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Posted: 10/24/2004 8:29:30 PM EDT

[#1]

Kerry made up a story about meeting with the Security Council.
He used this lie as Justification for his one time support for the War in Iraq.

Think about it.
His Justification for his vote...was based on a lie.
A lie that was debunked by the Foreign Leaders whom he claims love him so.

And if this one doesn't stick, the next one might.

Either way, It'll keep me entertained for the next 18 hours.

Posted: 10/24/2004 8:29:48 PM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
Neither Cin,... they will be pushing the NYT's story and figure if they ignore the story about them it will go away.

Yep. That story will be in the highest rotation.

It's got legs up the wazoo.

Posted: 10/24/2004 8:31:16 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Kerry lied about a meeting - big deal.

"Bush lied, men died"

Next?

Quoted:
The best October Surprise is not the one that goes over the top... but I understand what Cincinatus is saying... If there is a steady increase in weight, eventually a straw will break the camel's back. That would be an ingenious way to do it if done right. If something new comes out every day and the Kerry campaign has to spend each day challenging some new charge, they can never get on message and the last impression that the electorate will have will be Kerry constantly having to defend his honesty.

I like it.

Keep him and his integrity on the defensive day after day, and he will appear, even to the most braindead undecided idiot, to be lying.

I like that part as well.

Posted: 10/24/2004 8:33:13 PM EDT

[#4]

We'll see.
That story NYT story is SOOOO researched, it's old.
Old news in this cycle is SPUN news. Remeber during 2000? Remember the pace of the news? Remember how Newspapers became old news before you read them?
Read the NYTIMES story.
It's hollow.
It's all about "European Inspectors had been warning for months...."

It will be dispatched quickly.
Or not.
Either way, there's going to be alot out there to compete with it.

Posted: 10/24/2004 8:36:42 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Neither Cin,... they will be pushing the NYT's story and figure if they ignore the story about them it will go away.

Yep. That story will be in the highest rotation.

It's got legs up the wazoo.

The sad thing is if anybody critically reads the story they will see that the weapons were last accounted for months before the invasion and when the US troops arrived there were no IAEA seals on the bunkers... Most likely Saddam's people emptied them before the invasion. We know the Fadeian (sp?) was financed and supplied from the state security aparatus. I'm guessing they were long gone before Coalition boots hit Iraqi sand.

Posted: 10/24/2004 8:37:33 PM EDT

[#6]

Liberals boards are now whining...they are saying the Wash Times is a Bush mouthpiece, blah, blah. This has got them spooked. They are already spinning without any denials.

Trouble, if he's lying.

Posted: 10/24/2004 8:38:30 PM EDT

[#7]

The NYT story is OLD.

The story about Kerry lying is not.

CRC

Posted: 10/24/2004 8:40:10 PM EDT

[#8]

I'm thinking it will be like the debate crib sheet, a blip on the RADAR. In many cases, if the big 3 do not carry a story, its just not on the typical Americans mind. The MSM know this IS the week that Kerry must make a breakout (even if they have to use juiced poll numbers), and they will not give this story much play. Sure Fox might bring it up, but how a story spreads is through the Big 3, and they do NOT care about what effects their coverage will do to the bottom line.

Posted: 10/24/2004 8:46:50 PM EDT

[#9]

Think ads people...

"Trust... the most important issue between citizens and their government"

John Kerry, "blah blah blah met with the security council..."

"But a Washington Times expose reveals Security Council members say they have never met John Kerry and never discussed the issue of Iraq"

John Kerry, "my mothers three last words to me were Integrity, Integrity, Integrity"

"Senator, truer words have never been spoken"

At least thats what I'd love to see one of the 527's do...

Posted: 10/24/2004 9:21:09 PM EDT

[#10]

Here's the liberals already in full deny mode..it ain't even tomorrow yet!

www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/24/21359/463

Posted: 10/24/2004 9:23:12 PM EDT

[#11]

Update: I know I haven't sourced the assertion that Kerry met with everyone. When we see the story, with the names of the ambassadors who claim not to have met with Kerry, then it'll be easy enough to refute the allegations.

Posted: 10/24/2004 9:25:13 PM EDT

[#12]

So in order to protect Kerry, he will have to call the ambassadors liars?

Nice.

CRC

Posted: 10/24/2004 9:29:47 PM EDT

[#13]

www.free-press-release.com/news/200408/1092103327.html

Posted: 10/24/2004 10:07:40 PM EDT

[#14]

"I've (Kerry) met with foreign leaders who can't go out and say this publicly," he said. "But, boy, they look at you and say: 'You've got to win this. You've got to beat this guy. We need a new policy.' "

ya want to know who he met with???

"The president [Arafat] is frustrated with Bush's policies," he said. "The president [Arafat] thinks Kerry will be much better for the Palestinian cause and for the establishment of a Palestinian state."

MG

Posted: 10/24/2004 11:05:34 PM EDT

[#15]

Granted, not a knock-out punch.

Still, Kerry has lost his momentum and desperately needs to regain it this week.

All this needs to do is keep him off balance for those few days.

As the cliché goes – this could steal his oxygen!!

Posted: 10/25/2004 4:34:01 AM EDT

[#16]

Good Morning.

Posted: 10/25/2004 4:45:59 AM EDT

[#17]

J F'N KERRY: " I actually decided to meet with the security council, before i decided against it."

Posted: 10/25/2004 4:50:56 AM EDT

[#18]

Kerry's a liar? Huh, learn something new every day.

GunLvr

Posted: 10/25/2004 4:55:28 AM EDT

[#19]

Remember, folks, if Kerry is on the DEFENSIVE, he CANNOT go on offense without blatently ignoring the issue (bad) or looking like he's saying, "SEE! HIM TOO!" (also bad).

Besides, this strikes at the heart of his so-called foregin policy. HE LIED ABOUT MEETING WITH THEM, AND VOTED FOR WAR WITHOUT MEETING WITH THEM.

He's screwed either way...

Posted: 10/25/2004 5:01:54 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
So in order to protect Kerry, he will have to call the ambassadors liars?

Nice.

CRC

Yeah! That, too!

So he's going to be calling the members of the security council liars, and he has already called the head of Iraq a liar!

And THIS is a guy who says he'll work with our ALLIES?

Posted: 10/25/2004 5:13:18 AM EDT

[#21]

Once he stops spinning....

....another story will pop up.

He'll be on his heels for the rest of the week.

Posted: 10/25/2004 5:23:40 AM EDT

[#22]

I got my popcorn, cause it is going to be a feature presentation!

Posted: 10/25/2004 5:24:14 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
So he lies.

Or at least really distorts the truth.

CRC

Agreed.

John Kerry being a liar is not a new revelation.

Posted: 10/25/2004 5:41:35 AM EDT

[#24]

It is in THIS news cycle.

People are paying more attention now.
If a story pushes .03% of the undecideds away from Kerry, it can mean the difference.

Posted: 10/25/2004 7:59:26 AM EDT

[#25]

64.91.230.181/~recycler/videos/seared.WMV

Posted: 10/29/2004 8:04:54 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
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Neither Cin,... they will be pushing the NYT's story and figure if they ignore the story about them it will go away.

Yep. That story will be in the highest rotation.

It's got legs up the wazoo.

GWBush's quiver is empty and so the only "October Surprise" is THIS story which has dominated the news all week and which came from a highly coordinated effort between the United Nations, the Mainstream Media and the Kerry Campaign.

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