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Traitors, eh? I'm sure you have some Purple Hearts and Bronze Stars hanging in your living room, right? And how is it treasonous to VOLUNTEER for combat (you know, in Vietnam-as opposed to Texas and Alabama), serve, and then come back and attempt to stop what you see as morally reprehensible? I can't think of a MORE American thing to do! Desertion, on the other hand....not so good. Believe in abortions? Nope-but just as those who disagree with firearms ownership shouldn't impose their beliefs on others, I don't feel justified in imposing my belief system on others. It seems to me that this is the problem with modern America-no one is content to quietly enjoy their liberty-they feel the need to dictate how others should live. NEWS FLASH-there is no "right" not to be offended! Just because it's offensive to you doesn't justify criminalization. |
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WHEN WERE WE ATTACKED BY IRAQ??? Did I miss it? Was I out of the country? Invading Saudi Arabia would have been justified-but IRAQ???? |
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AWE INPIRING LEADER - laugh my ass off! One of the candidates has a grand vision to create peace in the middle east. He believes that project is bigger than himself, or any man, and could care less about the personal consequences. He knows it is going to be a long project. Probably 10 or more years before great results can be seen. Really, it will take a generation to replace some of the hatred for the US that is taught in Muslim run schools. It took 7 years to repair Germany and Japan after WWII. Iraq is about to hold elections. 1000's of Iraqi's are risking their lives for their new country to become policemen, and fight for peace and some form of representative government. Afghanistan made it through it's recent election with unimagined numbers of high voter turnout. Iran is said to be on the verge of citizen revolution. Mohammar Khaddafi (sp?) gave up his weapons programs and wishes to play nice. Then there was Kerry - he has a daughter campaigning in Australia to defeat the incumbant President, who supports us in Iraq. (He won anyway) He has made disparaging comments, which were acknowledged by Poland's leader. He has turned off the Japanese. Who will stand with us if Kerry is elected? France? Not likely... Chirac has the reality of a growing Muslim population which is about to take over his country. Germany will never stand by us. They have no standing army, and n national desire to fight with us. While, I acknowledge that Iraq is not the bullseye of terrorism in the Middle East, it is still important in the war on terror. It, and Afghanistan were the EASIEST countries to start with. A side benefit is that terrorists are swarming to Iraq to fight us and Iraqi soldiers over there, rather than here. There are more countries on the short list. I suspect Syria, Jordan, and Egypt are at the top of that list. Pakistan has a leader who supports us, but is having difficulty with his people, who tend to support terrorists. So they are a delicate matter that will require subtlety, rather than force. Bush seems to be moving us that way. The next 2 issues are very important, but secondary to me, after the war on terror, as nothing else matters if terrorists get in a couple major hits in the US. Judges, as acknowledged above, are another key issue to consider. Consider all the wacky election rulings we have been seeing in this election, and in the 2000 election, and in the 9th Circus Court in California. They have been Clinton and Carter appointments that are treating the Constitution as a living breathing document, subject to change. Bush promises to nominate jusges who believe their job is to interpret the Constitution, not create law from the bench (that is Congress' job) Tax Cuts, The last 4 years have been very tough on this country. The end of 2000 saw the stock market starting to cail, as the tech stock bubble was crashing. Then the acts of 9-11 served as a dagger into the heart, to finish the deal. However, Bush believed, as Kennedy and Reagan before him, that tax cuts leave valuable cash in the hand of businesses, who invest it and hire employees, and invest in infrastructure, which creates a chain reaction of spending throughout the economy. The tax on $200,000 plus income makers would directly affect my employer, who is a subchapter S corp. The owner files his taxes as the company taxes. Rolling back that tax, as Kerry promises to do, would cause my company to pay more taxes, and hire less employees, or find other ways to cut spending. We are currently preparing to expand into another city with an initial investment of $1.6 million to get started. A favorable economy is required to make such investments possible. The little guys (like me) don't need tax cuts... they are just a bone tossed our way to help get the big tax cuts passed. It is business who will use that money as an investment. How many companies do you know who are happy with status quo? vs companies that are trying to grow their business and create more jobs and more profit? So, how is a tax cut for a corporation a bad thing? Thank you Bush for having the foresight to know large tax cuts would keep the recession short and shallow. |
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I am so mad with what is going on around here that I can't really express it. If amendment 36 passes, and the state becomes insignificant in the presidential election process, I will never forgive the Dems for it. They are trying to sell our state out for 4 fucking electoral votes in this election.
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Two other points I would like to point out in this debate: One, when Bush took office we as a nation went from the largest budget surplus to the largest debt ever in the history of America. Granted, the economy was slowing down when Clinton left office (all those special prosocuters were out of work). Second, no matter how you view it September 11 happend under Bush. That is one fact that we can all agree to. The President of the USA has a lot of responsibility and chief among them is to make the USA the greatest economy and protect us. Bush has faild in both of these catagories. I am concerned with my personal rights, but I also want a nation that I can feel safe in and have a job that affords me my lifestyle. I disagree with Cat on one point, by electing Kerry there will be gridlock in governement. That is one of the worst thing that can happen to our rights.
Here in Colorado, one of the so called battleground states, the media and politians are trying to polarize the candidates both for president and senate. I think they are both more moderate that what is being portrayed. The differences are being promoted between all the candidates. One last point. My brother was in Vietnam when Kerry was and was a River Rat on a small boat and he holds nothing against Kerry in what the swift boat veterans are smearing him with. As you can guess, I will be voting for Kerry as well. Edited to add - Leisure_Shoot I have one question for you. You talk about repairs only taking 7 years after WWII and then you jump to the Afganistan elections, what happend to Korea and Vietnam? I think you are just using selective memory. I dont think anyone would say theya repaired, |
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So you don't feel that tech stocks were overrated? The fact that ANY tech stock could IPO and generate millions of dollars without ever posting a profit, doesn't sound like a recipe for eventual disaster to you? Sure, good feelings and money taking can keep a stock market going for so long, but eventually, it always corrects itself. |
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Back to the topic, there are some very unscrupulous people out there on both sides that can and will make horrible calls like this to people. I hope that no one was hurt by such a call.
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I would have dialed star 69 and called my lawyer
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Fixed it for you. Seriously though, this tremendous budget surplus that the Dems constantly harp on, was largely numbers on paper, based on assumptions about the economy which proved to be untrue. President Bush's tax cuts were responsible for making this one of the shallowest and shortest recessions in history. Now, do I believe that he needs to restrain spending (especially in socialist giveaway programs) more than he has? Absolutely. But the prospect of a die-hard tax-and-spend liberal in White House will be more than our economy can bear. |
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And most of what you complain about is either or was true before Bush was president... You don't own any of 'your' financial info... It is the property of the companies with which you do business... 'Your' library records are the property of your municipal government, and are (or should be) subject to FOIA requests... See a pattern? It's not 'your' property for them to take! And all that the Constitution requires with regard to search warrants (weather you call it a 'sneak & peek' or not, it's just a simple search warrant) is that it be issued by a judge, and contain sworn testimonay detaiing the specific places or persons to be searched, and specific items (if any) to be siezed... There is NO constitutioal requirement to inform a suspect of a swarch/siezure, and it is patently STUPID to do so, as it will give them the ability to destroy evidence and/or escape. It says 'unreasonable searches & siezures' (which means without a warrant, in general), not 'impolite searches & siezures'... |
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So, then you're a socialist... You want to have the government take money from people who have worked to earn & save it, and give it to those who have not, in the form of 'free' health care, 'free' college, and a 'free' job via illegal protectionist subsidies for eveyone who doesn't have what it takes to work in the modern economy... You're for being 'considerate' of 'allies in name only' even when they take positions that are 100% opposed to the best interests of the USA... You're for putting a man who is basically Jimmy Carter II in the White House... If those things don't apply, then you're NOT really a Kerry supporter... If they do, you'd be better off moing to North Korea or Vietnam, as we don't need any more socialists here... Because that's exactly what Kerry stands for... |
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Since when does someone have to attack us before we attack them? IIRC, as a sovreign nation, we have the right to attack any other nation when it's in our best interests... In this case, to properly deal with terrorisim, it takes more than just playing Cops & Robbers with Osama. We have to stop the recruitment chain by working to undermine the regimes of the Arab world & replace them with democracies. Iraq was the first step, as Saddam was allready guilty of multiple offenses (including attacking US military aircraft, and financing terrorisim in Isarel & elsewhere) that could be use dto 'justify' the war to the rest of the world... In the end, it's about forced reformation of the ME, about overthrowing the regimes that create a fertile ground for terrorist recruits... It's about eliminating our need to deal with the Saudis, by making Quatar & a 'New' Iraq our partners in the ME & giving the Saudis the shaft... In case you didn't notice, we are allready moving forces OUT of Saudi.... |
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WHAT PART OF 'KERRY HAS PROMISED ABSOLUTE AMNESTY' DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND |
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Germany didn't attack us in 1941, Italy didn't attack us in 1941, Austria didn't attack us in 1941, Kosovo didn't attack us in the 1990s, Iraq didn't attack us in 1992.
Get the picture, Einstein? |
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This was a standard tactic run by anti-war types during the Vietnam War. Happened to a friend of mine's wife twice.
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students with shitty jobs for kerry. Look, there is no winning this demographic. Its going to suck when Kerry's communist judges ban every firearm in the nation from private ownership. There is a reason he is going to college, he is ignorant. Some day he will grow up. |
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I smell a .
Hey, it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour and it 'aint over now, dangit. |
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