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Yesterday 3:05:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: xd341][Edited] [#1]
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Originally Posted By wgjhsafT:


Don't know.  I just enjoy the F15 talk and random details about other stuff.

Xi is coming to the US and apparently China is pressuring Iran to quit blowing up refineries in Saudi Arabia.  That's all I got.
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  • Big picture, the Houthi did more serious damage to Saudi oil infrastructure in a week than Iran did in months, and everyone has determined that that shit has to stop.

  • Bibi and Trump canceled plans and are headed to situation rooms in their respective capitals.

  • The state department told every embassy in the region to hang on to their butts/expect some shit.

  • An EAM was transmitted, probably saying "drink Ovaltine", but it was only 17 characters....so doom.

  •   A single B1 took off from the land of beans and toast and a journo determined that it was using "full afterburner" so it must be headed to war.

  •  Ukraine fucked the eyes out of a refinery in Russia, further exacerbating (hehe) the global fuel shortage.

  • Saudi told the EU sorry about your luck when it comes to oil.

  • discussion of the significance of said development lead to extreme plane dorking and dark humor regarding the use of nuclear weapons (b1s can't drop nukes anymore)
  • Everyone agreed the plane dorking was more interesting than the happenings.

There, this has been your 1500 happing con sitrep

Bottom line at the bottom (BLATB)

It's not happenings.....yet.
Yesterday 3:13:16 PM EDT
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I heard the B1s have a different tire on the front than those on the back. Might explain why we haven't nuked Iran yet.
Yesterday 3:14:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
If it's like other old, many times upgraded platforms, there is probably all manner of wires in the dash that don't do anything anymore.

I've seen stats on wiring in the buff.  It's an impressive mess.


Uncle sugar is rather particular about authorizing the release of crowd pleasers.  There are specific systems required.  It changes and obviously they don't talk about it much but it's not as easy as dropping a JDAM. At least that's my understanding.   And like others have said, she's entering her twilight years.  We have other systems to get that job done.

Nothing as sexy though.  No offense to the Strike guys, and Fat Amy knows she's an Alaska 7.
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But do the B-2 and B-21 have the same capability? Genuine question. Isn't the B-1B the last low level penetration bomber we have?
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Yesterday 3:15:28 PM EDT
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Is it passable Isreal closed its airspace

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And only hit and miss tankers flying around

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The difficult we can do immediately
The impossible takes a little longer
Yesterday 3:16:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PikeSlayer:
I heard the B1s have a different tire on the front than those on the back. Might explain why we haven't nuked Iran yet.
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If the jet is based in England, then wouldn’t it be ‘tyre’?
Yesterday 3:16:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
I don't know the language of the treaty or how it was implemented, but I'm sure it was more than just putting a piece of tape over the button and writing "no" on it.
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I dunno...remember all those Russian capture K98's that were "disabled" under an arms control agreement by removing the cleaning rods?
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Yesterday 3:23:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By R2point0:
But do the B-2 and B-21 have the same capability? Genuine question. Isn't the B-1B the last low level penetration bomber we have?
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That was the Bs mission. Not sure if the B2 does low level.  TF radars are certainly still a thing but I doubt they want to be beating up billion dollar national assets down low.  Just guessing.

The low and fast profile is mechanically tough on B1s and the crews probably.
Yesterday 3:24:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LittlePony:
... so ... what is happening?
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@LittlePony
See page 6 post 17. Besides a bunch of airplane talk this seems to be a good update so far.
Yesterday 3:25:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LittlePony:
... so ... what is happening?
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Nothing just everyone admiring the 3 foot zipper suits in here
Yesterday 3:29:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
Hell of a paradox ain't it?
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The logic of Mutually Assured Destruction, where building bomb shelters is considered an aggressive act. We'll never know it it was brilliant or insane, logical or if we just got extraordinarily lucky.
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Yesterday 3:30:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By R2point0:
The logic of Mutually Assured Destruction, where building bomb shelters is considered an aggressive act. We'll never know it it was brilliant or insane, logical or if we just got extraordinarily lucky.
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all of the above, at different times.
Yesterday 3:32:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By R2point0:
But do the B-2 and B-21 have the same capability? Genuine question. Isn't the B-1B the last low level penetration bomber we have?
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Cant the F-35 fill that role? Outside of it not being a bomber of course
-Women should always wear tight clothes and men should carry powerful handguns
Yesterday 3:36:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
Big picture, the Houthi did more serious damage to Saudi oil infrastructure in a week than Iran did in months, and everyone has determined that that shit has to stop.

Bibi and Trump canceled plans and are headed to situation rooms in their respective capitals, the state department told every embassy in the region to hang on to their butts/expect some shit. An EAM was transmitted, probably saying "drink Ovaltine", but it was only 17 characters....so doom.   A single B1 took off from the land of beans and toast and a journo determined that it was using "full afterburner" so it must be headed to war.  Ukraine fucked the eyes out of a refinery in Russia, further exacerbating (hehe) the global fuel shortage, Saudi told the EU sorry about your luck when it comes to oil.  

discussion of the significance of said development lead to extreme plane dorking and dark humor regarding the use of nuclear weapons (b1s can't drop nukes anymore)  Everyone agreed the plane dorkign was more interesting than the happenings.

There, this has been your 1500 happing con brief.

Bottom line at the bottom (BLATB)

It's not happenings.....yet.
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You forgot about hand lotion and where to insert Slim Jims.
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Yesterday 3:37:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By R2point0:
You forgot about hand lotion and where to insert Slim Jims.
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Originally Posted By R2point0:
Originally Posted By xd341:
Big picture, the Houthi did more serious damage to Saudi oil infrastructure in a week than Iran did in months, and everyone has determined that that shit has to stop.

Bibi and Trump canceled plans and are headed to situation rooms in their respective capitals, the state department told every embassy in the region to hang on to their butts/expect some shit. An EAM was transmitted, probably saying "drink Ovaltine", but it was only 17 characters....so doom.   A single B1 took off from the land of beans and toast and a journo determined that it was using "full afterburner" so it must be headed to war.  Ukraine fucked the eyes out of a refinery in Russia, further exacerbating (hehe) the global fuel shortage, Saudi told the EU sorry about your luck when it comes to oil.  

discussion of the significance of said development lead to extreme plane dorking and dark humor regarding the use of nuclear weapons (b1s can't drop nukes anymore)  Everyone agreed the plane dorkign was more interesting than the happenings.

There, this has been your 1500 happing con brief.

Bottom line at the bottom (BLATB)

It's not happenings.....yet.
You forgot about hand lotion and where to insert Slim Jims.

Yeah, it's probably already too late for bagged gasoline.
Yesterday 3:42:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MudEagle:

What is going on is that most people don't understand how the EAM system works, or what kinds of messages are being transmitted by it.

They seem to think that a different message length in an encoded EAM signifies that some sort of war order that possibly includes the use of nuclear weapons is being transmitted.
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You will never know.  It could be somebody asking for more toilet paper.
Yesterday 3:45:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
Oh! shit. Didn't even think of that.  Gotta be an issue for 22s as well, they can get up there.
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It’s an issue for the human body, the aircraft doesn’t matter.  Above 50k feet even if pressure breathing pure oxygen you’ll pass out in a few seconds and die in a couple minutes or less.  
There’s a reason u2 and sr71 pilots wear pressurized space suits.  
Yesterday 3:46:06 PM EDT
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The B-2 was set up to do low level penetration. I remember seeing a documentary about them working out how to do that in the late 90s.

That said, I don’t think they train for that mission very often.
Exaggerate the essential, leave the obvious vague.
Yesterday 3:47:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BB:

Cant the F-35 fill that role? Outside of it not being a bomber of course
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Originally Posted By BB:
Originally Posted By R2point0:
But do the B-2 and B-21 have the same capability? Genuine question. Isn't the B-1B the last low level penetration bomber we have?

Cant the F-35 fill that role? Outside of it not being a bomber of course


The F-35 can definitely do that job. It’s been set up to drop bombs for awhile. The USAF just doesn’t like the F/A designation very much.
Exaggerate the essential, leave the obvious vague.
Yesterday 3:52:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Morgan321:
It's an issue for the human body, the aircraft doesn't matter.  Above 50k feet even if pressure breathing pure oxygen you'll pass out in a few seconds and die in a couple minutes or less.  
There's a reason u2 and sr71 pilots wear pressurized space suits.  
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Yeah I knew about the suits for the black jets.  I didn't realize how quickly an engine failure could depressurize the cockpit.  Makes sense I just never thought about it.
Yesterday 4:27:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
Yeah I knew about the suits for the black jets.  I didn't realize how quickly an engine failure could depressurize the cockpit.  Makes sense I just never thought about it.
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Depends a lot on the age, condition, and construction of the aircraft.  
Keep in mind fighters have a very low fixed differential cabin pressurization.  Cabin altitudes in the teens and 20s of thousands of feet at the service ceiling are normal.  Couple that low pressure with very small cockpit volumes and a large canopy seal and cockpit altitude can climb quickly if you lose bleed air.  

F22 can support a g-vest.  Its main stated purpose is added g tolerance, but it does add some altitude tolerance by enabling you to pressure breath pure oxygen at slightly higher than normal pressures.
Yesterday 4:30:06 PM EDT
[#21]
I have a feeling that Putin is gonna make a move against one of the Baltic countries with really hot women




Yesterday 4:37:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mcantu:
I have a feeling that Putin is gonna make a move against one of the Baltic countries with really hot women



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSrIL6sXoAA9-fe?format=png&name=900x900
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Pooty thinks now's the time huh?

Oh boy.
Yesterday 4:43:11 PM EDT
[#23]
All I want to know is, when will Turkey and Pakistan gear up for SAs defense. Mecca Agreement

Let them take care of this deer fly.
"Peace is that brief glorious moment in time when everyone stands around, and wise men are reloading."
-Somebody that's been there.
Yesterday 4:54:27 PM EDT
[#24]
Who even are these people posting on twitter?  Is it lucrative to just make stuff up and post it as some deep staye conspiracy?
Yesterday 4:58:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StillGonnaSendIt:
Who even are these people posting on twitter?  Is it lucrative to just make stuff up and post it as some deep staye conspiracy?
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¿Que?
Yesterday 5:07:29 PM EDT
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At the bottom of your FlightRadar24 window is a filter button. If you click that you can choose to see only military or government aircraft. That will get rid the clutter of commercial flights.
Yesterday 5:09:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HobbitHunter:

¿Que?
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Every now and then a thread pops up talking ablut something huge is happening massive ufo thermonuclear exchange with plutos outer ring defense sytems on Neptune. All started by posts from X (formerly twitter) from people who say things like 'my sources source has a husbamd whos cousin knows a guy who ate breakfast at the same restaurant as a guy who heard about a guy'.  The tjreads produce interesting conversation but the OP X posts are almost always forgotten.
Yesterday 5:18:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mcantu:
I have a feeling that Putin is gonna make a move against one of the Baltic countries with really hot women



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSrIL6sXoAA9-fe?format=png&name=900x900
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I think it is more along the lines that Russians are escaping Russia into Estonia and Russia wants to stop it.
Mach
Nobody is coming to save us.

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Yesterday 5:22:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ekg98:


You will never know.  It could be somebody asking for more toilet paper.
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Warning to submarines to be aware of giant marine worms. (True story, slightly different context)
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Yesterday 5:24:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
Pooty thinks now's the time huh?

Oh boy.
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Who really believes that level of nonsense?

EU level fear mongering and misdirection.
Yesterday 5:26:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StillGonnaSendIt:

Every now and then a thread pops up talking ablut something huge is happening massive ufo thermonuclear exchange with plutos outer ring defense sytems on Neptune. All started by posts from X (formerly twitter) from people who say things like 'my sources source has a husbamd whos cousin knows a guy who ate breakfast at the same restaurant as a guy who heard about a guy'.  The tjreads produce interesting conversation but the OP X posts are almost always forgotten.
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Originally Posted By StillGonnaSendIt:
Originally Posted By HobbitHunter:

¿Que?

Every now and then a thread pops up talking ablut something huge is happening massive ufo thermonuclear exchange with plutos outer ring defense sytems on Neptune. All started by posts from X (formerly twitter) from people who say things like 'my sources source has a husbamd whos cousin knows a guy who ate breakfast at the same restaurant as a guy who heard about a guy'.  The tjreads produce interesting conversation but the OP X posts are almost always forgotten.

I apologize, i was going for a sublte Q predictions reference (hence the bolded Q), not a genuine misunderstunding of what you were asking.

Again, sorry for the confusion.
Yesterday 5:27:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Plutonius:


Who really believes that level of nonsense?

EU level fear mongering and misdirection.
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Normally I would agree. If not for the sudden trip the CIA director took to Moscow a couple weeks back, that supposedly was to shock them into not doing the stupid things they had planned.


Yesterday 5:54:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
Normally I would agree. If not for the sudden trip the CIA director took to Moscow a couple weeks back, that supposedly was to shock them into not doing the stupid things they had planned.
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Originally Posted By xd341:
Originally Posted By Plutonius:
Who really believes that level of nonsense?

EU level fear mongering and misdirection.
Normally I would agree. If not for the sudden trip the CIA director took to Moscow a couple weeks back, that supposedly was to shock them into not doing the stupid things they had planned.


Just before that happened I had a dream where I asked the Norse god, Odin about what the opening acts by intelligence agencies before WW3 would look like.

He said, “you know, I don’t know.”

But his tone said, “you already know, don’t you?”
Exaggerate the essential, leave the obvious vague.
Yesterday 6:08:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Firearmsenthusiast][Edited] [#34]
We are just about to page 8, has the happening commenced yet or is everybody still standing around with blue balls?
How do you do?
Yesterday 6:15:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Firearmsenthusiast:
We are just about to page 8, has the happening commenced yet or is everybody still standing around with blue balls?
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You talking about using slim jims or something else?
Yesterday 6:25:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:


Just before that happened I had a dream where I asked the Norse god, Odin about what the opening acts by intelligence agencies before WW3 would look like.

He said, "you know, I don't know."

But his tone said, "you already know, don't you?"
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man....my dreams suck  
Yesterday 6:38:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 0311SKI:


Not true.  I learned something new about military aircraft, and that at the end of the world ill probably get domed by a dude carrying a bag of gas, some jack links jerky, and wearing short shorts.
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Originally Posted By GGF:
The only thing that happened in the thread was a shit posting festival.



Not true.  I learned something new about military aircraft, and that at the end of the world ill probably get domed by a dude carrying a bag of gas, some jack links jerky, and wearing short shorts.
Not the worst way to go I guess.
Yesterday 6:43:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By R2point0:
But do the B-2 and B-21 have the same capability? Genuine question. Isn't the B-1B the last low level penetration bomber we have?
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Originally Posted By R2point0:
Originally Posted By xd341:
If it's like other old, many times upgraded platforms, there is probably all manner of wires in the dash that don't do anything anymore.

I've seen stats on wiring in the buff.  It's an impressive mess.


Uncle sugar is rather particular about authorizing the release of crowd pleasers.  There are specific systems required.  It changes and obviously they don't talk about it much but it's not as easy as dropping a JDAM. At least that's my understanding.   And like others have said, she's entering her twilight years.  We have other systems to get that job done.

Nothing as sexy though.  No offense to the Strike guys, and Fat Amy knows she's an Alaska 7.
But do the B-2 and B-21 have the same capability? Genuine question. Isn't the B-1B the last low level penetration bomber we have?


IIRC, they can do penetration missions, but I think most of their mission will include standoff
"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"
Yesterday 6:43:52 PM EDT
[#39]



Yesterday 6:51:59 PM EDT
[#40]
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Originally Posted By Dirtydog:
All I want to know is, when will Turkey and Pakistan gear up for SAs defense. Mecca Agreement

Let them take care of this deer fly.
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has SA asked for their assistance?
"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"
Yesterday 6:52:11 PM EDT
[#41]
So . . . nothing at all going down??
Yesterday 6:59:29 PM EDT
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Is GD creating a run on Slim Jim 100 packs while awaiting DOOOOOM??
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Yesterday 7:04:21 PM EDT
[#43]
https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/iranians-rally-hundreds-thousands-biggest-082500368.html

Iranians rally by the hundreds of thousands in biggest show of defiance since war began

NASSER KARIMI, CARA ANNA and LEE KEATH

Updated Fri, September 18, 2026 at 1:25 AM PDT

3 min read

CAIRO (AP) — Hundreds of thousands of Iranians rallied Friday in a government-organized show of defiance after months of war, pledging their readiness to take up arms in the biggest such demonstration since the United States and Israel attacked in February.

Iran's government has sought to rally the people and stress national unity, even as the economy worsens under a U.S. naval blockade of Iranian ports and new U.S. sanctions. On Friday, it claimed another attack on a tanker in the Strait of Hormuz, a key waterway it has sought to control since the start of the war.

Estimates varied of the number of people volunteering to receive limited military training and defend the country in an effort described as "Janfaday-e Iran," or the "ones who sacrifice their lives for Iran." They marched through downtown Tehran in combat uniform, carrying flags, as onlookers cheered.

Hundreds of thousands in Iran pledge their readiness to take up arms


@0.03 seconds, milled receiver,..However the lever that locks down the gas tube is out of battery.

"limited" military training.

https://en.parapolitika.gr/world/248535/iran-we-will-kill-trump-banner-shocks-world-at-khamenei-funeral/



Yesterday 7:17:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Meat-Hook:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/iranians-rally-hundreds-thousands-biggest-082500368.html

Iranians rally by the hundreds of thousands in biggest show of defiance since war began

NASSER KARIMI, CARA ANNA and LEE KEATH

Updated Fri, September 18, 2026 at 1:25 AM PDT

3 min read

CAIRO (AP) — Hundreds of thousands of Iranians rallied Friday in a government-organized show of defiance after months of war, pledging their readiness to take up arms in the biggest such demonstration since the United States and Israel attacked in February.

Iran's government has sought to rally the people and stress national unity, even as the economy worsens under a U.S. naval blockade of Iranian ports and new U.S. sanctions. On Friday, it claimed another attack on a tanker in the Strait of Hormuz, a key waterway it has sought to control since the start of the war.

Estimates varied of the number of people volunteering to receive limited military training and defend the country in an effort described as "Janfaday-e Iran," or the "ones who sacrifice their lives for Iran." They marched through downtown Tehran in combat uniform, carrying flags, as onlookers cheered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_l1Xtr92RI

@0.03 seconds, milled receiver,..However the lever that locks down the gas tube is out of battery.

"limited" military training.

https://en.parapolitika.gr/world/248535/iran-we-will-kill-trump-banner-shocks-world-at-khamenei-funeral/

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From the AP eh?  Interesting.  

I thought the expectation was the Iranians would rise up and overthrow the current regime.  This seems to be the opposite.  

Latest from the propaganda ministry or actual truth?  

In either case…..something something past due for destructive reduction of civilian infrastructure something
Chief of Special Hutzpah Investigations To Proliferate Obtuse Scientific Theories
Yesterday 7:33:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheAlmightyYak:


From the AP eh?  Interesting.  

I thought the expectation was the Iranians would rise up and overthrow the current regime.  This seems to be the opposite.  

Latest from the propaganda ministry or actual truth?  

In either case…..something something past due for destructive reduction of civilian infrastructure something
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Fairly certain all of the people willing to do that were killed early on. Or, perhaps never existed in the first place.
"Oh no! I know what you want! You coveteth my ice cream bar!"
"If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?"
“When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional.”
Yesterday 7:35:02 PM EDT
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Fairly certain all of the people willing to do that were killed early on. Or, perhaps never existed in the first place.
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Or they watched their friends and family get murdered in the street.  They aren't so eager anymore.
Yesterday 7:35:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:


Just before that happened I had a dream where I asked the Norse god, Odin about what the opening acts by intelligence agencies before WW3 would look like.

He said, "you know, I don't know."

But his tone said, "you already know, don't you?"
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I dream of a halo jump onto a zodiac that takes me to a sub.

I hand the Captain orders to shadow a Russian sub, transmit a fake message to the Kremlin that as a Russian Captain I defect to China and just turned all my launch keys.

Then I order the Captain to launch his nukes at Moscow, Iran and Saudi Arabia.

We pull away, sink the Russian sub and report we were too late to stop the launch.


Yesterday 8:44:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheAlmightyYak:


From the AP eh?  Interesting.  

I thought the expectation was the Iranians would rise up and overthrow the current regime.  This seems to be the opposite.  

Latest from the propaganda ministry or actual truth?  

In either case…..something something past due for destructive reduction of civilian infrastructure something
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If you were born in 1979 or later all you have ever known is an Islamic regime. Dissatisfaction doesn’t equal dissent and dissent doesn’t equal revolt.
Yesterday 9:49:15 PM EDT
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Re: nuclear capable B-1.

One piece of the START treaty was modifying the B-1's external pylon mounts so they could no longer hold ALCMs or ACMs, as well as moving the internal weapons bay bulkhead so the nuclear rotary launcher could no longer be installed.

Moreover, there's a *lot* more to having the ability to unlock, arm, and deliver a nuclear weapon than simply the capability to hang it in a weapons bay, on a launcher, or on a pylon.

Given how much has changed with nuclear weapon safety and surety features since the mid-90s when all of the relevant equipment and wiring was removed from the BONE fleet, it would be a substantial modification program to put it back in even one single airframe.

Don't forget that the START treaty also included boots-on-the-ground inspection of relevant aircraft and facilities by Russian inspectors.
Yesterday 9:59:05 PM EDT
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Given inflation, joining a militia that paid in food rations would explain the population rushing out to join the Iranian armed forces.

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