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Originally Posted By akchef: “Santos Maria Chilel Soto”… With a name like that, this hunter was probably saving ICE from having to spend manpower and resources to find, arrest and deport her! That aside, Delaware being the deep blue lefty state that it is, sure threw every possible thing they could at him! “Possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony”?? It was à hunting accident, not bank robbery ffs! After my son got out of the Air Force he became a night supervisor at a Perdue chicken processing plant in Delaware. They had s lot of Mexican employees. The were legal and very hard workers. He even started to learn some Spanish so he could at least exchange a few pleasantries with them. |
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Originally Posted By drew5337: Arfcom is an echo chamber, so let me break something to you guys: Not everyone who can have a gun, should. In fact there's a LOT of them that have absolutely no business being in possession of a firearm, due to stupidity, ignorance, irresponsibility, or all of the above. |
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Originally Posted By PCB66: Killing dat deer is important to them. Damn important. Originally Posted By PCB66: Originally Posted By Sorad9:. Most hunters are gay and retarded. Killing dat deer is important to them. Damn important. And most gun owners are racist rednecks, and most cops are power hungry assholes. It's fun making sweeping generalities, isn't it? |
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Originally Posted By Windustsearch: People walk through and work in the woods in all seasons. They are not closed off for hunting. I have no idea why people think they are or where they got that idea. |
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Originally Posted By INI: Is it even hunting season in that locale right now? Archery and crossbow . The story is suspicious. The date, time, and location don't add up. Or, the shooter is incompetent and has no idea about any of that. Where are the add on charges of hunting out of season , after legal hours? Permits? |
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Originally Posted By 50cal: Sad, but true. Originally Posted By 50cal: Originally Posted By drew5337: Arfcom is an echo chamber, so let me break something to you guys: Not everyone who can have a gun, should. In fact there's a LOT of them that have absolutely no business being in possession of a firearm, due to stupidity, ignorance, irresponsibility, or all of the above. Go to a gun show and watch the muzzle discipline of people handling guns . |
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Originally Posted By shack357: I've never come that close, but I had a deer staring at me 15 minutes before shooting time. Wondered if I dared risk it and take the shot. I didn't shoot. 10 minutes later(still 5 minutes before shooting time) the light changed. It wasn't a deer at all, just a bush that was the right shape to look like a head and antlers in the right light. It really is unreal what your mind makes you see when you want to see it. ETA-Stephen King's book Dreamcatcher has a close call like this in it. Guy is hunting from an elevated stand, sees a doe and focuses on her eye. Raises his rifle and waits JUST long enough, and he realizes the doe's eye is the black button on a man's brown coat. For those who don't hunt it's hard to explain just how it works, but as much as us gun guys hate Stephen King, that particular scene is the best explanition of deer fever I've ever seen. Friendly fire incidents in combat happen the same way. Originally Posted By shack357: Originally Posted By Kharn: Originally Posted By Vne: Happens literally all the time. I can't tell you how many times I've mistaken people for deer. I'll have the perfect site picture on them, finger on the trigger, vibrating with excitement, and all of a sudden the deer takes a drag off a cigarette. Wtf? Deer don't do tha... Dammit, it's another human! And the shooter is 74 years old, he wouldn't see the cigarette... I've never come that close, but I had a deer staring at me 15 minutes before shooting time. Wondered if I dared risk it and take the shot. I didn't shoot. 10 minutes later(still 5 minutes before shooting time) the light changed. It wasn't a deer at all, just a bush that was the right shape to look like a head and antlers in the right light. It really is unreal what your mind makes you see when you want to see it. ETA-Stephen King's book Dreamcatcher has a close call like this in it. Guy is hunting from an elevated stand, sees a doe and focuses on her eye. Raises his rifle and waits JUST long enough, and he realizes the doe's eye is the black button on a man's brown coat. For those who don't hunt it's hard to explain just how it works, but as much as us gun guys hate Stephen King, that particular scene is the best explanition of deer fever I've ever seen. Friendly fire incidents in combat happen the same way. Shooting while hunting without absolutely knowing what it is, is reckless and negligent. If it is a deer and you don't shoot right now, maybe you don't get 50 lbs of meat in the freezer but if you do shoot and it's a person you maybe kill them. I hunt. I don't take any shot unless I see most of the deer and there is no doubt it is a deer and I have identified it as a buck, doe or fawn. But i have never gotten buck fever. Maybe if the deer start shooting back I might get a little exited. |
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| I remember this happened to a woman hanging her laundry on a clothesline in Maine. She died, but the hunter was cleared because she wasn't wearing an orange vest during hunting season. But this was rural Maine. And she was new to the area, I think visiting family. |
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Originally Posted By BB: Fuck that guy. Not mentioned in the linked article. A speculative possibility only, that ignores legal shooting hours. I'm betting that spotlighting is never legal in Delaware. |
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Originally Posted By GaryM: It is a tragedy but what was the situation where a family was walking through an area where there are hunters? I do know a few areas where that could happen but just a small amount of sense keeps this sort of thing from happening. Assuming it was truly a mistake what would be a legit punishment? In my opinion it is gross negligence and is a criminal act. Shooting at something in an un-safe manor and causing death is not an accident or a mistake it is gross negligence with a lethal weapon. |
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Here is 20+ years of hunting accident reports in Texas. Outside of public land, we don't have mandatory hunter orange laws. These things still rarely happen. Most accidents are dipshits with guns being dipshits with guns. https://tpwd.texas.gov/education/hunter-education/accidents |
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Originally Posted By Hking: There is ZERO excuse to shoot at anything you are not 100% sure on. Makes it pretty simple doesn’t it. I’ve never heard of “sound shooting” before reading this. Why would anyone with a hint of a brain shoot a a sound. Fucking idiots shouldn’t own a gun period. |
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Which is why I put an orange hat on a stick and set it up high above me when I turkey hunt. There are too many idiots in the woods with guns.
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Originally Posted By Morlawn66: Go to a gun show and watch the muzzle discipline of people handling guns . Getting swept at gun shows is all too common. |
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Originally Posted By BB: Apparently he was hunting on a crop damage permit. The Hunter was from MD, not DE. I believe you have to be a resident to legally be able to hunt with a crop damage permit. It will be interesting to hear if he had permission to hunt that private property, and what kind of permit he was using. (And) As it has been mentioned, shooting took place around 7:40pm, according to the article. Sunset has been apprx 7:15pm lately. (And I live further West than DE.) |
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Originally Posted By HKocher: One is too many. How do you mistake a human being for an animal? Originally Posted By HKocher: Originally Posted By DmacRTCo: Originally Posted By Monsterbishi: Happens entirely too often :-( No it doesn’t. Hunting accidents are statistical anomalies. One is too many. How do you mistake a human being for an animal? This is the real question. The “mistaken game” happens all over the world & there are studies without answers, unfortunately. When I covered trauma, I saw several hunting accidents that were fatal. The common statement in the report from LEO was “the shooter claims to have seen X” where X was either a deer or turkey. Only ONE case was a NOT mistaken—in that case, poor choices & failure of common sense was the issue. Two friends were unaware of where each other was deer hunting. So, when a deer ran between them, they were directly in each other’s line of fire. The one guy got hit by his friend’s bullet AFTER it went through the deer, which was probably why I could save him. It was a belly shot & fortuitously, the friend threw him in the car & drove to the ER. The other cases were head shots. One hunter who accidentally killed a family member SWORE there was a tom turkey he SAW, not heard. But it wasn’t. It was a teen family member. The other 3 were headshots. So, how does a human mistake another human for a deer or turkey? The corollary to this question of mistaken game is the same as people who claim to see aliens, UFOs/UAPs, bigfoot, angels, ghosts, faces in French Toast, etc, etc, etc. IMO. Psychological priming and the brain’s processing of incomplete information & tendency to “filling in the blanks” to make something is a very real yet poorly understood phenomena. It is understood as well as used in marketing & brand recognition in advertising, propaganda, etc but the actual mechanism isn’t completely understood. There are optical illusions online one can search to see distorted shapes, colors, objects, etc. With hunting: alcohol, poor vision, poor lighting, poor choices, poor safety and it’s no wonder these events occur. I quit deer hunting in my 20s after being shot at by a “fellow hunter” who was running after a buck in a scrub area with poor visibility, he shooting from his hip with an unplugged (he was supposed to have 3 shots, not 5) 12G. The buckshot missed me, but did hit the tree I was leaning against. Said “hunter” also pointed his shotgun directly at me when I saw the deer go down & he didn’t and walked over & called to him. Sounds like a real, “ethic human,” no? That was the moment I realized if I chose to continue to place myself around idiots with guns, that’s on me. Most of the people I knew were more like this guy than me, so it was an easy choice. |
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Originally Posted By dorobuta: Because the woods belong to everyone, not just hunters - unless you're on private property. I'm a hunter and I've had hunters and non-hunters show up miles from the nearest road . Originally Posted By dorobuta: Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: RIP, condolences to the family. Yeah, be sure of target is a rule. Why are families walking through the woods during hunting season? Why was he hunting land that had families in it? Because the woods belong to everyone, not just hunters - unless you're on private property. I'm a hunter and I've had hunters and non-hunters show up miles from the nearest road . |
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Originally Posted By WildBoar: Please give up hunting. Sounds like this guy in the story was like you until he got old. Originally Posted By WildBoar: Originally Posted By Vne: Happens literally all the time. I can't tell you how many times I've mistaken people for deer. I'll have the perfect site picture on them, finger on the trigger, vibrating with excitement, and all of a sudden the deer takes a drag off a cigarette. Wtf? Deer don't do tha... Dammit, it's another human! Please give up hunting. Sounds like this guy in the story was like you until he got old. |
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Originally Posted By Currahee: I guess that might be state dependent. In Mississippi we have a mot of private hunting leases/property that is closed. We also have a good amount of public land that is hunted, but certainly not closed. We have both public and private lands in NYS. Among the public lands are Wildlife Management Units which are primarily for hunters but some do have hiking trails running through them. I was going around and around with DEC earlier this year because they're trying to crack down on non-hunters having access to the non hiking portions of the WMU year-round. Our local segment of the states long distance hiking trail also has extensive trail closures during hunting season in parts of the trail that cross private land |
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“Deer Fever” is a thing, particularly early in the season. You see some sort of movement and combined with anticipation, the mind fills in the missing pieces of what you want to see. That is why “Identify your target and what is beyond” is one of the FOUR ABSOLUTES of gun handling. Sadly, there are also just a lot of dumbass hunters. I’ll never forget a comment made by an old hunter in my youth; “I heard something rustling in the brush, so I took a shot.” I was like; 
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Originally Posted By akchef: “Santos Maria Chilel Soto”… With a name like that, this hunter was probably saving ICE from having to spend manpower and resources to find, arrest and deport her! That aside, Delaware being the deep blue lefty state that it is, sure threw every possible thing they could at him! “Possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony”?? It was à hunting accident, not bank robbery ffs! When you choose to carry/shoot a firearm, you are responsible for where every bullet ends up. This may have been unintentional but it was no “accident”. The old guy failed to identify his target. |
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The 4 Cardinal Rules Treat all firearms as if they are loaded. Always assume a gun has live ammunition inside it, even if you think it is empty. Visually and physically check the chamber and magazine every time you pick up a firearm. Never point the muzzle at anything you are not willing to destroy. Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction—an area where an accidental discharge would not cause injury or property damage. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target. Keep your finger straight and outside the trigger guard until you have made the conscious decision to shoot.Be sure of your target and what lies beyond it. Know exactly what your bullet will hit. Ensure that a missed shot or an over-penetrating round will not harm anyone or anything in the background. He violated 3 out of the 4. Fuck him. Fucking idiot hunters. I was walking back to my vehicle. On a dirt road. Wearing a blaze orange vest and hat. I see a guy in a tree stand pointing his rifle at me looking through his scope. Maybe 50+ yards away. Says he was making sure I wasn't a deer or some nonsense. Fucking morans. There will be more stories like this. |
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| I stopped hunting in PA because all I had access to was public land and it was an absolute shit show. I mostly hunted during archery season, but it overlapped with pheasant for a weekend or two. Had far to many old timers point shotguns at me up in a treestand wearing blaze. During rifle season, holy fuck it sounded like a war began at first light. |
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Originally Posted By Chizult: And most gun owners are racist rednecks, and most cops are power hungry assholes. It's fun making sweeping generalities, isn't it? Originally Posted By Chizult: Originally Posted By PCB66: Originally Posted By Sorad9:. Most hunters are gay and retarded. Killing dat deer is important to them. Damn important. And most gun owners are racist rednecks, and most cops are power hungry assholes. It's fun making sweeping generalities, isn't it? If you forced horn hunters to take a doe first before a buck tag was issued [only way to control the herd size that works] 1/2 the deer hunters would disappear from the woods. Way to many people really do go all stupid and tarded when you stick a weapon in their hands and point them towards the woods. |
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Closest I've come was when I was hunting in AK, I came upon a nice bare field and saw a hunter with his rifle pointed at me. I went to ground, and waited until he wasn't there anymore. A couple hours later I saw him working the woods, I called out and asked him if he was the person pointing a gun at me. His response was " I was using my scope to identify you" I told him a pair of binoculars would be a better idea than pointing rifles at people. |
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Originally Posted By DmacRTCo: No it doesn’t. Hunting accidents are statistical anomalies. Once is too often. If you properly identify your prospective target before shooting you will never, ever do anything like this. There is absolutely no way to misidentify a human as anything but a human if you’re not shooting at movement, sound, or a color. This is criminal negligence, depraved indifference, etc. |
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It happens. Typically in areas where dudes don't wear hunters orange. Dudes get to amped up and shoot at noise/movement thinking its a deer. My dad actually found a guy that had been accidentally shot on public land when I was a kid. He quit hunting public after that and we only hunted leased properties for my entire life. I hunt public now but I'm under no illusions. Shit can happen. I wear orange. Originally Posted By DmacRTCo: No it doesn’t. Hunting accidents are statistical anomalies. If you factor in the sheer number hunters to number of fatalities perhaps. But I can tell you with absolutely certainty this season in Louisiana at least 1 or 2 people will be accidentally shot. Perhaps more. How do I know this? Because it happens every single year. Actual studies cite between 2014 and 2024 there were 464 accidents and 63 fatalities in North America. Statistically speaking hunting is a very safe activity. And most injuries are from something like falling out of a tree. But in general every year someone will die from an accidental shooting. And people will die from exposure/the elements. Last year I think 2 duck hunters and 2 elk hunters were killed by lightning strikes alone. |
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Originally Posted By GaryM: It is a tragedy but what was the situation where a family was walking through an area where there are hunters? I do know a few areas where that could happen but just a small amount of sense keeps this sort of thing from happening. Assuming it was truly a mistake what would be a legit punishment? |
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Originally Posted By morglan: He fucked up, and should be brought to justice, but this: "as well as a count of possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony" is the biggest bullshit, nanny-blue-state, "gotta get those criminal gun owners" charge I've ever seen. Literally fuck the person that added that charge on, I hope the rest of their career is hell. The other prosecutorial tactic: overcharge then offer a too-sweet-to-turn-down plea deal. Of course that offer come shortly before or on the first day of the trial…which is two, three, maybe more years down the road, during which your life was disrupted (restricted travel, firearms confiscated, loss of employment, etc.). |
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| Incidents like this are why I’m against Sunday hunting ever being a thing in Maine. I live in the mountains of NW Maine, about as far from civilization as it’s possible to be (the nearest traffic light is about 75 miles away), and some of the locals are as bad as the worst of the people from “away.” I like having one day per week when I’m a little more safe from some idiot shooting me while I’m out hiking. |
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Originally Posted By Monsterbishi: Happens entirely too often :-( This, since you have hikers that will walk through known hunting areas in the first place during season, much less no Orange or other bright colors to alert any hunters they they are in the area moving through it. The compound that with the amount of hunters that don't have a clue, shooting horses, cow, and just about anything that is moving, since don't have a clue what the animal they are hunting in the first place looks like, or waiting to identify the target before they pull they drop the safety and pull the trigger. |
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Originally Posted By DubyaB: Literally never heard anyone in my life say they took or knew of anyone who shot at sounds. Or even a story of someone doing that But I hunt in the west Originally Posted By DubyaB: Originally Posted By Trailboss:I was working a deer check station at an old country store in the mountains of VA while in college, and a nimrod showed up mid-morning on opening day and was wanting to buy a box of 'thuty-thuty'. The men sitting around the coal stove asked him if he got any deer and he said all he had were 'sound shots'. He'd hear some rustling behind the rhododendron bushes and blast away but never found anything when he went to check. He ran out of ammo. Another nimrod said he had a couple of them also. I never deer hunted opening day of rifle season on public lands since then. I also stay way away from thickets of rhododendron, palmetto, etc. unless we're loudly chasing rabbits or hogs with dogs. Or even a story of someone doing that But I hunt in the west My favorite story was the guy who didn't know how to unload his rifle, so when he wanted to quit for the day he mag dumped into a tree ...that had a hunter leaning against the other side. |
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Originally Posted By diesel1: Orange sucks less than the old red but still sucks because 8ish % of the male population has the red/green "color blindness" where shades of red, including orange will blend into background colors. I've run over a few red/orange extension cords laying in the grass. There might be a reason why "lime green" has become the predominant color for hi-viz safety attire. It works for everyone. Stupid State of WI DOT tried orange striping for highway lanes which tended to almost disappear under certain conditions. Fortunately, they gave up on that. Originally Posted By diesel1: Originally Posted By tac556: A lot of “hunters” are fucking morons and/or drunks. Guess why hunter orange exists? Because of way too many incidents like this over the years. Never wear tan/brown colored clothes in the woods during deer season… Orange sucks less than the old red but still sucks because 8ish % of the male population has the red/green "color blindness" where shades of red, including orange will blend into background colors. I've run over a few red/orange extension cords laying in the grass. There might be a reason why "lime green" has become the predominant color for hi-viz safety attire. It works for everyone. Stupid State of WI DOT tried orange striping for highway lanes which tended to almost disappear under certain conditions. Fortunately, they gave up on that. Quoting myself here. Got to wondering exactly what the requirements are and was a bit surprised to find this on the WI DNR website: "When and where a firearm deer season is in progress, it is illegal to hunt any game, except waterfowl, unless at least 50% of the hunter’s outer clothing above the waist is colored blaze orange or fluorescent pink. A hat or other head covering, if worn, must be at least 50% blaze orange or fluorescent pink. Faded or stained blaze orange or fluorescent pink clothing is unsafe and may not meet legal requirements. Although not as visible, camo-blaze is legal if 50% or more of the material is blaze orange or fluorescent pink. The DNR recommends 100% solid blaze orange or fluorescent pink." So, it is illegal to hunt with hi-vis lime-green/yellow-green safety attire that is actually more visible than orange! As one of the 8% that is a bit color-challenged, that seems stupid. I don't hunt but I do keep a hi-vis vest in each of my work trucks just in case I have to check tie-downs or change a tire on the side of the road. |
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Originally Posted By NobodyHere: The Hunter was from MD, not DE. I believe you have to be a resident to legally be able to hunt with a crop damage permit. It will be interesting to hear if he had permission to hunt that private property, and what kind of permit he was using. (And) As it has been mentioned, shooting took place around 7:40pm, according to the article. Sunset has been apprx 7:15pm lately. (And I live further West than DE.) |
In real life these things don't happen much at all
It's too bad we all live the dream
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Originally Posted By Orion10182011: I was shocked to learn just how many hunters will shoot at noise hoping it's a deer.  Many people are overblowing that. If it is common, it's with the much older crowd. Also being over blown are the number of these incidents. There's a reason this is a multiple page thread and an article that made national news. A hunter accidentally killing a stranger in the woods is extremely uncommon (and that may not even be what happened here). Most hunting fatalities are self inflicted wounds or those in your hunting party from mishandling firearms, not hunters misidentifying prey. |
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Originally Posted By diesel1: Quoting myself here. Got to wondering exactly what the requirements are and was a bit surprised to find this on the WI DNR website: "When and where a firearm deer season is in progress, it is illegal to hunt any game, except waterfowl, unless at least 50% of the hunter's outer clothing above the waist is colored blaze orange or fluorescent pink. A hat or other head covering, if worn, must be at least 50% blaze orange or fluorescent pink. Faded or stained blaze orange or fluorescent pink clothing is unsafe and may not meet legal requirements. Although not as visible, camo-blaze is legal if 50% or more of the material is blaze orange or fluorescent pink. The DNR recommends 100% solid blaze orange or fluorescent pink." So, it is illegal to hunt with hi-vis lime-green/yellow-green safety attire that is actually more visible than orange! I don't hunt but I do keep a hi-vis vest in each of my work trucks just in case I have to check tie-downs or change a tire on the side of the road. Originally Posted By diesel1: Originally Posted By diesel1:Orange sucks less than the old red but still sucks because 8ish % of the male population has the red/green "color blindness" where shades of red, including orange will blend into background colors. I've run over a few red/orange extension cords laying in the grass. There might be a reason why "lime green" has become the predominant color for hi-viz safety attire. It works for everyone. Stupid State of WI DOT tried orange striping for highway lanes which tended to almost disappear under certain conditions. Fortunately, they gave up on that. "When and where a firearm deer season is in progress, it is illegal to hunt any game, except waterfowl, unless at least 50% of the hunter's outer clothing above the waist is colored blaze orange or fluorescent pink. A hat or other head covering, if worn, must be at least 50% blaze orange or fluorescent pink. Faded or stained blaze orange or fluorescent pink clothing is unsafe and may not meet legal requirements. Although not as visible, camo-blaze is legal if 50% or more of the material is blaze orange or fluorescent pink. The DNR recommends 100% solid blaze orange or fluorescent pink." So, it is illegal to hunt with hi-vis lime-green/yellow-green safety attire that is actually more visible than orange! I don't hunt but I do keep a hi-vis vest in each of my work trucks just in case I have to check tie-downs or change a tire on the side of the road. |
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Originally Posted By PacNW5: "The preliminary investigation revealed that the victim was walking through the field ....... The incident unfolded around 7:40 p.m. on Friday..... Sunset in Georgetown, DE was 7:04 on Friday. DE allows deer hunting 30 minutes after sunset. Throw a poaching charge on top for good measure. Zero sympathy for the guy. Unfortunately he will probably get less than what he deserves. |
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Originally Posted By Clemson_John: You're also a lot further South than Delaware. Sunset was at 7:04 there last Friday, so he's likely going to face charges for hunting outside of legal hours too (more than 30 minutes after sunset). Shooting light ended at 7:35 on Friday. I know because I was in the stand in Delaware, and yes, with a shotgun He's 60 miles south of me, so 7:40ish is plausibly legal light. |
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Originally Posted By Chizult: Shooting light ended at 7:35 on Friday. I know because I was in the stand in Delaware, and yes, with a shotgun He's 60 miles south of me, so 7:40ish is plausibly legal light. Originally Posted By Chizult: Originally Posted By Clemson_John: You're also a lot further South than Delaware. Sunset was at 7:04 there last Friday, so he's likely going to face charges for hunting outside of legal hours too (more than 30 minutes after sunset). Shooting light ended at 7:35 on Friday. I know because I was in the stand in Delaware, and yes, with a shotgun He's 60 miles south of me, so 7:40ish is plausibly legal light. |
In real life these things don't happen much at all
It's too bad we all live the dream
It's too bad we all live the dream
| This is one of the reasons I like hunting from an elevated box blind over a feeder on leased private land. The chances of of someone mistaking my blind for a deer are basically zero. The chances of me mistaking a deer for something else is basically zero because the feeder brings them into clear view, and if I decide to shoot a deer I've been watching it for a minute. And, being on private property, which is 2000 acres in the middle of nowhere, means I have a much better chance of knowing who is out there and where they should be hunting. I've hunted public land, and people are stupid. |
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Originally Posted By JaredC1: The woods aren’t closed because you want to chase deer Originally Posted By JaredC1: Originally Posted By StevenH: Used to be people stayed out of the woods or wore orange during deer season. Now you see mountain bikers, horseback riders, dog walkers… The woods aren’t closed because you want to chase deer It’s kinda like playing in the street though. People used to recognize the danger and take steps to mitigate that danger. |
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