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1/2/2005 12:31:58 PM EDT
Ok here is the story..

I found some porn websites in my history on IE. This is not that big of a issue as I brouse them every now and again

Well this morning I found that the volume was turned down on the modem along with 7 porn sites that I have never been to(and neither has the wife).

I think my son(13) has been on the computer while I was sleeping, which would not be a problem except he has done this in the past, and that is why he has no internet.

I understand he is 13 and wants to look a naked chicks, but before I accuse him again I need to know if there is a log to tell me the time my computer has been on, as I turn the computer off every night and the porn surfing in question happened at 0245 AM.

I need to make sure before I will ask him anything.

Thanks
 FREE

1/2/2005 12:37:03 PM EDT
[#1]
Well if it happened at 0245, what more proof do you need?  It ain't a court of law, you just have to THINK the little bugger did it.
1/2/2005 12:37:55 PM EDT
[#2]
goto. Start->run> type "eventvwr.exe"  then click ok.

This will give you some time events- but not startup & shutdown. Its a start.
1/2/2005 12:38:48 PM EDT
[#3]
Yeah, no definitive proof needed, this isnt a court of law.  

Arent you preemptively grounding him for stuff he did but you dont know about, anyway?

Kharn
1/2/2005 12:39:14 PM EDT
[#4]
Event viewer can help. A little more info would be helpful. OS and do you 'log in' to the computer?


ByteTheBullet  (-:
1/2/2005 12:39:39 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Ok here is the story..

I found some porn websites in my history on IE. This is not that big of a issue as I brouse them every now and again

Well this morning I found that the volume was turned down on the modem along with 7 porn sites that I have never been to(and neither has the wife).

I think my son(13) has been on the computer while I was sleeping, which would not be a problem except he has done this in the past, and that is why he has no internet.

I understand he is 13 and wants to look a naked chicks, but before I accuse him again I need to know if there is a log to tell me the time my computer has been on, as I turn the computer off every night and the porn surfing in question happened at 0245 AM.

I need to make sure before I will ask him anything.

Thanks
 FREE





1/2/2005 12:41:59 PM EDT
[#6]
Dang.
When I was a kid we just had to be careful not to wrinkle the pages.
1/2/2005 12:43:18 PM EDT
[#7]
Who cares?  As long as he does not pay for anything it should be fine.

That is what I think.

Put a password on if you want it to stop.
1/2/2005 12:43:39 PM EDT
[#8]
Well, at least you know he's not interested in men.

But, if the websites in question were accessed after you went to bed... Well, do you even need any more proof?
1/2/2005 12:45:50 PM EDT
[#9]
Like father like son.
1/2/2005 12:46:23 PM EDT
[#10]
Just do something like this

Make a text file that says something like
I KNOW YOUR LOOKING AT PORN!$!

Save it to the desktop. then goto start>run> and punch in win.ini

under load= or run= put in C:\windows\desktop\NameOfTextFileHere.txt

if something is already in run or load just pop in a comma and a space and put it there .. i believe


It will pop up after windows loads in


Dunno if this would work with XP..
1/2/2005 12:47:10 PM EDT
[#11]
You need a key logger.

www.mikkotech.com/keykey.html

The trial for this program is not hidden. Given that he does not hide his porn surfing trail, he may not even notice the key logger running. You may be able to catch the bugger before the trial expires and save $30 bucks. Good luck.
1/2/2005 12:47:37 PM EDT
[#12]
If the time that the websites were visited where when you were asleep, and no one else is in the house, that's all the proof you need. You can set content settings with a password, or set your computer to be passworded (if its win XP make sure you have an admin, and user password, because if you dont set an admin password, it's still VERY easy to get into). If you have any version of windows other than XP, you need to set a password from the BIOS, as all you have to do is hit ESC to get past the password of older windows versions without using an OEM program.
1/2/2005 12:48:49 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Just do something like this

Make a text file that says something like
I KNOW YOUR LOOKING AT PORN!$!

Save it to the desktop. then goto start>run> and punch in win.ini

under load= or run= put in C:\windows\desktop\NameOfTextFileHere.txt

if something is already in run or load just pop in a comma and a space and put it there .. i believe


It will pop up after windows loads in



Walk by his room and say, "You really need to learn how to get rid of evidence! You didn't even delete the history files on the sites you visited!"

I bet you his eyes will bug out with that "Oh crap!" look.
1/2/2005 12:49:34 PM EDT
[#14]
The history logs for your browser are all you need.

I would suggest going to password protection.

That, or a good ass beating.

CJ
1/2/2005 12:50:07 PM EDT
[#15]
There are plenty of free key loggers available on the web. They will silently log every keystroke, web page, url, IM, email, etc on your computer.....
1/2/2005 12:50:49 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Just do something like this

Make a text file that says something like
I KNOW YOUR LOOKING AT PORN!$!

Save it to the desktop. then goto start>run> and punch in win.ini

under load= or run= put in C:\windows\desktop\NameOfTextFileHere.txt

if something is already in run or load just pop in a comma and a space and put it there .. i believe


It will pop up after windows loads in



I think it would be better to change the IE shortcut destination to a notepad file and do just what you said! That would be great, or even if you use a separate modem shortcut to log on, set it to bring up a document that says "I KNOW YOU ARE LOOKING AT NAKED PEOPLE!"
1/2/2005 12:51:16 PM EDT
[#17]
I had some spyware on my machine so I cant be 100% sure. I will try you suggestions. Im also not 100% sure the computer was off on the date the sites were visited.

I will try the event logger.

Thanks
 FREE



1/2/2005 12:55:19 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
I had some spyware on my machine so I cant be 100% sure. I will try you suggestions. Im also not 100% sure the computer was off on the date the sites were visited.

I will try the event logger.

Thanks
 FREE






Hm, is there more than one page on each site in the history? Usually spyware would just bring up one, but if there are different pages within the same site, then most likely it was surfed, and not just the computer doing it.
1/2/2005 1:05:30 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
There are plenty of free key loggers available on the web. They will silently log every keystroke, web page, url, IM, email, etc on your computer.....



+1,000

Especially since he is hitting puberty.  You need to know about everything he is doing online.

Perfect Keylogger

Buy the full version.  I own it and highly recommend it.  It will tell you everything you need to know.
1/2/2005 1:09:14 PM EDT
[#20]
I had that problem with my step son. I tried several things to correct this behavior, which kept recurring.

A BIOS password didn't correct the behavior except on that particular computer.

So I bought some software that monitors internet sites.

The first time I caught him. I confronted him privately. And warned him that if he did it again I would inform his mother, and show her the pictures he looked at.

Sure enough, he tried it again, I then had a second confrontation, and showed the Mother, with the boy present.

Needless to say, the mother reamed the kid a new asshole and took away all of the kids Sony Playstation Games, and Computer Games (this was very painful) for him.

I also had the kid sit through a sermon by our pastor on WHY watching Porn is addictive and can destroy families, and corrupt people. And I warned the kid that next time I would set up an appointment for him with his youth pastor for counseling. I also talked about the legality of him watching Porn, and the illegality of some types of porn. I also told him that I would tell his Grandmother, and show her any pictures he looked at.

But the power of porn over a teenager with raging hormones was just too strong. And sure enough the kid too dumb to learn from his experience, tried it again.

Another confrontation ensued, this time with the kid's Grandparents. In addition to a repeat of past punishment, the kid was incredibly embarrassed and shamed.
We then displayed some mercy on him and told him if he was a really good boy we wouldn't tell his youth pastor.

To the best of my knowledge the kid stopped his behavior.

My experience with teenagers, is that they will keep testing, and repeatiing a set of behavior that brings about undesirable punishment, even though they know what form of punishment such behavior will incur. And they will tolerate the punishment only stopping once they have reached their threshold.

Typical teenage behavior is that they ignore advice from their parents but listen to their peers. If you are careful about who your kid associates with after school, it will go a long way in ensuring correct behavior. It is during the teenage years that children are forming their own set of morality and code of ethics, as they form their own personality, and self image.


1/2/2005 1:37:15 PM EDT
[#21]
Thanks everyone he is gulity.

Ass beating will be in a few minutes.

Thanks
  FREE
1/2/2005 1:46:39 PM EDT
[#22]
you can invest in a program like specter it will monitor all activity, you can also use it to block web sites or any of the messenger  type programs.this can be set to be hidden and only be visible after a hot key is entered.
1/2/2005 1:47:36 PM EDT
[#23]

Don't go too hard on him.  

1/2/2005 1:50:18 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Well this morning I found that the volume was turned down on the modem




What in the WORLD does that mean??
1/2/2005 1:51:25 PM EDT
[#25]
Just search the laundry hamper for crusty socks.
1/2/2005 1:53:03 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well this morning I found that the volume was turned down on the modem




What in the WORLD does that mean??



On an external dial up modem, or some internals it plays what the modem "hears" during the dial up phase so you can hear if the modem is dialing, connecting etc, if you turn down the volume on the modem no-one can hear if you are dialing up the internet.
1/2/2005 1:53:33 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well this morning I found that the volume was turned down on the modem




What in the WORLD does that mean??



It means he still uses dial-up and someone turned down the volume so that he doesn't hear the squeak-squonk-squeak noises a dial-up modem makes when it negotiates a connection.
1/2/2005 1:53:39 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well this morning I found that the volume was turned down on the modem




What in the WORLD does that mean??



So nobody in the house can hear the MODEM dialing out and connecting.
1/2/2005 1:54:56 PM EDT
[#29]
Some of you guys are a little too porn paranoid.....I guess if it was really deviant stuff I would be concerned, but hell, part of being a teenager is looking at naked womenz.

FREE, kick his ass for trying to be deceitful, but explain to him the birds and bees business so he learns from the right source.
1/2/2005 1:56:05 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
Thanks everyone he is gulity.

Ass beating will be in a few minutes.

Thanks
  FREE




Get Norton Internet Security (can find on ebay for < $20) and it will allow you to set security levels for websites, age, privacy, etc.  Each user has to log into thier settings for it and you can have it default to any level when the PC starts, right down to NO access at all.

Works great to protect my kids from getting where they are not suppossed to be, either intentionally or accidentally.
1/2/2005 1:58:32 PM EDT
[#31]
Dont go to hard on him FREE.

He is your child , and I respect that, but at his age I a sure he has a ton of questions, just real embaressed to ask them.  Think back to when you was his age.

I can also see the point sneaking around on the internet, that can be a dangerous thing to do for a youngster.

This could be a good chance for a good father/son sit down talk. Heck, buy him a porn mag, playboy aint all that hard core.

Good luck.
1/2/2005 2:03:24 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well this morning I found that the volume was turned down on the modem




What in the WORLD does that mean??



On an external dial up modem, or some internals it plays what the modem "hears" during the dial up phase so you can hear if the modem is dialing, connecting etc, if you turn down the volume on the modem no-one can hear if you are dialing up the internet.




WOW I guess I am so many years removed from Hayes/POTS modems I didn't even think of that

I was thinking DSL modem / cable modem

So.. I stand corrected.
1/2/2005 2:03:29 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

....

And warned him that if he did it again I would inform his mother, and show her the pictures he looked at.

....

I also told him that I would tell his Grandmother, and show her any pictures he looked at.

....

Another confrontation ensued, this time with the kid's Grandparents. In addition to a repeat of past punishment, the kid was incredibly embarrassed and shamed.

....

To the best of my knowledge the kid stopped his behavior.



Damn dude.  The idea is to punish the kid, not kill granny from shock.

Your family might be different, but when The Neutral Observer imagines showing porn to his wife or mother/in-laws...that wouldn't go over well with them.  The Neutral Observer can't even imagine how badly that scenario would go...when he tries to picture it, he comes up with a black cloud of pure "bad".
1/2/2005 2:05:18 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
Dang.
When I was a kid we just had to be careful not to wrinkle the pages.


No kidding.
1/2/2005 2:05:32 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
Some of you guys are a little too porn paranoid.....I guess if it was really deviant stuff I would be concerned, but hell, part of being a teenager is looking at naked womenz.

FREE, kick his ass for trying to be deceitful, but explain to him the birds and bees business so he learns from the right source.



+1, and lose the computer and get a laptop and a gunsafe to put it in if you don't have one, the ultimate in controlling computer access .

I wish I had internet when I was 13
1/2/2005 2:06:11 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Like father like son.


1/2/2005 2:09:29 PM EDT
[#37]
Today's kids have it easy, when I was a kid I had to perv out on National Geographic!
1/2/2005 2:09:30 PM EDT
[#38]
When I was 13, I found a box of Hustler mags in a trash can.

I was caught eventually and had my ass kicked
1/2/2005 2:09:51 PM EDT
[#39]
Yea he is a good kid and I explained the birds and the bees to him and his brother.

The porn was not the big thing, the big thing was he was told not to.

I understand being 13, but the bottom line is I have rules, if he disobeys he gets punished/Ass beat.

FREE
1/2/2005 2:11:18 PM EDT
[#40]
 
    Porn sites are full of SPY-WARE , HIJACKERS and other bad shit .  Keep that in mind .
1/2/2005 2:21:08 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
Yea he is a good kid and I explained the birds and the bees to him and his brother.

The porn was not the big thing, the big thing was he was told not to.

I understand being 13, but the bottom line is I have rules, if he disobeys he gets punished/Ass beat.

FREE



Cool deal.....
1/2/2005 2:27:56 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
Don't go too hard on him.  




yea, or he'll turn gay  
1/2/2005 2:32:25 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
Dont go to hard on him FREE.

He is your child , and I respect that, but at his age I a sure he has a ton of questions, just real embaressed to ask them.  Think back to when you was his age.

I can also see the point sneaking around on the internet, that can be a dangerous thing to do for a youngster.

This could be a good chance for a good father/son sit down talk. Heck, buy him a porn mag, playboy aint all that hard core.

Good luck.



+1 on the playboy thing.  Tell him you'll get him a new one every now and then... theres shit he'd find out there that would even send a shiver down my spine.

JIM
1/2/2005 2:41:55 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
The porn was not the big thing, the big thing was he was told not to.

I understand being 13, but the bottom line is I have rules, if he disobeys he gets punished/Ass beat.

FREE



Kids learn from example.
1/2/2005 2:42:07 PM EDT
[#45]
Leave some lub next to the moniter and check to see if any of it is missing the next day.  

Or hell, just buy him a porno and explain it to him.  Watch it with him and make him feel as awkward as possible so that the next time he thinks of doing it he will think twice.  
1/2/2005 3:03:10 PM EDT
[#46]
i can give him some help for bypassing things.

sorry to tell you, the 13 y/o will eventually win. never underestimate him. he will find the tools and methods to bypassing whatever you do or plain just using another machine. good luck.

-foxxz
1/2/2005 3:09:52 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

I understand being 13, but the bottom line is I have rules, if he disobeys he gets punished/Ass beat.

FREE



that's the best thing I have heard all day... someone who enforces rules, unlike so many today...  
1/2/2005 3:32:40 PM EDT
[#48]
Free;

Good on him for trying...I would not give two hoots in Hell for a kid without the gumption to try...and Good on YOU for not allowing this...because parents have to be parents...and it is obvious you are a good one.

This is the way of the world, but you should never allow him to believe he can actually get away with it!

Welcome to parenthood...again!
1/2/2005 3:41:58 PM EDT
[#49]
START

CONTROL PANEL

INTERNET OPTIONS

SETTINGS

VIEW FILES

Shows all the cookies that were down loaded.  On the right hand side it will show you what time they were viewed.
1/2/2005 3:51:59 PM EDT
[#50]
FREEFALLE6, good luck.

My oldest turned 14 in October and we aqre going through some crap with him as we speak.

Wish me luck too.
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