought a new Athlon64 processor, new motherboard, and 1GB ram for about what it would have cost me to upgrade my RDRAM machine to 1 GB.
2/10/2005 12:53:19 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
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Crucial.com will tell you exactly the type of RAM you can use.
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Crucial does not sell Rambus



One of the reasons it is so expensive.



Crucial doesn’t sell it because it is proprietary and they don’t want to pay Rambus’ exorbanite licensing fees.
2/10/2005 1:00:30 PM EDT
[#13]
Ewwww .....rambus

spend the money on a new(er) mobo and some decent ram. 3200 or DDR2