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Yesterday 10:41:58 AM EDT
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Had a Smith 681.  It got shot A LOT.  Frame cracked behind the firing pin bushing, allowing recoil to push the bushing out of the frame to the rear.  Sent it to Smith for repair.  They shipped it back, "too bad, so sad, nothing we can do about it".  A good TIG welder could fix it with a few tack welds.  I buy Ruger revolvers now.
Yesterday 11:34:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By packinheavy:


I'm in the process of buying a .45 ACP 625 Mountain Gun.
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Originally Posted By 03RN:
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I think @O3RN has one…

I have a 625 mountain gun
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One of my most shot and carried guns


I'm in the process of buying a .45 ACP 625 Mountain Gun.

I really hope they come put with new ones. Same with the m22-4. The square butt thunder ranch one is one of my grail guns. Especially if they take the hole out
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Yesterday 11:37:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By grayhairedgrump:
Had a Smith 681.  It got shot A LOT.  Frame cracked behind the firing pin bushing, allowing recoil to push the bushing out of the frame to the rear.  Sent it to Smith for repair.  They shipped it back, "too bad, so sad, nothing we can do about it".  A good TIG welder could fix it with a few tack welds.  I buy Ruger revolvers now.
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Gp100s aren't any stronger than L frames.
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Yesterday 3:18:55 PM EDT
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Or…you could take your time, shop around and find a pre-lock 29-4…
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Yesterday 4:03:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By W_E_G:
I've heard some folks complain about QC issues on the new ones.

Barrel alignment IIRC.
Maybe something to do with alignment of the grip panels too.
I'm sure if you google it, the complaints can be found.

What are they?.... 3 to 4 ounces lighter than same barrel length in standard model?
Othewise its a 29 with catchy logo and some swell grips (if the current-production grips don't have a QC issue).
The taper-barrel is pretty.

I have a four-inch 29-2 (non "Mountain Gun").
If I'm shooting MAGNUM ammo, I'm glad for every ounce it has.
I think the internet has forgotten how much a full-power 44 magnum recoils. And MUZZLE BLAST.

I think the new ones DO NOT have a Hillary Hole.
Some of the older ones don't have a HH either.

A friend of mine bought the first version when they came out in the 80's.
Serious problem with cylinder counter-rotation on recoil when firing full power 44 magnum ammo.
Good feature for working on your flinch.

My 29 is not an EDC - but I won't disrespect it by calling it a "range toy."  
Its  certainly not photogenic by any comparative standard.
I like to run a load that allows me to shoot more than one cylinder before the bones in my forearm start squawking.
The mountain gun grips are Skeeter-Skelton-nostalgic I might have to get a set someday. In the meantime, the ugly pach's help some with recoil.

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Damn! I really like your load labeling technique.  sure beats my hand written scrawl on post it notes.
Yesterday 8:58:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 03RN:

I really hope they come put with new ones. Same with the m22-4. The square butt thunder ranch one is one of my grail guns. Especially if they take the hole out
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Didn’t even know that was an option I thought it was just 44 or 357

45 ACP might be able to handle 45 super tight?  And 45 super would be equivalent to 44 mag?
Yesterday 9:07:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Glock4140:


Didn’t even know that was an option I thought it was just 44 or 357

45 ACP might be able to handle 45 super tight?  And 45 super would be equivalent to 44 mag?
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Originally Posted By Glock4140:
Originally Posted By 03RN:

I really hope they come put with new ones. Same with the m22-4. The square butt thunder ranch one is one of my grail guns. Especially if they take the hole out


Didn’t even know that was an option I thought it was just 44 or 357

45 ACP might be able to handle 45 super tight?  And 45 super would be equivalent to 44 mag?


It can handle .45 super but .45 super is more equivalent to .357/10mm.

I use .45 win mag brass in my .45 colt MG but I keep it to .45 colt levels. 270@1000fps
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Today 8:52:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 03RN:


It can handle .45 super but .45 super is more equivalent to .357/10mm.

I use .45 win mag brass in my .45 colt MG but I keep it to .45 colt levels. 270@1000fps
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So you can shoot 45 ACP or 45 super in a 45 colt?
Today 10:31:53 AM EDT
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Damn! I really like your load labeling technique.  sure beats my hand written scrawl on post it notes.
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I’m getting old. Been sick for a good spell. No cures. I’m getting near the point I gotta give away a whole lot of ammo. I hope my attention to detail in labeling is such that the recipient will have confidence that the ammo is safe.

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Today 10:37:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Glock4140:


So you can shoot 45 ACP or 45 super in a 45 colt?
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If you cut the cylinder for rimless ammo, the cylinder can take 45ACP pressure with moon clips.

Your best bet if you want to shoot 45ACP load data in a revolver is to skip the modifications and moons. just buy a some 45 auto-rim brass. STARLINE sells it.  You can buy a lot of auto-rim brass for the money you would spend on modifying the Long Colt cylinder.

45 SUPER isn’t that super. I suspect it will work fine at “super” pressures in a modern 45 Long Colt cylinder cut for moons.

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Today 12:26:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By W_E_G:


If you cut the cylinder for rimless ammo, the cylinder can take 45ACP pressure with moon clips.

Your best bet if you want to shoot 45ACP load data in a revolver is to skip the modifications and moons. just buy a some 45 auto-rim brass. STARLINE sells it.  You can buy a lot of auto-rim brass for the money you would spend on modifying the Long Colt cylinder.

45 SUPER isn’t that super. I suspect it will work fine at “super” pressures in a modern 45 Long Colt cylinder cut for moons.

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Originally Posted By W_E_G:
Originally Posted By Glock4140:


So you can shoot 45 ACP or 45 super in a 45 colt?


If you cut the cylinder for rimless ammo, the cylinder can take 45ACP pressure with moon clips.

Your best bet if you want to shoot 45ACP load data in a revolver is to skip the modifications and moons. just buy a some 45 auto-rim brass. STARLINE sells it.  You can buy a lot of auto-rim brass for the money you would spend on modifying the Long Colt cylinder.

45 SUPER isn’t that super. I suspect it will work fine at “super” pressures in a modern 45 Long Colt cylinder cut for moons.



It doesn't really make sense to use auto rim brass in the .45 colt. You'll lose 1-200fps vs an acp chamber due to the dimensions.

I use win mag brass
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Today 1:45:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 03RN:

Gp100s aren't any stronger than L frames.
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Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By grayhairedgrump:
Had a Smith 681.  It got shot A LOT.  Frame cracked behind the firing pin bushing, allowing recoil to push the bushing out of the frame to the rear.  Sent it to Smith for repair.  They shipped it back, "too bad, so sad, nothing we can do about it".  A good TIG welder could fix it with a few tack welds.  I buy Ruger revolvers now.

Gp100s aren't any stronger than L frames.

But Ruger would probably repair or replace a cracked GP100 frame.
Today 2:56:20 PM EDT
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Moonclips rock
I need like a Deerfield carbine in .45 win mag
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Today 2:57:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By curiomatic:

But Ruger would probably repair or replace a cracked GP100 frame.
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Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By grayhairedgrump:
Had a Smith 681.  It got shot A LOT.  Frame cracked behind the firing pin bushing, allowing recoil to push the bushing out of the frame to the rear.  Sent it to Smith for repair.  They shipped it back, "too bad, so sad, nothing we can do about it".  A good TIG welder could fix it with a few tack welds.  I buy Ruger revolvers now.

Gp100s aren't any stronger than L frames.

But Ruger would probably repair or replace a cracked GP100 frame.

Yeah but then you're still stuck with a clunky gun
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Today 2:59:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 03RN:

Yeah but then you're still stuck with a clunky gun
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Ruger double actions look like they've been pre-digested and barfed up into the box.

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