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11/15/2004 10:14:53 PM EDT
We all hear about the bias of National Public Radio (NPR) but I want to tell you about my personal experience with listening to them this past weekend.

I spent 13 hours in the car listening to different radio stations discussing the Scott Peterson verdict.

The majority of them (ABC, CBS, CNN) had something along the lines of “Scott Peterson was convicted of the murder of Lacy Peterson and her unborn son, Conner”

But what I found most disturbing was the NPR tagline of:  “Scott Peterson was convicted of the murder of Lacy Peterson and her FETUS” <totally unnamed in the news story>

I don’t know about you but I find this so damn offensive.

We allow the abortuariariums to “draw and quarter” (cut off the head, arms and legs and suck the dissected parts out with a vacuum cleaner) but in most states if you kill a pregnant woman you are charged with 2 counts of murder.

I just don’t get it.  What a double standard!
11/15/2004 10:16:02 PM EDT
[#1]
exactly. theres a way for them, and a way for everyone else.
11/15/2004 10:17:14 PM EDT
[#2]
Its NPR, I know someone who listened to it in the car and at home on weekends, plus watched CSPAN all weekend.

I cant handel the NPR myself.
11/16/2004 3:39:27 AM EDT
[#3]
NPR should change their name to NSR...National Socialist Radio.  They're one handshake away from communism.  
11/16/2004 3:45:59 AM EDT
[#4]
If we didn't have anyone to challenge our beliefs, many would become apathetic.

How many times have you researched a topic due to a lefty bitching about it?  PLENTY for me.  I'd have about a third of the knowledge I currently possess if I didn't have anyone to refute.

NPR is a good thing.  They are bias, but that actually helps our cause.  It results in our educating the rest.
11/16/2004 3:49:17 AM EDT
[#5]

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If we didn't have anyone to challenge our beliefs, many would become apathetic.

How many times have you researched a topic due to a lefty bitching about it?  PLENTY for me.  I'd have about a third of the knowledge I currently possess if I didn't have anyone to refute.

NPR is a good thing.  They are bias, but that actually helps our cause.  It results in our educating the rest.

Conversely, it is so easy to refute lefties because they do NOT do their research.  How many times have you seen a lefty advocating new social programs that are impossible to execute on some level, and anybody who doesn't agree with them needs a civics lesson?
Like shooting fish in a barrel...
11/16/2004 3:49:44 AM EDT
[#6]

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If we didn't have anyone to challenge our beliefs, many would become apathetic.

How many times have you researched a topic due to a lefty bitching about it?  PLENTY for me.  I'd have about a third of the knowledge I currently possess if I didn't have anyone to refute.

NPR is a good thing.  They are bias, but that actually helps our cause.  It results in our educating the rest.



What he said.
11/16/2004 3:54:05 AM EDT
[#7]

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If we didn't have anyone to challenge our beliefs, many would become apathetic.

How many times have you researched a topic due to a lefty bitching about it?  PLENTY for me.  I'd have about a third of the knowledge I currently possess if I didn't have anyone to refute.

NPR is a good thing.  They are bias, but that actually helps our cause.  It results in our educating the rest.



Conversely, it is so easy to refute lefties because they do NOT do their research.  How many times have you seen a lefty advocating new social programs that are impossible to execute on some level, and anybody who doesn't agree with them needs a civics lesson?
Like shooting fish in a barrel...



Ahh...but you and I are not the majority.  Many people do not find it so easy to debate the left.  Just look at page one or two of this forum - something about Michael Moore's movie?



11/16/2004 4:01:26 AM EDT
[#8]

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If we didn't have anyone to challenge our beliefs, many would become apathetic.

How many times have you researched a topic due to a lefty bitching about it?  PLENTY for me.  I'd have about a third of the knowledge I currently possess if I didn't have anyone to refute.

NPR is a good thing.  They are bias, but that actually helps our cause.  It results in our educating the rest.



Conversely, it is so easy to refute lefties because they do NOT do their research.  How many times have you seen a lefty advocating new social programs that are impossible to execute on some level, and anybody who doesn't agree with them needs a civics lesson?
Like shooting fish in a barrel...



Ahh...but you and I are not the majority.  Many people do not find it so easy to debate the left.  Just look at page one or two of this forum - something about Michael Moore's movie?

Link?
Sometimes it isn't easy to debate the left, when they come up with something new.  When they find another flag to fly against the Republicans, it takes a bit to us to catch up and learn the facts we need to.  I can debate a great many subjects against a Democrat, but if one of them pops up with a new subject, they'll catch me short.  I then have to research and get up to speed on it.
It simply is a matter of who is willing to do more research and face more facts.  We are.  They aren't.
11/16/2004 4:05:13 AM EDT
[#9]

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Ahh...but you and I are not the majority.  Many people do not find it so easy to debate the left.  Just look at page one or two of this forum - something about Michael Moore's movie?

Link?
Sometimes it isn't easy to debate the left, when they come up with something new.  When they find another flag to fly against the Republicans, it takes a bit to us to catch up and learn the facts we need to.  I can debate a great many subjects against a Democrat, but if one of them pops up with a new subject, they'll catch me short.  I then have to research and get up to speed on it.
It simply is a matter of who is willing to do more research and face more facts.  We are.  They aren't.



JustaGirl's post was asking about the validity of Moore's anti-Bush movie.

And reading the rest of your post, I would say you tend to agree that NPR is a good thing (according to my reasoning).
11/16/2004 4:08:52 AM EDT
[#10]
The ONLY good thing on NPR,  the "Tappet Brothers".  
11/16/2004 4:16:52 AM EDT
[#11]

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Ahh...but you and I are not the majority.  Many people do not find it so easy to debate the left.  Just look at page one or two of this forum - something about Michael Moore's movie?

Link?
Sometimes it isn't easy to debate the left, when they come up with something new.  When they find another flag to fly against the Republicans, it takes a bit to us to catch up and learn the facts we need to.  I can debate a great many subjects against a Democrat, but if one of them pops up with a new subject, they'll catch me short.  I then have to research and get up to speed on it.
It simply is a matter of who is willing to do more research and face more facts.  We are.  They aren't.



JustaGirl's post was asking about the validity of Moore's anti-Bush movie.

And reading the rest of your post, I would say you tend to agree that NPR is a good thing (according to my reasoning).

I regard NPR, DU and SmirkingChimp.com the same: great sources of intelligence on the Democratic mindset, and figuring out the truth before their opinion becomes widely known or makes it into a movie.
Unfortunately, there is only so much of the above I can stand before I tire of their crap, and have a great desire to listen to country music and read gun manuals while drinking beer, just to purify myself of the stupidity
11/16/2004 4:17:52 AM EDT
[#12]
Yup!
11/16/2004 4:22:35 AM EDT
[#13]

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Ahh...but you and I are not the majority.  Many people do not find it so easy to debate the left.  Just look at page one or two of this forum - something about Michael Moore's movie?

Link?
Sometimes it isn't easy to debate the left, when they come up with something new.  When they find another flag to fly against the Republicans, it takes a bit to us to catch up and learn the facts we need to.  I can debate a great many subjects against a Democrat, but if one of them pops up with a new subject, they'll catch me short.  I then have to research and get up to speed on it.
It simply is a matter of who is willing to do more research and face more facts.  We are.  They aren't.



JustaGirl's post was asking about the validity of Moore's anti-Bush movie.

And reading the rest of your post, I would say you tend to agree that NPR is a good thing (according to my reasoning).

I regard NPR, DU and SmirkingChimp.com the same: great sources of intelligence on the Democratic mindset, and figuring out the truth before their opinion becomes widely known or makes it into a movie.
Unfortunately, there is only so much of the above I can stand before I tire of their crap, and have a great desire to listen to country music and read gun manuals while drinking beer, just to purify myself of the stupidity



Great minds think alike.  

How 'bout that Tammy Wynette?  
11/16/2004 4:27:02 AM EDT
[#14]
Was this on the NPR news segments, which are at the top of the hour, or on one of the "shows" The news segments are usually pretty good, some of the shows are horrible in their lefty bias.  The news is lefty like almost all news is (even my little hometown paper in a Republican county has a sort of liberal lean, I think it's the nature of the kind of people tha go into reporting for the most part and newspapers hiring practices over the past 20 years).

I've never even heard a mention of the Peterson trial on NPR (gotta give them credit for that), but I certainly did not spend all weekend listening to it (thank God).

NPR is taped mostly in the northeast and California where there's little to no support (including among Republicans) for out right bans on abortion, so I suppose you could argue that that might affect their terminology, particularly if you use phrases like "abortuariariums."

Did anyone complain to them? I chewed them out a few times, one of the shows actually e-mailed me back and read my e-mail on the air (they let a gun grabber cop in Ohio speak "anonymously" about his opposition to CCW, I thought they were giving the turd a "pass" that they wouldn't've given to someone they didn't like, like a Klan member or neo nazi) but another time NPR news (they claimed that Colin Ferguson used an "assault weapon"-he used a Ruger pistol) they blew me off.
11/16/2004 4:46:57 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
We all hear about the bias of National Public Radio (NPR) but I want to tell you about my personal experience with listening to them this past weekend.

I spent 13 hours in the car listening to different radio stations discussing the Scott Peterson verdict.

The majority of them (ABC, CBS, CNN) had something along the lines of “Scott Peterson was convicted of the murder of Lacy Peterson and her unborn son, Conner”

But what I found most disturbing was the NPR tagline of:  “Scott Peterson was convicted of the murder of Lacy Peterson and her FETUS” <totally unnamed in the news story>

I don’t know about you but I find this so damn offensive.

We allow the abortuariariums to “draw and quarter” (cut off the head, arms and legs and suck the dissected parts out with a vacuum cleaner) but in most states if you kill a pregnant woman you are charged with 2 counts of murder.

I just don’t get it.  What a double standard!




You sound just liike the pants-wetting liberals.  "I was offended."  Oh boohoo--change the station, then!

Other people's abortions are none, repeat none of your business.  I come down very hard on control freaks of both stripes.  I hate leftist control freaks becuase they are all little Stalin wannabes.  I hate rightwing control freaks beause they are all little Hitler wannabes.

11/16/2004 4:51:26 AM EDT
[#16]

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The ONLY good thing on NPR,  the "Tappet Brothers".  



Both are flaming liberals, esp. the one with the beard. He went into some tirade on one show about G HW Bush and oil companies around 1991, so vehemently that even the libs who run WBUR had to tell him to stifle, because they were getting so many complaints from listeners.

If you don't like NPR, complain LOUDLY and often to them. They are scared to death of anybody who doesn't think the way they do.

95th (former paying member of WGBH/WBUR/NPR) Foot
11/16/2004 4:52:22 AM EDT
[#17]
The ONLY good thing on NPR, the "Tappet Brothers".

AND...

"a prairie home companion"

"mountain stage"

"all things considered"

"fresh air"

"wait wait...don't tell me"

"morning edition"

"science friday"

"the thistle and the shamrock"

ALL the classical music.

11/16/2004 4:53:47 AM EDT
[#18]

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The ONLY good thing on NPR,  the "Tappet Brothers".  



And Thistle and Shamrock.
11/16/2004 4:55:03 AM EDT
[#19]

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You sound just liike the pants-wetting liberals.  "I was offended."  Oh boohoo--change the station, then!

Other people's abortions are none, repeat none of your business.  I come down very hard on control freaks of both stripes.  I hate leftist control freaks becuase they are all little Stalin wannabes.  I hate rightwing control freaks beause they are all little Hitler wannabes.




"Hitler wannabes?"  WTF kind of mindset do you possess?

11/16/2004 5:01:28 AM EDT
[#20]

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The ONLY good thing on NPR, the "Tappet Brothers".

AND...

"a prairie home companion"



....run by garrison keillor, admitted avowed antigun liberal


"mountain stage"


....run by Larry Groce, tree-hugger


"all things considered"


You mean "all things we feel good for the left considered"...won't get any bias there, will we...


"fresh air"


...run by antigun leftwing lesbian


"wait wait...don't tell me"


...everytime gunowners are mentioned on that show it's in the form of a putdown in conjunction with crime or whackos...


"morning edition"


MY BS detector is on full alert whenever I have them on. Can Linda Wertheimer sound any more stuck up and disdainful than she already is? She always sounds like she's talking down her nose at everybody and everything....


"science friday"


Topic a couple of weeks ago :"what you can do to relieve your depression from losing the election "


"the thistle and the shamrock"


Now that is a pretty good show, I must admit.


ALL the classical music.


Not all of it. WGBH's atonal classical music shows after a while start to sound like "kitten on the keys". Karlheinz Stockhausen, anyone?.....

11/16/2004 5:07:01 AM EDT
[#21]

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You sound just liike the pants-wetting liberals.  "I was offended."  Oh boohoo--change the station, then!

Other people's abortions are none, repeat none of your business.  I come down very hard on control freaks of both stripes.  I hate leftist control freaks becuase they are all little Stalin wannabes.  I hate rightwing control freaks beause they are all little Hitler wannabes.




"Hitler wannabes?"  WTF kind of mindset do you possess?


He possesses a hard line libertarian mindset.
11/16/2004 5:18:07 AM EDT
[#22]
Terri Gross on "Fresh Air isn't a lesbian, she just has a bad haircut.

edit-actually she really isn't a lesbian, she's married to some professor I think, I've heard her talk about it. She gets on my nerves though.

I heard that Science Friday segment about the election depression, Ira Flatow was just about laughing during that one. They did fall for that spoof Canadian website about marrying a canadian to move out of the country
11/16/2004 5:24:32 AM EDT
[#23]
needless to say, i could care less that terry gross is a lesbian, that garrison is a lib, that ira glass is queer or that  larry is an environmentalist.

i listen to "all things considered" for the interesting guests...including the right wingers that have bitch slapped terry and walked off her show in mid-interview.

i listen to "a prairie home companion" for the wonderful stories and tales that keilor tells. no one does it better.

i listen to "this american life" because ira has some wild stories to present.

i listen to "mountain stage" for the good music and artists...not because of the politics behing the producer.

"all things considered" is more balanced than any show i can think of. of course, you may call rush, hannity and art bell, "balanced".

"wait wait...don't tell me "puts down" far more than gunowners. the shows mocks everyone...left wing art history majors included.

"morning edition" provides more in-depth news, with more details, than any other news program i know of. i notice no condescending airs from anyone on the staff that is heard on my local npr affiliate stations.

"science friday's" topic about the election blues was hysterical. ira was laughing as the shrink basically told people to "get over it" or "seek professional help" if their symptoms persisted. i was laughing all the way home from cleveland in the company car as that segment played.

of course, i'm the sort that can even get enjoyment out of listening to "the tavis smiley show"! and i like "the diane reim show" also.

"around noon" is cool, too.
11/16/2004 5:29:19 AM EDT
[#24]
Ira Flatow was just about laughing during that one.

some people 'get' npr...and some folks are just too angry to enjoy it for what it is...entertainment on the airwaves.

aimless, terry gross is definitely a lez...trust me on this one!

have you ever heard that guy that works at the brecksville, ohio v.a. hospital?

npr showcased him...and now he's some kind of nationally known cult celeb. i can't recall his name, but the guy is twisted as all get out! definitely not your average joe.
11/16/2004 5:33:39 AM EDT
[#25]
Terri Gross has a new book out and I heard at least two interviews with her about this, in both she went on at lenght about how she wasn't a lesbian-if she was a lesbian I can't picture her denying it so vehemtly, she's certainly "gay friendly." She told a story about going to a dinner party with her husband and mother in law and someone who did not know them telling her mother in law how great it was that a "lesbian like Terri Gross" was on the radio. I guess she gets asked to speak at homosexual events all the time until they find out she's straight (or claims to be).

Maybe you have pics or something? That's some lesbo action I wouldn't want to see I don't know who the guy at that hospital in Ohio is. Our NPR station doesn't have that? We don't have that thistle show or mountain stage either. There's also no music on our NPR station.

11/16/2004 5:37:07 AM EDT
[#26]

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have you ever heard that guy that works at the brecksville, ohio v.a. hospital?

npr showcased him...and now he's some kind of nationally known cult celeb. i can't recall his name, but the guy is twisted as all get out! definitely not your average joe.



Details?

11/16/2004 5:44:01 AM EDT
[#27]

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Terri Gross has a new book out and I heard at least two interviews with her about this, in both she went on at lenght about how she wasn't a lesbian-if she was a lesbian I can't picture her denying it so vehemtly, she's certainly "gay friendly." She told a story about going to a dinner party with her husband and mother in law and someone who did not know them telling her mother in law how great it was that a "lesbian like Terri Gross" was on the radio. I guess she gets asked to speak at homosexual events all the time until they find out she's straight (or claims to be).



A classic case of "Methinks the lady doth protest too much..."


Maybe you have pics or something? That's some lesbo action I wouldn't want to see


Be careful what you wish for- you just might actually get it.....





Lesbian...naw...no way.....




11/16/2004 5:58:58 AM EDT
[#28]
I thought she was a lesbian too, apparently she's not, unless you know something I don't know. A bad haircut does not a lesbian make.

Not that I give a shit, I wish the local station would dump her show, she's annoying. she's obnoxious to people she doesn't like but she's a horrible kiss ass to people she likes.

Edit and apparently from those pictures she only owns one suit.
11/16/2004 6:04:57 AM EDT
[#29]

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needless to say, i could care less that terry gross is a lesbian, that garrison is a lib, that ira glass is queer or that  larry is an environmentalist.

i listen to "all things considered" for the interesting guests...including the right wingers that have bitch slapped terry and walked off her show in mid-interview.

i listen to "a prairie home companion" for the wonderful stories and tales that keilor tells. no one does it better.

i listen to "this american life" because ira has some wild stories to present.

i listen to "mountain stage" for the good music and artists...not because of the politics behing the producer.

"all things considered" is more balanced than any show i can think of. of course, you may call rush, hannity and art bell, "balanced".

"wait wait...don't tell me "puts down" far more than gunowners. the shows mocks everyone...left wing art history majors included.

"morning edition" provides more in-depth news, with more details, than any other news program i know of. i notice no condescending airs from anyone on the staff that is heard on my local npr affiliate stations.

"science friday's" topic about the election blues was hysterical. ira was laughing as the shrink basically told people to "get over it" or "seek professional help" if their symptoms persisted. i was laughing all the way home from cleveland in the company car as that segment played.

of course, i'm the sort that can even get enjoyment out of listening to "the tavis smiley show"! and i like "the diane reim show" also.

"around noon" is cool, too.



Campy, you and I must share the same streak. I am a die hard conservative but I have alwasy enjoyed listening to just about anything NPR puts on - it's good for news in general (like what Sin_Bin said- it's caused me to do more research than I would have otherwise) and also to hear how the "other side" thinks.

In fact I'm listening to KCRW on Webradio at work as I type this.
11/16/2004 6:13:55 AM EDT
[#30]
I have to dmit, that I am addicted to NPR's programs.  I listen Prairie Home, Tappet Bros.,  This American Life, The Next Big Thing, Harry Shearer's show, pretty much all of it.  And yes, I listen to the news, I find it provides me fodder and "balance", so to speak.
11/16/2004 6:16:53 AM EDT
[#31]
aimless...i could be wrong, but THAT'S A MAN, BABY!!!!!

heheh!

our npr stations are pretty poor...limited funding and all that. they play about 70% of their air time with classical music

macman, if i weeded out my music collection to only listen to "conservative" rockers...well, let's just say the 3 or 4 artists that remained would soon bore me to teats!

yeah, i agree...npr is staffed by libs, but they do a pretty good job of keeping this machinegun-totin' conservative entertained.

"mountain stage" puts on some damn fine shows...i like that kind of bluegrass, folk and country music better than the commercial stuff.

sin bin, i'll see if i can jog my memory banks. the dude was a janitor at the v.a. hospital or some such shit and he went on to make some kind of cult movie that got good reviews at caan or sundown or some such shit.

i ain't much into the star scene or who's hot (i don't even watch tv), but i can say that this character is so far out there that he's interesting.

11/16/2004 6:19:38 AM EDT
[#32]
NPR, the official radio station of the DemocraticUnderground.
11/16/2004 6:21:03 AM EDT
[#33]

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I have to dmit, that I am addicted to NPR's programs.  I listen Prairie Home, Tappet Bros.,  This American Life, The Next Big Thing, Harry Shearer's show, pretty much all of it.  And yes, I listen to the news, I find it provides me fodder and "balance", so to speak.



I listen to it all, too, and even call in to the talk shows occasionally (I rarely get through- I had one woman screener tell me here in Boston, "I'm sorry, we're not taking any pro-gun calls today"...), but listening to them, is like listening for the bum note that comes out of a saxophone occasionally. (What did Duke Ellington say? "It's an ill woodwind that blows no good"? )

My Left Wing Bias Detector beeps constantly whenever I listen to NPR. Whenever they present a point of view, my thought is always, "Why are they presenting this? What's their angle?"
11/16/2004 6:31:40 AM EDT
[#34]

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I have to dmit, that I am addicted to NPR's programs.  I listen Prairie Home, Tappet Bros.,  This American Life, The Next Big Thing, Harry Shearer's show, pretty much all of it.  And yes, I listen to the news, I find it provides me fodder and "balance", so to speak.



I listen to it all, too, and even call in to the talk shows occasionally (I rarely get through- I had one woman screener tell me here in Boston, "I'm sorry, we're not taking any pro-gun calls today"...), but listening to them, is like listening for the bum note that comes out of a saxophone occasionally. (What did Duke Ellington say? "It's an ill woodwind that blows no good"? )

My Left Wing Bias Detector beeps constantly whenever I liten to NPR. Whenever they present a point of view, my thought is always, "Why are they presenting this? What's their angle?"



Did you happen to catch the one progun guy they had on recently? (probably a couple of months ago now) He was a "gun nut" who bought guns for protection (complete with periodic paranoid delusions) but would give them up on a moment's notice if he had to. Liberals roll over at the drop of a hat.

Sure they have a slant on every-freakin-thing. That's part of the fun of listening to them. I've laughed out loud at the bias- and the softball questions they lobbed over the plate at Kerry during the run up to the election. You name it. I've listened to NPR for probably 14 years now. I won't support socialist radio, but I like listening to them.
11/16/2004 6:41:11 AM EDT
[#35]
I listen to WVXU in Cincinnati every day for a couple of hours.

It's a mixed bag. Some stuff is SUPER SOCIALIST LIBERAL. Other stuff is pretty cool... they had a great interview of the First Lady Laura Bush several weeks before the election. They did her very well.
11/16/2004 6:49:07 AM EDT
[#36]
I won't support socialist radio, but I like listening to them.

same here, brother.

10 years ago, they were pretty strange...ok...they were REALLY out there. now? no worse than stone phillips, dan blather, peter jennings, ted 'the mouth of the south' or any of them.

as a matter of fact, the deeper they dig into most subjects, the more conservative they sound.