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11/26/2004 9:05:17 AM EDT
Besides cost and aesthetics, what's the pros and cons of the FAL vs the M14.
11/26/2004 9:07:50 AM EDT
[#1]
I think the M14 sites are better and its more accurate, but the FAL is really reliable and would make a good beat around gun.

both are good.
11/26/2004 9:10:53 AM EDT
[#2]
I think they are close, you need to try both and see which one suites you best. I prefer the FAL.
11/26/2004 9:11:42 AM EDT
[#3]
FAL parts/ mags are eaiser to get and sometimes cheaper

h/w i like the m1a a LOT better, its just too damn much right now.......
11/26/2004 9:11:56 AM EDT
[#4]
I own a FAL and had an M-14 for four years in the Army.
The M-14 is a great range gun and has beautiful lines.  It is a classic american firearm.
I really feel the FAL is a better combat arm.
11/26/2004 9:12:03 AM EDT
[#5]
FALs are cheaper, more reliable, more available, and have an easily adjustable gas system. Better sights than what came on them originally are available, and at least my STG58 is as accurate as anybody but a serious sniper would ever need.

M14's are American designed, most are slightly more accurate, and are expensive.

FAL for me thanks.
11/26/2004 9:14:15 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Besides cost and aesthetics, what's the pros and cons of the FAL vs the M14.



The FAL is an awsome weapon.  I especially like the DSA's.  Nothing wrong with the M14, but I just tend to like the FAL a bit better.  It's just more ergonomically friendly.
11/26/2004 9:14:17 AM EDT
[#7]
Where's thee pic. of the guy with his hand on his head and with the quote" Not this shit again".

Either one one will treat you right and provide years of yeoman's service I'ved used both and own two FAL's( 'cause their less expensive) and they are about even. (Like the spitfire and the Messerschmitt Me109) Also there is/was a reason that close to 90 countries used the Fal, that it
is the best compromise for a battle rifle. The M-14(M1A) is more accurate, mostly to better sites, but the ergomonic's are not as good. Any way can't go wrong either way and YMMV.
11/26/2004 9:17:10 AM EDT
[#8]
If the FAL is so great then why is the M1a being brought back outta mothballs for the men in the sandbox?

11/26/2004 9:21:42 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
If the FAL is so great then why is the M1a being brought back outta mothballs for the men in the sandbox?





umm, maybe because we never issued FAL's and therefore dont have them or parts for them in inventory
11/26/2004 9:22:28 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
If the FAL is so great then why is the M1a being brought back outta mothballs for the men in the sandbox?




Because we already have them. Cheaper to use what you have than to go out and buy new stuff.
11/26/2004 9:23:20 AM EDT
[#11]
I like the ergonomics of the M-14 better than the FAL
I like the forward assist with the bolt handle.  I like the safety better.  Much better trigger.  I just trust the FAL more.
11/26/2004 9:26:27 AM EDT
[#12]
Pick a target at 600yds, adjust for windage and elevation. See which rifle actually hits it. M14.
11/26/2004 9:28:54 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Pick a target at 600yds, adjust for windage and elevation. See which rifle actually hits it. M14.


Find a target in combat at 600 yards.
11/26/2004 9:35:14 AM EDT
[#14]
the difference is $5 (20 round magazine), or $49.95 (20 round magazine)
11/26/2004 9:38:13 AM EDT
[#15]
M14's work in the sand, FAL's do not.  The Israeli's hated theirs.
11/26/2004 9:54:42 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
M14's work in the sand, FAL's do not.  The Israeli's hated theirs.



pre-sand cut design.  Worked just fine everywhere else around the world surprisingly enough though huh?  Especially when over 90 countries adopted it and has seen more combat time than anything short of the AR series and Ak series in modern warfare.  You must have been watching the history channel to make that statement.

Fal for me, more reliable and fits better.  M14 is more aesthetically pleasing and is inherently more accurate.  Absolutely nothing wrong with either.

Bench/target shooting long distance = M14/M1A

Combat = FAL
11/26/2004 9:57:11 AM EDT
[#17]
I like the FAL...cause it is the only one of the two I have.
11/26/2004 9:59:11 AM EDT
[#18]
I have had both. I like both. But for a comabt arm I would take the FAL.
11/26/2004 10:04:30 AM EDT
[#19]
Have owned both, prefer the FAL. However interested in the new stock platform provided by Fulton, looks like it could address some of the limitations of the stock design.

11/26/2004 10:07:10 AM EDT
[#20]
FAL for me please.
11/26/2004 10:15:22 AM EDT
[#21]
Buy both.....and buy very maney of each
11/26/2004 1:05:52 PM EDT
[#22]
My FAL does my talkin'!
11/26/2004 1:08:44 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Besides cost and aesthetics, what's the pros and cons of the FAL vs the M14.



The FAL was the better rifle… IIRC it won out in US Army selection tests in the 50's, so they fixed the tests so the M14 'won'.

ANdy
11/26/2004 1:14:46 PM EDT
[#24]
FALs are nice I want at least three.

M1As make people drool.

I have one I want two or three more.
11/26/2004 1:22:30 PM EDT
[#25]
I like the FAL.  Reliable. Cheaper.  They are beautifully designed.  The history behind them is interesting in the extreme.  Comfortable to shoot.  Mags are cheap.  I just ordered 10 of em at 2.95 each.  Have not recieved them yet so don't know if they will be a good buy or not.

They are not tack drivers.  The sights could definitely be improved. They can be built in a home shop.

Warning:  Like the AR, they are addictive.

The only reason I do not have a M1A is a fiscal one.  Maybe in the future.  
I'd still vote for the  FAL though. Much fun.
11/26/2004 1:29:02 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Buy both.....and buy very many of each




That I can agree with!!!
11/26/2004 1:29:17 PM EDT
[#27]
The best advice is, as others have posted, to try them out and see which one you like better.  The M1A is better in some ways, the FAL supposedly (only saying that because that knowledge is second-hand) in others.  There probably are more FAL parts available, as best exemplified by magazine prices.  The M1A has better sights.  I'll say this, I personally do not like the FAL, whether it be aesthetics or handling (for certain) or a few other things.  However, that's me and does not mean it is a bad rifle.  Many say it can take a beating, and 90+ armies have proven that.  The M1A has it's design problems - look it's an updated Garand.  WHile the Garand is a classic, it is 1930's techniology.  There are a few flaws, but the sights are great.  So, there's no definitive answer.

For myself, I'll say this:  As I mentioned, I don't like the feel of the FAL, but that doesn't answer whether it is a "good" rifle; I owned an M1A, but it was a Fulton build-up, so it was the best M1A one can get; I sold it and now own an AR10.  So, go check them out and buy what you like best.  I understand SA has its QA problems, so you might just want to look into one of the better smiths.  I can wholeheartedly recommend Fulton; they're expensive but, you know...
11/26/2004 2:09:27 PM EDT
[#28]
fal...
11/26/2004 2:50:09 PM EDT
[#29]
I like the FAL, but then Liked the M14 better.
11/26/2004 2:59:17 PM EDT
[#30]
I have both.  I like them both but for different reasons.  You should buy one of each.  If you buy either one of them you should be happy with it.  I would give the M1A a 50.2%-49.8% edge simply because it has better sights and is American designed.  Either one will send a .308 downrange and put a world of hurt on anybody it hits.  Both of them are robust and designed as a MBR.
11/26/2004 3:04:47 PM EDT
[#31]
If the FAL is so great then why is the M1a being brought back outta mothballs for the men in the sandbox?

did you forget the brits bring up the fal in desert storm when their l85's failed in the sand????

basically, the m14 is seeing service to address the shortcomings of the m16 much in the same fashion that the russian have issued the dragunov svd at squad level for decades to cover for the ak74.


a fal for me, thank you.

the m14 is a darn fine rifle, but the fal feels better on my shoulder.
11/26/2004 3:09:09 PM EDT
[#32]
I carried an M14 many years ago.  It's a fine rifle, and I'd certainly like a couple...

However, I think that the FAL is a better battle rifle.  And, like others have mentioned, parts and magazines for the FAL are dirt cheap right now.

Get a couple of FALs...

11/26/2004 3:25:40 PM EDT
[#33]
Right now I have an FAL and an L1A1. I have fired the M1A and I have found it to be accurate enough for the intented purpose. I do have a scope on my FAL and I find this to be just as accurate as the M1A with a scope. I have also put together 3 kits for the FAL and I found this to be relatively easy. So take it for what it's worth and form your own opinions. Or just do it in traditional ARFCOM style  ..........

..............GET BOTH!!!!!

AKASL
LIVE FREE OR DIE
NEW HAMPSHIRE
11/26/2004 3:27:27 PM EDT
[#34]
FAL, but I would love an M1A as well.
11/26/2004 3:49:44 PM EDT
[#35]
I have L1A1s (duh). The sights are very very coarse. Otherwise, the L1A1/FAL is a near-perfect weapon. I secretly lust after an M1A, though.
11/26/2004 5:21:26 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Pick a target at 600yds, adjust for windage and elevation. See which rifle actually hits it. M14.


Find a target in combat at 600 yards.



Not hard to do in open terrain.
11/26/2004 5:23:58 PM EDT
[#37]
I think a DSA SA58 with their Picatinny rail dust cover and a 4X ACOG would be teh shit.
11/26/2004 5:29:28 PM EDT
[#38]
Both are superb.

I have 8 FAL's and 4 M14's and would have a hard time choosing one over the other...!
11/26/2004 5:41:22 PM EDT
[#39]
I've never owned a FAL,  I will soon however after a trade.   I have owned an el cheapo M14 made by poly tech.   When it worked it was a blast to shoot, suprisingly accurate for a chinese rifle.  After the walnut stock it was a beautiful thing.  The FAL looks more business like, I've shot a friends Imbel and an Izzy and they shot very well.   If M1A mags werent ridiculously expensive I'd probably save up and buy one.   Being that metric Fal mags are $3 each I suppose I'll just have to stock up on those.  

Personally if money were NOT a factor I'd have the M1A.  I think the FAL offers alot more bang for the buck.   Mine will get optics anyhow so the effectiveness of the irons is a moot point.
11/26/2004 5:47:32 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
Both are superb.

I have 8 FAL's and 4 M14's and would have a hard time choosing one over the other...!







My address is.....




11/26/2004 5:52:02 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
Both are superb.

I have 8 FAL's and 4 M14's and would have a hard time choosing one over the other...!



Well thats obvious
11/26/2004 5:53:56 PM EDT
[#42]
Wait isnt that ban that was preventing manufacture of new magazines and keeping m14 mag prices ridiculously high gone now...

11/26/2004 5:56:13 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
M14's work in the sand, FAL's do not.  The Israeli's hated theirs.



+1

israilies were super pissed at the FAL; designed the galil--wish i had both
11/26/2004 6:09:36 PM EDT
[#44]
my dad just got a fal. great rifle, but still like the M1A. i think the fal is more reliable. but i like both

but id have to go with +1 for the fal.


bbr
11/26/2004 6:20:28 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:

Quoted:
M14's work in the sand, FAL's do not.  The Israeli's hated theirs.



+1

israilies were super pissed at the FAL; designed the galil--wish i had both



Now they use the M21 and M16's 'cuz we sell them cheap.
11/26/2004 6:32:06 PM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
Have owned both, prefer the FAL. However interested in the new stock platform provided by Fulton, looks like it could address some of the limitations of the stock design.

www.fulton-armory.com/Sage-Pre-Ban-Extended-500_50.jpg



Is that who built that?  I saw one at the recent gun show locally and I thought the vendor built it himself.

I didn't care for it. Looked like an assembly of junked parts. At first I thought it was a joke.

Of course if FA built it, then I have no doubt it must work!  Just looks funny.
11/26/2004 6:41:18 PM EDT
[#47]
In the great ARFCOM tradition. I've got both.
11/26/2004 7:34:13 PM EDT
[#48]
I've got an M1A and love it! Definitely my favorite rifle. Great sights, good ergonomics, made in the USA, plus there's that 7.62 punch. The mags aren't that expensive. If you're paying $50 for an M14 mag, you're getting seriously ripped off. I've found NIB USGI mags for $35/ea. More expensive than FAL mags, no doubt, but how many mags do you really need?

I've never shot a FAL, but one of these days I'll pick up a DSA. The next rifle on my list.
11/26/2004 7:42:17 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:
M14's work in the sand, FAL's do not.  The Israeli's hated theirs.



+1

israilies were super pissed at the FAL; designed the galil--wish i had both





The Israelis adoped the FAL in 1955. They hated it so much it was still in use till the mid 1970's...
11/26/2004 8:34:06 PM EDT
[#50]


  I've shot both and prefer the M14 over the FAL.


  Although I don't own one. I prefer my Armalite AR10.
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