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1/22/2005 7:05:54 PM EDT
I came across a website for Harbor Freight Tools the other day, and was surprised at how low the prices are on most of their tools.  Most of their stuff is less than half of what comparable Craftsman tools cost.

Are their tools any good?  Or am I better off spending more money and getting Craftsman?

1/22/2005 7:09:03 PM EDT
[#1]

craftmen has good wrenches.. the rest sucks...

Harbor frieght is china tools...  but sometimes worth buying..  I wouldnt use any power
tools from them unless they were name brand..  

I'm a Milwakee man here...

Realist out
1/22/2005 7:10:05 PM EDT
[#2]
no powr tools...the rest is hit and miss


SGtar15
1/22/2005 7:10:13 PM EDT
[#3]
Harbor Freight Tools are probably made in the PRC, to me they are okay if you seldom use them, like maybe for a home tool box, but if you use them extensively or under heavy-duty conditions they may fail are the worst possible moment.
1/22/2005 7:11:15 PM EDT
[#4]
Direct from a ChiCom harbor to you.
And they thank you for supporrting their military buildup.
1/22/2005 7:11:30 PM EDT
[#5]
Made in China

I have bought some stuff from them, I would say the tools are acceptable for light use. Don't think they would hold up to daily use in a professional shop.
1/22/2005 7:13:03 PM EDT
[#6]
They have store fronts in some towns.  Their products seem to be made in China quite a bit.  I can't rant against them, but I suggest you look before you leap.
1/22/2005 7:14:21 PM EDT
[#7]
Got all kinds of other tools, angle grinder, bench grinder, impact wrench, mortising press, vertical belt sander, disk sander, All work exelently.
1/22/2005 7:15:23 PM EDT
[#8]
Almost all PRC stuff.

OK for casual/homeowner use or when you need some odd tool for a single or infrequent use.  Wouldn't consider them for anything "serious".
1/22/2005 7:18:05 PM EDT
[#9]
Harbor Freight tools are horrible quality (for the most part).  I have had nothing but problems and failures with things I have bought there.  There is definitely a reason they are so cheap.
1/22/2005 7:20:16 PM EDT
[#10]
I saw in a short news clip here in Los Angeles, that a man was killed by a PRC engine host, when it fell and crushed him to death.
1/22/2005 7:20:31 PM EDT
[#11]
What? Horrible Fright tools? Buy, use them a little, toss them.
1/22/2005 7:22:50 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Got all kinds of other tools, angle grinder, bench grinder, impact wrench, mortising press, vertical belt sander, disk sander, All work exelently.




I've got a shipmate that swears by them based on Bang for the buck.

He does NOT use them professionally.
1/22/2005 7:23:30 PM EDT
[#13]
I have quite a few tools from HF. I haven't really had any trouble from any of them except an impact socket set. one of the sockets cracked. It had a lifetime guarantee so they replaced it.

Sua Sponte
1/22/2005 7:25:16 PM EDT
[#14]
mostly shit. they have some odd ball stuff which is good for feild tools or tinkering. dental picks, punches,  cheap-o files they you won't care about breaking. I wouldn't depend on them to feed my family by any means.

J
1/22/2005 7:26:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Almost everything sold by harbor freight is straight from china. I'm not saying this is bad, but the quality of the tools does vary alot. It would be better to inspect before you buy.
I prefer craftsman handtools because I'm a mechanic and I break and wear them out on a regular basis. I only pay once and use them for a lifetime!

This really depends on how you use your tools, chinese may last a lifetime for some folks.    
1/22/2005 7:26:20 PM EDT
[#16]
They are good for weekend tinkerers, thats all.
1/22/2005 7:28:28 PM EDT
[#17]
made in China, Pakistan or india junk. Good for one time use and ballast.
1/22/2005 7:28:55 PM EDT
[#18]
Only thing Ive ever bought from there was a set of safty ear muffs, the electronic ones. They
work as good as my dads 300.00 set and they where only 24.00 ...... I use them for shooting all the time and they havnt let me go deaf yet.
1/22/2005 7:34:52 PM EDT
[#19]
There is nothing worse than not having the right tool for the
job at hand.  Yes there is, it is having what you think is the right
tool, only to have it break under pressure.

When thinking Harbor Freight, I suggest you calculate the cost, and
shipping/tax, take that $ and simply flush it down the toilet.  Really.

You will be out the same amount of $, but won't have to deal with
thinking you have the required tool, but then realizing you have a
weak pot-metal immitation of the required tool.

A tool you can't trust is just as bad whether the tool is a socket or
the tool is a carry weapon.

As always, YMMV.

DanM
1/22/2005 7:35:08 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
I prefer craftsman handtools because I'm a mechanic and I break and wear them out on a regular basis. I only pay once and use them for a lifetime!



When I'm working with my brothers 1970, I always break sockets on rusted bolts. Just send them to Craftsman fro new ones.
1/22/2005 7:35:38 PM EDT
[#21]
HF Tool stores can be found in most major cities in SoCal.

Almost 100% Chinese made stuff. All pretty cheap and definitely not for the professional. (mechanic or even serious hobbiest).

I have no problem with keeping chicom tools in an emergency road kit 'cause they're almost 100% reliable for at least 10 times use or less as long as extreme torque/pressure isn't being exerted on them. They make great throw away tools and are much cheaper than quality expensive tools.

Good uses for them? Road side repairs, trips to the junkyard/wrecking yard, loaning to deadbeat friends/relatives/neighbors who never return tools, modifying for special purposes, etc. Cheap tools are great for these circumstances 'cause it's better to lose a $2 dollar chicom wrench than a $22 Snap On wrench.

A professional buys quality tools for his profession or working on his pride and joy.
1/22/2005 7:37:19 PM EDT
[#22]
I went to the Harbor Freight store in San Antonio about two years ago, looking for a specific size drift pin.

I didn't find the drift pin.

But I did find a store full of junk tools.
1/22/2005 7:50:00 PM EDT
[#23]
Same as others said; Not top quality, but good for occasional use in the home. I don't order online though, preferring to go in and look at the stuff first. They work fine for me.
1/22/2005 7:52:44 PM EDT
[#24]
CHEAP shit chinese junk.


We have their store locally, I could hardly find anything worth buying
1/22/2005 8:00:02 PM EDT
[#25]
I have found the harbor freight tools perfect for working on my  Vulcan arms (with original preban Hesse receiver) AR.

Actually, in all seriousness, I think this is a fair comparision:
Harbor freight is to craftsman as hesse is to bushmaster.  
There is nothing wrong with buying cheap AR parts, as long as you realize what you are getting, and are willing to sacrifice some reliability or longevity for saving some money, and HF tools are the same way.

I am about to replace the clutch/flywheel in my truck, and am ordering a transmission jack attachment from HF to do it with.  It costs $50, and I will probably use it only two or three times, but it will save me the $500 it would cost to have someone else do the job.  
1/22/2005 8:11:57 PM EDT
[#26]
What are some American companies where I can buy quality tools from?
1/22/2005 8:12:57 PM EDT
[#27]
A lot of tools from Sams Club and Northern Hydraulic is also cheap shit. Buyer beware.
Good for rare use but garbage if your using it to make a living
1/22/2005 8:14:04 PM EDT
[#28]
I usually buy Craftsman but Harbor Freight and Northern Tools have some stuff you won't find anywhere else.  I bought a big blue tarp for instance I use to spread out on my range to catch all the brass.  Some stuff doesn't last all that long or worthy of buying domestic anyhow, cheap stuff like oil funnels, gas cans and such
1/22/2005 8:14:56 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
I am about to replace the clutch/flywheel in my truck, and am ordering a transmission jack attachment from HF to do it with.  It costs $50, and I will probably use it only two or three times, but it will save me the $500 it would cost to have someone else do the job.  



Good point.  
1/22/2005 8:54:00 PM EDT
[#30]
Harbor Freight sells cheap Chinese made crap that used to be cheap USA made crap.
It's made on the same machines that used to be in the industrial heartland of the US before the  EPA or OSHA (or both) proclaimed them to be harmful to the enviroment or the worker (or both).
American companies either moved their manufacturing facilities and equipment to China or sold  them outright to China.
1/22/2005 9:14:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Sorry to rain on your parade here but I buy a bunch of 100% AMERICAN made TOOLS @ HF.

Bought both Eklind Tool and Bondus Allen wrenches, Channel lock Plier sets, and Crescent tools.

These tools were 5% cheaper than thru my normal supplier and would not require additional shipping charges since I was buying at a store front location.

I bought a cheap air compressor for home use, but otherwise would not invest in there power tools.

I also buy lots of Amflo air fitting there. ( not the cheap chicom brass crap )

There is good value to be found if you want to take time to wade thru the rest of the crap.
1/22/2005 9:16:23 PM EDT
[#32]
Digital calipers are $14.99 at Harbor Freight compared to $60+ through Dillon.  
1/22/2005 9:21:45 PM EDT
[#33]
Nothing more to add that hasn't been said...

I go to the store once in a while to buy mostly disposable brushes, zip ties, and similar throw away items. I have two dead blow hammers that I use for furniture assembly and a detail HVLP spray gun - those are the only tools I bought from them. Haven't had any problems so far with anything I've bought.
1/22/2005 9:27:40 PM EDT
[#34]
We've got one of them stores here in Nashville...it's a good place to buy cheap diposable stuff like brushes, small knives for a buck etc. Don't buy your tools from there unless it's a gift
1/22/2005 9:35:22 PM EDT
[#35]
I find lots of US/Canadian made stuff at the local Harbour freight. Lots of Chinese made stuff too.

Good prices. No problems with anything (mostly hand tools) I have bought there.
1/22/2005 9:37:12 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I am about to replace the clutch/flywheel in my truck, and am ordering a transmission jack attachment from HF to do it with.  It costs $50, and I will probably use it only two or three times, but it will save me the $500 it would cost to have someone else do the job.  



Good point.  



Yep, I use HF for big stuff that will save a lot of bucks up front (compressor, shop crane, sandblasting cabinet, etc).  For tools I use on a more regular basis (wrenches, etc), I go to a more reputable source.
1/22/2005 9:40:14 PM EDT
[#37]
I've got a mini mill, that, while not being a harbor freight model, came from the same factory in china, is virtually identical to, and pretty much every part is interchangle with, the harbor freight model.

It has a few quirks, and I definitly wouldn't plan on using it to make a living (mostly because its WAY too small for production work).  But overall, I've been VERY happy with it.



But most of their stuff looks like junk, even in the little pictures.
1/22/2005 9:53:09 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
I came across a website for Harbor Freight Tools the other day, and was surprised at how low the prices are on most of their tools.  Most of their stuff is less than half of what comparable Craftsman tools cost.

Are their tools any good?  Or am I better off spending more money and getting Craftsman?


Their quality is less than half that of Craftsman.

Harbor Freight is a great affordable source for odd tools you'd only use once a year, or for good bargains on fungible goods like abrasives, blades, etc.
1/22/2005 10:28:53 PM EDT
[#39]
disposable.  Good for a few uses but don't expect it to last.

Hell, they even offer extended warranties on their crap now.  Cheaper to buy another than pay for their extended warranty.
1/23/2005 4:18:40 AM EDT
[#40]
I keep some HF tools in my box at work - expendable and loaner tools.  How fast and in what condition they are returned let me know who I could trust with the real high $$$ stuff.
1/23/2005 4:24:39 AM EDT
[#41]
If you just need a set of tools for a small project, then HF is a good choice.
Example: full set of masonry tools, piece by piece at Home Depot costs around $100
sold piece by piece or as a complete kit for around $20
1/23/2005 4:26:52 AM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
A lot of tools from Sams Club and Northern Hydraulic is also cheap shit. Buyer beware.
Good for rare use but garbage if your using it to make a living



a note on air tools - Northern and Craftsman use the same manufacturer on some of their products (they look amost identical)
but just because they use the same mfgr, and they look alike, does not mean they are the same inside
1/23/2005 4:33:40 AM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
A lot of tools from Sams Club and Northern Hydraulic is also cheap shit. Buyer beware.
Good for rare use but garbage if your using it to make a living



a note on air tools - Northern and Craftsman use the same manufacturer on some of their products (they look amost identical)
but just because they use the same mfgr, and they look alike, does not mean they are the same inside



+1, I heard a Trucker bitching about hauling Diehard Batteries. He said they are much heavier than regular batteries.

To get a cheap price you have to cut cost somewhere. Please BUY AMERICAN! We (As Americans) can't survive this trend.
1/23/2005 4:38:16 AM EDT
[#44]
I dont buy HF tools, but they got a lot of nice miscellaneous crap that I like to get there.
1/23/2005 4:59:08 AM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:
Please BUY AMERICAN! We (As Americans) can't survive this trend.



WORD.
1/23/2005 5:08:40 AM EDT
[#46]

...with original preban Hesse receiver) AR....


There is no such thing as a preban Hesse.  Hesse did not come into existence until well after the 94 AWB was enacted.
1/23/2005 5:53:31 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
What are some American companies where I can buy quality tools from?



I use Klein and Channel Locks at work.  My back ups for work are still in the package, and they say, "Made in the USA."

1/23/2005 6:00:48 AM EDT
[#48]
I'd agree with the others: much of their stuff is fine for occasional use, especially if you're a shad-tree mechanic that just loves to have all the tools.

For semi-pro or professional use they are out of the question.
1/23/2005 6:00:58 AM EDT
[#49]
I used to keep some HF tools in my "loaner" box at work. Craftsman were kept locked up unless I was there.
1/23/2005 6:01:12 AM EDT
[#50]
I would buy them for that "only need it this one time" job.

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