Milwaukee couple swatted 55 times (Page 2 of 4)
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Originally Posted By Flipp: What difference does that make? Quite a bit actually. If it’s always guns out then there are huge problems there. If the response becomes knocking on the door and making sure things are ok then it shows the response is adopting to the situation. If it’s a case of the former then the lawsuit should have been more. |
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In my younger days, I spent quite a bit of time in Milwaukee. Milwaukeans are dumb fucks, for the most part. Since cops in urban areas tend to be of lower than average intelligence (let's face it, that's what those cities are looking for), that means they are extra retarded. And fat, too. |
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Originally Posted By HammerHammer: From what I’ve seen, the common police viewpoint is “we can’t not respond like this even when we know it’s probably a fake SWATTING call, we have to do it this way every time!” So basically the police are robots, unable to use reason or free will on their own, just willing pawns available for the use and entertainment of whoever wants to make a false 911 report. This has happened to several YouTube personalities over and over and over again. I don’t even know how many times Tim Poole has been swatted now, for example. Originally Posted By HammerHammer: Originally Posted By tangbang: I find this very hard to believe, unless the cops hate these people for some reason and are behind the swatting, maybe hoping they will get a different outcome than the last time? Something is way off with this story. From what I’ve seen, the common police viewpoint is “we can’t not respond like this even when we know it’s probably a fake SWATTING call, we have to do it this way every time!” So basically the police are robots, unable to use reason or free will on their own, just willing pawns available for the use and entertainment of whoever wants to make a false 911 report. This has happened to several YouTube personalities over and over and over again. I don’t even know how many times Tim Poole has been swatted now, for example. Somewhere around the 47th time, SOME cop should have questioned it and went ''hmmm, lets have 2 guys knock on the door politely before going all hut,hut,hut on them like a bunch of brain circuit fried robots.'' |
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Originally Posted By HammerHammer: From what I've seen, the common police viewpoint is "we can't not respond like this even when we know it's probably a fake SWATTING call, we have to do it this way every time!" So basically the police are robots, unable to use reason or free will on their own, just willing pawns available for the use and entertainment of whoever wants to make a false 911 report. This has happened to several YouTube personalities over and over and over again. I don't even know how many times Tim Poole has been swatted now, for example. Originally Posted By HammerHammer: Originally Posted By tangbang: I find this very hard to believe, unless the cops hate these people for some reason and are behind the swatting, maybe hoping they will get a different outcome than the last time? Something is way off with this story. From what I've seen, the common police viewpoint is "we can't not respond like this even when we know it's probably a fake SWATTING call, we have to do it this way every time!" So basically the police are robots, unable to use reason or free will on their own, just willing pawns available for the use and entertainment of whoever wants to make a false 911 report. This has happened to several YouTube personalities over and over and over again. I don't even know how many times Tim Poole has been swatted now, for example. They're just tards without critical thinking skills. Besides, gives them an excuse to play army with their cool toys. |
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Originally Posted By HRoark87: They also got the right address 55 times in a row. It's not all negative. That's looking on the bright side of life. |
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There is a kid right now in the hospital because he got swatted, he calls the cops and tells them what happened, and they shot him anyway. Nearly died and he's sueing them. NOT a victimless crime. Found it: Gamer shot on swatting call |
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Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad: Maybe somebody didn’t like his comedy routine or sci-fi books: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369122/IMG_8781_jpeg-3828786.JPG Or maybe some clients don’t like her writing or editing style?? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369122/IMG_8782_jpeg-3828787.JPG Do they have a young kid(s) who play video games online? That's traditionally been a source of swatting. Sweaty cheeto fingered shit biscuits mad at someone who killed them in an online game. |
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Mumford Law on it: What is swatting, and who pays when police raid the wrong house? A Milwaukee couple was swatted dozens of times. Officers kept coming with rifles and shields, even after one said the call was probably fake. A federal judge found officers violated their Fourth Amendment rights on five separate dates. Not one officer will pay a dime. I break down the case law. Qualified immunity protected every officer because no appeals court had said how many fake 911 calls it takes before police have to stop believing the next one. But under Monell, the claims against the City of Milwaukee survived, and the city settled for $575,000. Then Wichita, Kansas, the most famous swatting gone wrong. Andrew Finch was swatted once, opened his front door, and was shot by police. In Finch v. Rapp the Tenth Circuit denied the officer qualified immunity. Same kind of fake call, opposite result. Plus: is swatting illegal, the punishment for swatting, and the FBI's signs of a fake call. 0:00 Swatted at her own front door 1:41 Who I am 2:21 Niki Robinson and Patrick Tomlinson 3:14 The body camera footage (TMJ4) 5:27 United States v. Richardson: trusting a 911 call 6:38 Case v. Montana (2026): emergency entry 7:33 The lawsuit (TMJ4) 9:29 Why Milwaukee refused to flag the house 10:39 Qualified immunity: why no officer pays 11:51 Monell: why the city was on the hook 12:17 The $575,000 settlement 12:41 Where Milwaukee goes from here (TMJ4) 14:41 FBI warning: signs of a fake call 15:24 Swatting Congress, Torswats and federal sentences 16:40 New swatting laws 17:18 Andrew Finch: killed after a swatting call in Wichita 18:34 Wichita's $5 million settlement (KSN) 23:01 Finch v. Rapp: why Wichita's officer lost immunity 24:13 Why it can happen again 24:33 The fix: swatting policy  Police Knew the Call Was Fake. Why Did They Still Raid the House? Fight for Accountability |
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Originally Posted By fxntime: Somewhere around the 47th time, SOME cop should have questioned it and went ''hmmm, lets have 2 guys knock on the door politely before going all hut,hut,hut on them like a bunch of brain circuit fried robots.'' At that point the command staff needs to be putting their heads together and putting out a directive. You're not going to get the zone officer to unilaterally refuse to respond. |
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Originally Posted By glklvr: In the news report they had a sign on the front door addressed to the police. Couldn't tell what it said. Originally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By CastleBravo91: Yeah, I'd have a lit up sign in the front yard, for SURE!  |
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Originally Posted By akrado: Not a word about looking for the swatters. I searched, MPD never did contact any outside agencies or the feds to stop the swatting and thats part of the reason they settled. MPD chief said we respond to every call and there was nothing to investigate so fuck off. The individual officers also didn't have QI in case of a lawsuit because a judge agreed that they violated the couple's fourth amen rights- another apparent cause of the settlement. Give that state to canada and the eu  They can have Milwaukee and Madison but leave the rest of the state alone. |
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Originally Posted By 1911fan: I'm surprised they settled. They would have won bigly in federal court. And yes, what about the people that called them in 55 times? Investigated? Article doesn't say anything about this. A settlement should mean that the PD knows that their shit was fucked up and will fix the problem. Obviously this is not happening. Time to reset the counter and start collecting evidence for another lawsuit. |
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Originally Posted By Chris_in_TX: A settlement should mean that the PD knows that their shit was fucked up and will fix the problem. Obviously this is not happening. Time to reset the counter and start collecting evidence for another lawsuit. Has the couple continued to have this happen since 2023? |
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Originally Posted By tc556guy: What leads you to believe there's OT Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By dino1: They did, to load up on that sweet OT! What leads you to believe there's OT Milwaukee has OT. There used to be a city ordinanace that no city employee could make more than the mayor. Certain Officers and Detectives got letters saying they would have to work less as their OT put them over the mayor's salary. |
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Originally Posted By tc556guy: At that point the command staff needs to be putting their heads together and putting out a directive. You're not going to get the zone officer to unilaterally refuse to respond. Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By fxntime: Somewhere around the 47th time, SOME cop should have questioned it and went ''hmmm, lets have 2 guys knock on the door politely before going all hut,hut,hut on them like a bunch of brain circuit fried robots.'' At that point the command staff needs to be putting their heads together and putting out a directive. You're not going to get the zone officer to unilaterally refuse to respond. The second almost unilateral QI goes away, cops are going to switch on the thinking part of their brain because they personally are going to be financially liable. Until then, ''hut, hut, hut'' is the name of the game. That doesn't mean the PD itself doesn't have equal liability, they are still the ones hiring retards to pin a badge onto. |
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT: Milwaukee has OT. There used to be a city ordinanace that no city employee could make more than the mayor. Certain Officers and Detectives got letters saying they would have to work less as their OT put them over the mayor's salary. Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT: Milwaukee has OT. There used to be a city ordinanace that no city employee could make more than the mayor. Certain Officers and Detectives got letters saying they would have to work less as their OT put them over the mayor's salary. I'm sure there's OT. Law enforcement in general has a lot of OT because we cant just pack up and clear from a call just because we reach the end of our normal shift. But there's nothing in the story that addresses how many of these calls were handled by people working beyond their normal scheduled shift. The conspiracy theories in this thread about "the officers must have something against the family" or "its about OT" are ridiculous Originally Posted By fxntime: The second almost unilateral QI goes away, cops are going to switch on the thinking part of their brain because they personally are going to be financially liable. Until then, ''hut, hut, hut'' is the name of the game. No, because there's too much liability that way The command staff was aware of the problem They owed their personnel a directive or memo addressing how the agency was going to handle this situation |
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Originally Posted By ceetee: How would it play out, though, if this house has a genuine emergency, and the dispatcher, and responding officers all just said, "Oh, it's probably just another prank call. We'll get there when we get there." Can't speak to MPD, but back in early '19 the same person in the 6th District in New Orleans got swatted* twice in one day, then an attempt on the following day...but on day 2 just a sergeant responded, all was well, and we arranged for the guy's number to be posted up at the front desk. Every time after that the call would be held until the desk officer or the shift supervisor called the guy, who was always fine, so the call was handled as the appropriate false report type. We never did ID the perp, but he or she stopped after a week or so. Presumably the person was able to see the victim's house and realized we weren't playing along and got bored. *Same type of call, but S.O.D. (NOPD'S SWAT unit) never actually responded. |
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The only thing that actually changed anything was us bringing a lawsuit against the city of Milwaukee," Robinson said. They should have started there. It's government, the only thing it's going to respond to is the chance that its power might get taken away. |
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Originally Posted By fxntime: Somewhere around the 47th time, SOME cop should have questioned it and went ''hmmm, lets have 2 guys knock on the door politely before going all hut,hut,hut on them like a bunch of brain circuit fried robots.'' Originally Posted By fxntime: Originally Posted By HammerHammer: Originally Posted By tangbang: I find this very hard to believe, unless the cops hate these people for some reason and are behind the swatting, maybe hoping they will get a different outcome than the last time? Something is way off with this story. From what I’ve seen, the common police viewpoint is “we can’t not respond like this even when we know it’s probably a fake SWATTING call, we have to do it this way every time!” So basically the police are robots, unable to use reason or free will on their own, just willing pawns available for the use and entertainment of whoever wants to make a false 911 report. This has happened to several YouTube personalities over and over and over again. I don’t even know how many times Tim Poole has been swatted now, for example. Somewhere around the 47th time, SOME cop should have questioned it and went ''hmmm, lets have 2 guys knock on the door politely before going all hut,hut,hut on them like a bunch of brain circuit fried robots.'' Why? Were there any negative consequences for them the previous 46 times? |
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Originally Posted By UnluckyDiablo: Found it: Gamer shot on swatting call Came here to say that if these people have had multiple guns pointed at them 55 times, that's literally hundreds of guns pointed at them without getting shot. Which illustrates just how big of a murdering POS Justin Rapp was when he murdered Andrew Finch for answering his door, unarmed, during a 'possible SWATting call'. And how disgusting it is that the only person convicted of a crime is the asshat who made the call. In the story you linked, it was more like the Atatiana Jefferson killing in Ft Worth. Jefferson and Menendez both reached for a lawfully possessed sidearm in their own bedrooms, Jefferson in response to a prowler at her bedroom window in a fenced yard, in a state where you can lawfully shoot people (like Aaron Dean) for criminal mischief under cover of darkness. In Menendez' case, he grabbed a gun after they broke his window to enter his bedroom! Hole-E-Shit! Because they got a call??? |
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Originally Posted By 1Andy2: Why? Were there any negative consequences for them the previous 46 times? Mke generally has a backlog of calls. Call wait times increase and people complain to their aldermen. |
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Originally Posted By David0858: https://www.tmj4.com/about-us/lighthouse/people-have-died-this-way-milwaukee-couple-swatted-55-times-calls-for-policy-change-after-575k-settlement 'People have died this way': Milwaukee couple swatted 55 times calls for policy change after $575K settlement "We begged them to stop. We went so many times. We emailed everybody. We talked to sergeants and lieutenants and everything, and nothing changed," Robinson said. Despite that awareness, officers continued to respond, at times with a full tactical presence. Body camera video shows one officer pointed a gun at the couple's door on their fourth response in a single day. I can't believe this isn't a dupe but I can't find it. These cops have to be retarded.  |
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Originally Posted By fxntime: The second almost unilateral QI goes away, cops are going to switch on the thinking part of their brain because they personally are going to be financially liable. Until then, ''hut, hut, hut'' is the name of the game. That doesn't mean the PD itself doesn't have equal liability, they are still the ones hiring retards to pin a badge onto. Originally Posted By fxntime: Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By fxntime: Somewhere around the 47th time, SOME cop should have questioned it and went ''hmmm, lets have 2 guys knock on the door politely before going all hut,hut,hut on them like a bunch of brain circuit fried robots.'' At that point the command staff needs to be putting their heads together and putting out a directive. You're not going to get the zone officer to unilaterally refuse to respond. The second almost unilateral QI goes away, cops are going to switch on the thinking part of their brain because they personally are going to be financially liable. Until then, ''hut, hut, hut'' is the name of the game. That doesn't mean the PD itself doesn't have equal liability, they are still the ones hiring retards to pin a badge onto. QI doesn't need to go away, it needs to stop being used by police as a crutch when they screw up and needs to be more strictly applied by the courts, but neither of those things has happened, is happening, or is going to happen. |
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Originally Posted By HammerHammer:From what I’ve seen, the common police viewpoint is “we can’t not respond like this even when we know it’s probably a fake SWATTING call, we have to do it this way every time!” So basically the police are robots, unable to use reason or free will on their own, just willing pawns available for the use and entertainment of whoever wants to make a false 911 report. This has happened to several YouTube personalities over and over and over again. I don’t even know how many times Tim Poole has been swatted now, for example. Pretty sure SCOTUS said they don't have to do anything. |
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Originally Posted By glklvr: QI doesn't need to go away, it needs to stop being used by police as a crutch when they screw up and needs to be more strictly applied by the courts, but neither of those things has happened, is happening, or is going to happen. Originally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By fxntime: Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By fxntime: Somewhere around the 47th time, SOME cop should have questioned it and went ''hmmm, lets have 2 guys knock on the door politely before going all hut,hut,hut on them like a bunch of brain circuit fried robots.'' At that point the command staff needs to be putting their heads together and putting out a directive. You're not going to get the zone officer to unilaterally refuse to respond. The second almost unilateral QI goes away, cops are going to switch on the thinking part of their brain because they personally are going to be financially liable. Until then, ''hut, hut, hut'' is the name of the game. That doesn't mean the PD itself doesn't have equal liability, they are still the ones hiring retards to pin a badge onto. QI doesn't need to go away, it needs to stop being used by police as a crutch when they screw up and needs to be more strictly applied by the courts, but neither of those things has happened, is happening, or is going to happen. ''Don't answer the door'' is going to become de rigueur if some departments and cops can't use common sense. And that is when both sides are going to get killed on a regular basis. |
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Originally Posted By Justinandfreyja: 4th response in a day?! Yeah dude, use your brain. "But we have to..." I don't think they're encouraged to think beyond policy. |
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Swatted or 911 hang up.. There is a difference.. After the first couple, a return TX or a quick knock an talk should suffice.. |
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Originally Posted By HRoark87: They also got the right address 55 times in a row. It's not all negative. |
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Originally Posted By UnluckyDiablo: There is a kid right now in the hospital because he got swatted, he calls the cops and tells them what happened, and they shot him anyway. Nearly died and he's sueing them. NOT a victimless crime. Found it: Gamer shot on swatting call Damn, that was hard to read. Unbelievable. |
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Originally Posted By flyhack72: Or maybe they are using burner phones to swat themselves so they get publicity… Originally Posted By flyhack72: Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad: Originally Posted By David0858: https://www.tmj4.com/about-us/lighthouse/people-have-died-this-way-milwaukee-couple-swatted-55-times-calls-for-policy-change-after-575k-settlement ‘People have died this way’: Milwaukee couple swatted 55 times calls for policy change after $575K settlement "We begged them to stop. We went so many times. We emailed everybody. We talked to sergeants and lieutenants and everything, and nothing changed," Robinson said. Despite that awareness, officers continued to respond, at times with a full tactical presence. Body camera video shows one officer pointed a gun at the couple's door on their fourth response in a single day. I can't believe this isn't a dupe but I can't find it. These cops have to be retarded. Maybe somebody didn’t like his comedy routine or sci-fi books: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369122/IMG_8781_jpeg-3828786.JPG Or maybe some clients don’t like her writing or editing style?? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369122/IMG_8782_jpeg-3828787.JPG Or maybe they are using burner phones to swat themselves so they get publicity… Until the swatters do an active investigation for the source of the calls, my money is on a disgruntled group of officers using a burner phone. I love the what if game. |
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Originally Posted By parshooter: Mumford Law on it: What is swatting, and who pays when police raid the wrong house? A Milwaukee couple was swatted dozens of times. Officers kept coming with rifles and shields, even after one said the call was probably fake. A federal judge found officers violated their Fourth Amendment rights on five separate dates. Not one officer will pay a dime. I break down the case law. Qualified immunity protected every officer because no appeals court had said how many fake 911 calls it takes before police have to stop believing the next one. But under Monell, the claims against the City of Milwaukee survived, and the city settled for $575,000. Then Wichita, Kansas, the most famous swatting gone wrong. Andrew Finch was swatted once, opened his front door, and was shot by police. In Finch v. Rapp the Tenth Circuit denied the officer qualified immunity. Same kind of fake call, opposite result. Plus: is swatting illegal, the punishment for swatting, and the FBI's signs of a fake call. 0:00 Swatted at her own front door 1:41 Who I am 2:21 Niki Robinson and Patrick Tomlinson 3:14 The body camera footage (TMJ4) 5:27 United States v. Richardson: trusting a 911 call 6:38 Case v. Montana (2026): emergency entry 7:33 The lawsuit (TMJ4) 9:29 Why Milwaukee refused to flag the house 10:39 Qualified immunity: why no officer pays 11:51 Monell: why the city was on the hook 12:17 The $575,000 settlement 12:41 Where Milwaukee goes from here (TMJ4) 14:41 FBI warning: signs of a fake call 15:24 Swatting Congress, Torswats and federal sentences 16:40 New swatting laws 17:18 Andrew Finch: killed after a swatting call in Wichita 18:34 Wichita's $5 million settlement (KSN) 23:01 Finch v. Rapp: why Wichita's officer lost immunity 24:13 Why it can happen again 24:33 The fix: swatting policy  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88ui-CXtt74After watching that the settlement should have been more and some of the officers should have been suspended/fired/charged (different actions warrant different responses) |
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Originally Posted By glklvr: QI doesn't need to go away, it needs to stop being used by police as a crutch when they screw up and needs to be more strictly applied by the courts, but neither of those things has happened, is happening, or is going to happen. |
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Originally Posted By glklvr: The PD was well aware of what was going on. Officers were dispatched with "known swatting location". Even a city alderman got involved. They still got multiple guns pointed at them every time, hauled out of the house and the house cleared. The PD even put out a memo that the husband was going to be upset and problematic...because they had been there so many times. Oh no, husband is clearly a dangerous malcontent. Must use explosive entry for officer safety! |
