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12/30/2004 10:52:56 PM EDT
I constantly deal with situations involving incompetent people making decisions. They aren't always incorrect decisions (as my granddad said, "even a blind hog gets an acorn now and again,") but they are very often immensely stupid. The model is like this:

Bob discovers a bomb in the mailroom at the office. It has a digital clock on it, presumably counting down the time till detonation. The readout upon discovery is "90:00:00." A quick glance at a nearby clock confirms that the "90" is hours rather than minutes or seconds. Beads of sweat form on Bob's brow. Bob does not know jack shit about bombs, electricity, or any other subject which might be useful in this situation. Bob whips out his pocketknife, and after 3 minutes of careful deliberation cuts the blue wire, blowing himself, the building, and its 1100 occupants to matchsticks.

Bob did not call the cops. Bob did not pull the fire alarm. Bob did not say to himself "I know nothing about this. Perhaps there are others more qualified than myself to choose the next step."

The model applies to everything from genuine emergencies to trivial matters. People seem largely incapable of figuring out what decisions need to be made, who should make them, and what they should be. I am amazed that there is an adequate breeding population of humans left on the planet.

That is all.

12/30/2004 10:54:01 PM EDT
[#1]
Stupid people keep you  employeed.

SGatr15
12/30/2004 10:55:09 PM EDT
[#2]
so you're saying that bob should cut the black wire?


and yes, stupid people are everywhere
12/30/2004 10:55:43 PM EDT
[#3]
Can you put the pin back in a grenade, after it has gone off?
12/30/2004 10:56:16 PM EDT
[#4]
I used to see that in techsupport all the time.  People can not understand the round plug goes in the round hole, or how to unplug something from the wall.

Rememeber these people drive, breed, and work jobs that is very scary.
12/30/2004 11:00:08 PM EDT
[#5]
You also forget that if Bob had disarmed it then Bob would have been on TV and a "celberity" until the end of the week.

This would have made Bob feel specail and been the highpoint of his life, it would outdo the sadness of paying bills, trying to buy and own stuff to make life "complete" and having his wife order him around.  

See if you try it yourself and suceed you can feel like your soo great and one other person might think that, until something shiny comes along.
12/30/2004 11:05:37 PM EDT
[#6]
$10 says Bob planted the bomb, changed his mind, and then forgot how he built the stupid thing.

Sgatr125
12/30/2004 11:07:45 PM EDT
[#7]
So what would happen if the bomb disposal unit
is called and the guy comes in and begins to defuse it,
and he cuts the Blue wire?

Would he be a professional dumbass?
12/30/2004 11:29:52 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
So what would happen if the bomb disposal unit
is called and the guy comes in and begins to defuse it,
and he cuts the Blue wire?

Would he be a professional dumbass?



Perhaps, but he would be using a defensible decision-making model, and he'd probably have used some of the 90 hours to evacuate the building.
12/30/2004 11:46:06 PM EDT
[#9]
Critical thinking is a learned skill. It's not being taught nowdays.

12/30/2004 11:49:45 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Stupid people keep you  employeed.

SGatr15



I have to repeat this to myself often, usually just before I say something totally rude and absolutely true to some nut who's convinced we're his personal security force against the black helicopters outside.
12/30/2004 11:52:28 PM EDT
[#11]
I would have cut the blue wire too.  Always cut the blue...
12/30/2004 11:54:40 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Stupid people keep you  employeed.

SGatr15



But these stupid people work jobs too, some I have seen works high paying jobs.  Other stupid ones live off goverment support.

So less stupid people would mean other open jobs and less taxes because the stupid people who formally used them are gone.
12/31/2004 4:00:28 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Critical thinking is a learned skill. It's not being taught nowdays.



Nor is analytical thinking.
12/31/2004 1:47:12 PM EDT
[#14]
I am also annoyed by people who are incapable of making any decisions.
12/31/2004 1:56:19 PM EDT
[#15]
fuck bob and the horse he...hey! wait a minute!!!

seriously, i think fully 95% of the human race is well below the threshold of 'moron'.
12/31/2004 3:28:41 PM EDT
[#16]


 Hey Bob might have fucked up but at least he made a decision! That's better than a lot  of people.
12/31/2004 3:34:06 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
fuck bob and the horse he...hey! wait a minute!!!

seriously, i think fully 95% of the human race is well below the threshold of 'moron'.



Good thing the other 5% of us found ARFCOM.
12/31/2004 5:12:41 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
I would have cut the blue wire too.  Always cut the blue...




No no no no!  I saw it in a movie once, you should cut the yellow wire, especially if you're 20,000 quazillion feet under water and the bomb is a nuke.

I hope this helps.



ETA the laughing devil doo-hickey.....

12/31/2004 5:30:30 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
fuck bob and the horse he...hey! wait a minute!!!

seriously, i think fully 95% of the human race is well below the threshold of 'moron'.



Good thing the other 5% of us found ARFCOM.

The low end of the 95% found DU
12/31/2004 5:44:12 PM EDT
[#20]
My current fave from an account of mine. The girl who said this is in management.

Me: So you guys had to change the locks today?

Her:Yeah.

Me: Can you leave us a key hidden so we can get it tonight?

Her: Sure ,inside or outside?

12/31/2004 6:27:50 PM EDT
[#21]
I live with it every day, from people who drive 10 miles per hour under the speed limit in the left lane of a four lane, to people next to me at the range, & at worst of all at work. It is amazing that a college educated 45 year old man can not turn on a computer that makes $40k a year. Or a woman who was hired as branch manager with zero experience in the business is allowed to stay with a company 6 years all the while our profit went from 35% cash flow to nothing. After they decide to close the branch office she manages, they actualy then offer her a commisioned sales position and now has stock in the company, and makes $60k a year. Absolutely amazing, as if it had been a male he would have been gone 4 years ago. I also have to deal with another woman  who was given a promotion and moved to an office job that is pretty important but yet this person is so incompetent  that someone else basically does her job for her, as they sit next to each other and their 2 computers are networked.  All the while these people contiue to breed, and collect a paycheck.
My favorite moron of all time was the einstein at the range who had just bought a brand new scope, mounted it on the bolt gun the night before and somehow managed to miss an 8 point buck this morning. When asked what range the gun was sighted for his response was "what do you mean sight it in?
I never heard of that"

12/31/2004 6:37:26 PM EDT
[#22]
Reminds me of something someone said here: I've become increasingly convinced that 10% of people are evil, 5% are good, and the other 85% are functional morons.


Quoted:

Quoted:
I would have cut the blue wire too.  Always cut the blue...




No no no no!  I saw it in a movie once, you should cut the yellow wire, especially if you're 20,000 quazillion feet under water and the bomb is a nuke.

I hope this helps.



No no no, if it's a nuke, just chuck a grenade in it and run. You did bring grenades, right? Please tell me you brought at least one grenade to the secret undersea lair...
12/31/2004 6:46:06 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
thinking is not being taught nowdays.





Fixed it for ya.

Charlie
12/31/2004 8:38:08 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
I live with it every day, from people who drive 10 miles per hour under the speed limit in the left lane of a four lane, to people next to me at the range, & at worst of all at work. It is amazing that a college educated 45 year old man can not turn on a computer that makes $40k a year. Or a woman who was hired as branch manager with zero experience in the business is allowed to stay with a company 6 years all the while our profit went from 35% cash flow to nothing. After they decide to close the branch office she manages, they actualy then offer her a commisioned sales position and now has stock in the company, and makes $60k a year. Absolutely amazing, as if it had been a male he would have been gone 4 years ago. I also have to deal with another woman  who was given a promotion and moved to an office job that is pretty important but yet this person is so incompetent  that someone else basically does her job for her, as they sit next to each other and their 2 computers are networked.  All the while these people contiue to breed, and collect a paycheck.
My favorite moron of all time was the einstein at the range who had just bought a brand new scope, mounted it on the bolt gun the night before and somehow managed to miss an 8 point buck this morning. When asked what range the gun was sighted for his response was "what do you mean sight it in?
I never heard of that"




A computer gets paid?