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9/14/2026 11:24:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Krater:


Hey, for that all you need is for Ukraine to stop bombing Russian refineries.  It's totally that, and has nothing to do with war with Iran.
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Hey, for that all you need is for Ukraine to stop bombing Russian refineries.  It's totally that, and has nothing to do with war with Iran.


That’s a lie.

Trump promised he’d end that war the first week in office.
9/14/2026 11:25:53 AM EDT
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Liberals are delusional a-holes.
9/14/2026 11:41:09 AM EDT
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I've decided I'm just going to vote for whoever promises me the biggest checks going forward.  No checks?  I'll write myself in since I'd definitely give myself a check.
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9/14/2026 11:42:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MeatGrinder:
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Seems Conservatives have joined that insanity.

Both have lost their ways
9/14/2026 11:45:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Network_Daddy:
I've decided I'm just going to vote for whoever promises me the biggest checks going forward.  No checks?  I'll write myself in since I'd definitely give myself a check.
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I have principles. I would NOT write myself a check!!!


... I'd use direct deposit.

9/14/2026 11:52:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SWIRE:
I didn't think he was the golden child to fix everything but I had high hopes that as an outsider who was screwed over by the establishment and status quo that he would be able to change things.  That effort lasted about 6 months this time around and now he is the newest member of the establishment and swamp.  

If an outsider with Trump's ego, connections and resources can't change things...then the idea that any politician will change how DC operates is a complete lie/fantasy.  Remember that as the campaign season kicks off and your local politicians claim "I will change XYZ..." it is a lie.  

The public is simply puppets manipulated by the politicians.  The politicians are puppets manipulated/controlled by the wealthy elites and they control both sides.  But the only way to get any type of voice is to go along and play their game where 99.9% of the time you don't matter.
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I think after being put through the ringer from 2016-2024 with peach mints, investigations, prosecutions, getting shot, etc; and then seeing Biden (and politicians in general) get away with all sorts of corruption to enrich their families, 2025 Trump has an attitude more like "what can America do for me".
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9/14/2026 11:56:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Extorris:

That's what the candidates here that were endorsed by him in '22 thought and almost every one of them lost.
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What is the Republican candidate running on?  The fuck if I know?  I didn't even remember his name until I looked it up.  He has done a shit job campaigning.  The biggest part of his website is "SEND ME MONEY".   Then it rambles about healthcare.

Let me guess, did he promise they're going to "Repeal and replace Obamacare"?
ETA: I just looked at the website for the R here running for Senate. He doesn't have anything on his site about the issues. 52 days until the election and his site shows zero campaign events scheduled.
It's like the GOP has never been in a midterm before.  Are they just delusional and think Trump will carry them?

That's what the candidates here that were endorsed by him in '22 thought and almost every one of them lost.
GA is starting to shift purple.  My brother and his wife, solid Christian conservative business owners north of Atlanta, are stating that.  Were those 2 grifters still around telling people not to vote in GA in 2022 or did they disappear by then?

Close races, like the US House seat for my district, are going to be heavily impacted by the negative public sentiment.  Consumer Sentiment, as put out the by the Univ of Michigan, in Nov 2024 was 71.8 and as of Aug 2026 it dropped to 51.7.   Preliminary data for Sept is 47.8, showing it continues to decline.  Areas shifting purple have been given no reason to turn back to red.
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9/14/2026 11:58:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
I think after being put through the ringer from 2016-2024 with peach mints, investigations, prosecutions, getting shot, etc; and then seeing Biden (and politicians in general) get away with all sorts of corruption to enrich their families, 2025 Trump has an attitude more like "what can America do for me".
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Then he should have never run for a second term
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9/14/2026 12:05:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
I think after being put through the ringer from 2016-2024 with peach mints, investigations, prosecutions, getting shot, etc; and then seeing Biden (and politicians in general) get away with all sorts of corruption to enrich their families, 2025 Trump has an attitude more like "what can America do for me".
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Originally Posted By SWIRE:
I didn't think he was the golden child to fix everything but I had high hopes that as an outsider who was screwed over by the establishment and status quo that he would be able to change things.  That effort lasted about 6 months this time around and now he is the newest member of the establishment and swamp.  

If an outsider with Trump's ego, connections and resources can't change things...then the idea that any politician will change how DC operates is a complete lie/fantasy.  Remember that as the campaign season kicks off and your local politicians claim "I will change XYZ..." it is a lie.  

The public is simply puppets manipulated by the politicians.  The politicians are puppets manipulated/controlled by the wealthy elites and they control both sides.  But the only way to get any type of voice is to go along and play their game where 99.9% of the time you don't matter.
I think after being put through the ringer from 2016-2024 with peach mints, investigations, prosecutions, getting shot, etc; and then seeing Biden (and politicians in general) get away with all sorts of corruption to enrich their families, 2025 Trump has an attitude more like "what can America do for me".
I agree.  He did come out strong in 2025 though and destroyed some of the biggest establishment funded sources that had worked against him.  His first term I remember him staying as far away from earning money as possible, because it was the right thing to do.  Then like you said he was still treated poorly, raked over the coals, accused of corruption and making money...etc.  

Then Biden's come in and were openly corrupt and nothing happened.  Trump learned from that.  His first term there were reports that his net worth declined something like $3 billion dollars.  This time you have meme coins, sneakers, bears, and all sorts of other things.  HIs net worth has already increased by 2-3 billion according to what is reported.  

I just wish he would finish the things he campaigned on.  If he could do that then I don't care what he personally gains from it.  If doesn't do any of those things, I certainly do not want to hear him whining about the Democrat controlled Congress...because they will be there due to his lack of achieving the things he promised.
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9/14/2026 12:24:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SWIRE:
Close races, like the US House seat for my district, are going to be heavily impacted by the negative public sentiment.  Consumer Sentiment, as put out the by the Univ of Michigan, in Nov 2024 was 71.8 and as of Aug 2026 it dropped to 51.7.   Preliminary data for Sept is 47.8, showing it continues to decline.  Areas shifting purple have been given no reason to turn back to red.
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There is a real possibility here in Ohio we ending up getting basically Mrs. Fauci as our governor, and elect a dem for US Senate, in a state Trump won by 11pts 2 years ago.
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9/14/2026 12:30:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SWIRE:


Then Biden's come in and were openly corrupt and nothing happened.  Trump learned from that.  His first term there were reports that his net worth declined something like $3 billion dollars.  This time you have meme coins, sneakers, bears, and all sorts of other things.  HIs net worth has already increased by 2-3 billion according to what is reported.  

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I dont see that as a good thing
Hawking all sorts of things for personal gain based on being the President shouldn't be a thing
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9/14/2026 12:33:47 PM EDT
[#12]
I’m done voting for the rest of my life. This is all so pointless.
9/14/2026 12:40:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Extorris:

That's what the candidates here that were endorsed by him in '22 thought and almost every one of them lost.
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What is the Republican candidate running on?  The fuck if I know?  I didn't even remember his name until I looked it up.  He has done a shit job campaigning.  The biggest part of his website is "SEND ME MONEY".   Then it rambles about healthcare.

Let me guess, did he promise they're going to "Repeal and replace Obamacare"?
ETA: I just looked at the website for the R here running for Senate. He doesn't have anything on his site about the issues. 52 days until the election and his site shows zero campaign events scheduled.
It's like the GOP has never been in a midterm before.  Are they just delusional and think Trump will carry them?

That's what the candidates here that were endorsed by him in '22 thought and almost every one of them lost.

I suspect the smart ones that are toeing the line are scared to cross Trump and the not so smart ones believe that. The result is the same either way.
9/14/2026 12:46:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SWIRE:
I agree.  He did come out strong in 2025 though and destroyed some of the biggest establishment funded sources that had worked against him.  His first term I remember him staying as far away from earning money as possible, because it was the right thing to do.  Then like you said he was still treated poorly, raked over the coals, accused of corruption and making money...etc.  

Then Biden's come in and were openly corrupt and nothing happened.  Trump learned from that.  His first term there were reports that his net worth declined something like $3 billion dollars.  This time you have meme coins, sneakers, bears, and all sorts of other things.  HIs net worth has already increased by 2-3 billion according to what is reported.  

I just wish he would finish the things he campaigned on.  If he could do that then I don't care what he personally gains from it.  If doesn't do any of those things, I certainly do not want to hear him whining about the Democrat controlled Congress...because they will be there due to his lack of achieving the things he promised.
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Yea, it certainly hasn't been all bad, but I don't think 2025 was anywhere as close to as strong as his first 3 years of Trump 1.0 was. Good the porous border has been reigned in, and good that USAID was gutted, and yay we got some NFA taxes down to $0 at the expense of the OBBB.

Kushner and Witkoff's involvements seem shady as hell being one is in private equity and one is in real estate. Just a lot of stink around such quick net worth increase. I totally understand why he might have the attitude "time for me to get mine", but I don't like it.  Like you said in the post I first responded too, he's the newest member of the establishment.

Back on the 5,000; saddest part about this isn't the idea, but the fact no one around him was able to say/convince him this was a totally asinine idea to not only say at the convention, but to keep parroting it.
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9/14/2026 12:53:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JaredC1:


That’s a lie.

Trump promised he’d end that war the first week in office.
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Hey, for that all you need is for Ukraine to stop bombing Russian refineries.  It's totally that, and has nothing to do with war with Iran.


That’s a lie.

Trump promised he’d end that war the first week in office.


He believed he could give Ukraine to Putin and that would be the end of the war.
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9/14/2026 12:58:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:

I dont see that as a good thing
Hawking all sorts of things for personal gain based on being the President shouldn't be a thing
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Originally Posted By SWIRE:


Then Biden's come in and were openly corrupt and nothing happened.  Trump learned from that.  His first term there were reports that his net worth declined something like $3 billion dollars.  This time you have meme coins, sneakers, bears, and all sorts of other things.  HIs net worth has already increased by 2-3 billion according to what is reported.  


I dont see that as a good thing
Hawking all sorts of things for personal gain based on being the President shouldn't be a thing
I wasn't suggesting it was a good thing.  Trump 1.0 tried to do the right thing and still raked over the coals.  Now he seems have said "fuck it".  I get the sentiment but it is bad for America.

I've adopted a similar approach.  Trump was the wealthy outside who couldn't be bought and was supposed to change things.  "they" got to him and broke him as well.  Massie was the only US Rep saying "We need to reign in spending" and got ousted because of it.  I've campaigned for politicians, donated to politicians but now my sentiment is also "fuck it".  The people are treated as puppets and I've got better (selfish) things to do with my time and money.   That's not good for the country either.  

I'm not saying Trump is the problem, he's just another casualty of the political system we have.  The wealthy elites control the senior level politicians of both parties, including Trump now.  Politics works from the top down and there is no way the little guy can work their way into the system and then up the chain without being compromised or ignored.  

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9/14/2026 12:59:42 PM EDT
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it seems our president is also.
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9/14/2026 1:00:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stone-age:


He believed he could give Ukraine to Putin and that would be the end of the war.
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Make Diesel $3.50 Again


Hey, for that all you need is for Ukraine to stop bombing Russian refineries.  It's totally that, and has nothing to do with war with Iran.


That’s a lie.

Trump promised he’d end that war the first week in office.


He believed he could give Ukraine to Putin and that would be the end of the war.



Turns out convincing people to disarm and be genocided is a little harder than he expected
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9/14/2026 1:01:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Spyider:
I'm done voting for the rest of my life. This is all so pointless.
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I get that sentiment as our voices do not matter 99.9% of the time...BUT it can always be worse.  This sentiment comes around often.  You've been here long enough to know that people didn't vote for John McCain they voted against Obama.  We didn't vote "for Mitt Romney" we voted "against Obama".  

Because it can always be worse, I will still vote.  Just don't expect me to donate time or money to anyone ever again.
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9/14/2026 1:15:19 PM EDT
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Turns out convincing people to disarm and be genocided is a little harder than he expected
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Originally Posted By Krater:
Originally Posted By Glockman4:


Make Diesel $3.50 Again


Hey, for that all you need is for Ukraine to stop bombing Russian refineries.  It's totally that, and has nothing to do with war with Iran.


That’s a lie.

Trump promised he’d end that war the first week in office.


He believed he could give Ukraine to Putin and that would be the end of the war.



Turns out convincing people to disarm and be genocided is a little harder than he expected

He could’ve easily stopped the war by pulling all support. He didn’t really want to or didn’t want to expend the political capital to make it happen. You guys always fall for this rhetoric when Trump has done nothing but actually support Ukraine.
9/14/2026 1:15:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SWIRE:
I get that sentiment as our voices do not matter 99.9% of the time...BUT it can always be worse.  This sentiment comes around often.  You've been here long enough to know that people didn't vote for John McCain they voted against Obama.  We didn't vote "for Mitt Romney" we voted "against Obama".  

Because it can always be worse, I will still vote.  Just don't expect me to donate time or money to anyone ever again.
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I agree.   Except I'm ready for it to be painful enough that people are really ready for a change.  We have an entire generation on here. Well, it's dependent on x soros buddy scott bessent to make sure that their retirement savings always goes up and up and up.  No matter anything else, no matter what b*******, they tell you about responsibility. No matter what they say about people on welfare, that's what they're voting for their own personal welfare. At this point.
9/14/2026 1:16:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SWIRE:
I get that sentiment as our voices do not matter 99.9% of the time...BUT it can always be worse.  This sentiment comes around often.  You've been here long enough to know that people didn't vote for John McCain they voted against Obama.  We didn't vote "for Mitt Romney" we voted "against Obama".  

Because it can always be worse, I will still vote.  Just don't expect me to donate time or money to anyone ever again.
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I'm done voting for the rest of my life. This is all so pointless.
I get that sentiment as our voices do not matter 99.9% of the time...BUT it can always be worse.  This sentiment comes around often.  You've been here long enough to know that people didn't vote for John McCain they voted against Obama.  We didn't vote "for Mitt Romney" we voted "against Obama".  

Because it can always be worse, I will still vote.  Just don't expect me to donate time or money to anyone ever again.


People really need to consider what their life will be like under a government under complete control of democrats. Their behavior is going to be a lot different if they believe they have absolute power. They will change the supreme court to put a stop to the second amendment forever.  I'm not exaggerating. They will amend the second amendment to take away individual rights to own guns. I mean, if anybody actually cares about the 2A in America.
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9/14/2026 1:19:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NN300BLK:

I think the country is in deep sh*t financially, but I don’t all is lost. The GOP is going to have to move past the Trump GOP, do some soul searching, and actually figure out how to win and govern without copying the Democrat playbook from ten years ago. I think it’s time to accept this second Trump term will likely be a disappointment and hope for a better candidate next time and that Trump will step away from politics and enjoy retirement like Bush.
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Unfortunately I don't think thats going to happen. The Trump family realized there is a lot more money to be made in politics than real estate. That family will stick around like Herpes. The only way to move on is to make sure whoever trump's "MAGA" candidate is in 2028 loses bigly.

Sadly I think its just as likely to see someone like Don Jr. take over as head of the RNC. The core of MAGA got seriously brain damaged by social media, look at them still defending this shit. And the cowards in congress are still terrified of Trump, worried they'll get the Massie treatment if they speak out against dear leader's policies. Maybe as the boomers age out things will change. Who knows...
9/14/2026 1:21:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
There is a real possibility here in Ohio we ending up getting basically Mrs. Fauci as our governor, and elect a dem for US Senate, in a state Trump won by 11pts 2 years ago.
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No shit, is that legit? Fauci's wife is running for governor?
9/14/2026 1:26:29 PM EDT
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Unfortunately I don't think thats going to happen. The Trump family realized there is a lot more money to be made in politics than real estate. That family will stick around like Herpes. The only way to move on is to make sure whoever trump's "MAGA" candidate is in 2028 loses bigly.

Sadly I think its just as likely to see someone like Don Jr. take over as head of the RNC. The core of MAGA got seriously brain damaged by social media, look at them still defending this shit. And the cowards in congress are still terrified of Trump, worried they'll get the Massie treatment if they speak out against dear leader's policies. Maybe as the boomers age out things will change. Who knows...
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I think the country is in deep sh*t financially, but I don’t all is lost. The GOP is going to have to move past the Trump GOP, do some soul searching, and actually figure out how to win and govern without copying the Democrat playbook from ten years ago. I think it’s time to accept this second Trump term will likely be a disappointment and hope for a better candidate next time and that Trump will step away from politics and enjoy retirement like Bush.


Unfortunately I don't think thats going to happen. The Trump family realized there is a lot more money to be made in politics than real estate. That family will stick around like Herpes. The only way to move on is to make sure whoever trump's "MAGA" candidate is in 2028 loses bigly.

Sadly I think its just as likely to see someone like Don Jr. take over as head of the RNC. The core of MAGA got seriously brain damaged by social media, look at them still defending this shit. And the cowards in congress are still terrified of Trump, worried they'll get the Massie treatment if they speak out against dear leader's policies. Maybe as the boomers age out things will change. Who knows...

A lot will change when the boomers are no longer relevant.  The whole system is basically just boomer life support at this point.
9/14/2026 1:27:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
There is a real possibility here in Ohio we ending up getting basically Mrs. Fauci as our governor, and elect a dem for US Senate, in a state Trump won by 11pts 2 years ago.
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I feel bad for Ohio, but I sincerely hope Vivek loses. I want republican politicians to get the message that supporting legal work immigration like H1B is a losing issue. And hes a literal scammer who has no business holding office. Fuck Vivek. Ohioans should have made better choices during the primary
9/14/2026 1:34:01 PM EDT
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I agree.   Except I'm ready for it to be painful enough that people are really ready for a change.  We have an entire generation on here. Well, it's dependent on x soros buddy scott bessent to make sure that their retirement savings always goes up and up and up.  No matter anything else, no matter what b*******, they tell you about responsibility. No matter what they say about people on welfare, that's what they're voting for their own personal welfare. At this point.
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Originally Posted By SWIRE:
I get that sentiment as our voices do not matter 99.9% of the time...BUT it can always be worse.  This sentiment comes around often.  You've been here long enough to know that people didn't vote for John McCain they voted against Obama.  We didn't vote "for Mitt Romney" we voted "against Obama".  

Because it can always be worse, I will still vote.  Just don't expect me to donate time or money to anyone ever again.



I agree.   Except I'm ready for it to be painful enough that people are really ready for a change.  We have an entire generation on here. Well, it's dependent on x soros buddy scott bessent to make sure that their retirement savings always goes up and up and up.  No matter anything else, no matter what b*******, they tell you about responsibility. No matter what they say about people on welfare, that's what they're voting for their own personal welfare. At this point.
Making it painful was tried in 2006, very similar scenario then.  Republican Congress spent like drunken sailors but didn't help the people. Republicans stayed home, they didn't vote D.  The sitting Republicans got booted and the Dems took over.  That set the stage for Obamacare once Obama got in.  That's why it can always be worse, in the short term at least.  Right now the short term for gun owners is awesome and short term for the Dems is hell.  That will flip eventually and we will be miserable again.

Here is the problem with "sending a message".  All politicians below the senior level are also puppets.  Politics work from the top down.  People like Mitch McConnell have appointed people to every branch and layer of the US government.  He has influence over what they do or don't do or who they support.  Mitch himself answers to the wealthy elites who fund all the super pacs he controls.  Mitch gave money and positions to people the elites wanted.  Voting out the little guy in Congress does not change the top structure or influence of the political system.  Nothing changes overall, in the short term one agenda gets promoted more/faster.

Then in 2008 I remember people here saying "let it burn" after the FSA elected Obama and expected him to put gas in their cars.
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9/14/2026 1:36:09 PM EDT
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Hey, for that all you need is for Ukraine to stop bombing Russian refineries.  It's totally that, and has nothing to do with war with Iran.


That’s a lie.

Trump promised he’d end that war the first week in office.


He believed he could give Ukraine to Putin and that would be the end of the war.

That was a stupid assumption
What gave him the idea that he should have any authority over another sovereign nation
Oh wait he's been playing that game this entire term
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9/14/2026 1:42:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:

A lot will change when the boomers are no longer relevant.  The whole system is basically just boomer life support at this point.
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The nation will be in real trouble at that point. Entire generations with no work ethic, raised to believe they're all victims. Half of them won't be able to read . Just as many will be on pills or street drugs and booze.
The end of the Boomers will be like the end of the Roman empire. Enjoy your Dark Ages
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9/14/2026 1:45:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:

The nation will be in real trouble at that point. Entire generations with no work ethic, raised to believe they're all victims. Half of them won't be able to read . Just as many will be on pills or street drugs and booze.
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The end of boomers is the end of Israel. That’s about it
9/14/2026 1:48:12 PM EDT
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16 pages on a lousy $5,000 check.
9/14/2026 1:49:07 PM EDT
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The end of boomers is the end of Israel. That’s about it
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That's not a thing that should be celebrated
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9/14/2026 1:50:09 PM EDT
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That's not a thing that should be celebrated
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They can lift themselves up by their boot straps like our grand parents did
9/14/2026 1:50:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:

The nation will be in real trouble at that point. Entire generations with no work ethic, raised to believe they're all victims. Half of them won't be able to read . Just as many will be on pills or street drugs and booze.
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:

A lot will change when the boomers are no longer relevant.  The whole system is basically just boomer life support at this point.

The nation will be in real trouble at that point. Entire generations with no work ethic, raised to believe they're all victims. Half of them won't be able to read . Just as many will be on pills or street drugs and booze.
The end of the Boomers will be like the end of the Roman empire. Enjoy your Dark Ages

Yes the boomer legacy will haunt us for a long time. I don’t like to get into generational warfare because the boomers didn’t design the post WW2 system, their parents and grandparents did, but they sure took that mistake and ran with it, enabled it, and expanded it to crazy levels. Hopefully, the establishment dies with them or we can hope at least.
9/14/2026 1:51:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NathanDrake:

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More like they'd be overrun without our help
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9/14/2026 1:53:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:

Yes the boomer legacy will haunt us for a long time. I don’t like to get into generational warfare because the boomers didn’t design the post WW2 system, their parents and grandparents did, but they sure took that mistake and ran with it, enabled it, and expanded it to crazy levels. Hopefully, the establishment dies with them or we can hope at least.
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You didn't seem to understand my post
The end of Boomers will be the end of the USA. Because a good part of the younger generations don't have what it takes to keep a nation going.
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9/14/2026 1:57:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By scrolledandtabbed:
This is some banana republic bullshit. Buying votes. Get the fuck out of here.
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Never ask a man if he is from Virginia. If he is, he'll tell you. If he isn't, you don't want to embarrass him.
9/14/2026 1:59:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:

You didn't seem to understand my post
The end of Boomers will be the end of the USA. Because a good part of the younger generations don't have what it takes to keep a nation going.
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:
Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:

Yes the boomer legacy will haunt us for a long time. I don’t like to get into generational warfare because the boomers didn’t design the post WW2 system, their parents and grandparents did, but they sure took that mistake and ran with it, enabled it, and expanded it to crazy levels. Hopefully, the establishment dies with them or we can hope at least.

You didn't seem to understand my post
The end of Boomers will be the end of the USA. Because a good part of the younger generations don't have what it takes to keep a nation going.

Oh no I got it, I just don’t agree with it and the responsibility for those failures mostly belongs to the system and cultural landscape that the boomers have championed. The light is the glimmer of independent thought we see in many young men and the impending death of mainstream establishment media, not a trait I’d ever ascribe to the boomers generally speaking.
9/14/2026 2:03:23 PM EDT
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Making it painful was tried in 2006, very similar scenario then.  Republican Congress spent like drunken sailors but didn't help the people. Republicans stayed home, they didn't vote D.  The sitting Republicans got booted and the Dems took over.  That set the stage for Obamacare once Obama got in.  That's why it can always be worse, in the short term at least.  Right now the short term for gun owners is awesome and short term for the Dems is hell.  That will flip eventually and we will be miserable again.

Here is the problem with "sending a message".  All politicians below the senior level are also puppets.  Politics work from the top down.  People like Mitch McConnell have appointed people to every branch and layer of the US government.  He has influence over what they do or don't do or who they support.  Mitch himself answers to the wealthy elites who fund all the super pacs he controls.  Mitch gave money and positions to people the elites wanted.  Voting out the little guy in Congress does not change the top structure or influence of the political system.  Nothing changes overall, in the short term one agenda gets promoted more/faster.

Then in 2008 I remember people here saying "let it burn" after the FSA elected Obama and expected him to put gas in their cars.
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I get that sentiment as our voices do not matter 99.9% of the time...BUT it can always be worse.  This sentiment comes around often.  You've been here long enough to know that people didn't vote for John McCain they voted against Obama.  We didn't vote "for Mitt Romney" we voted "against Obama".  

Because it can always be worse, I will still vote.  Just don't expect me to donate time or money to anyone ever again.



I agree.   Except I'm ready for it to be painful enough that people are really ready for a change.  We have an entire generation on here. Well, it's dependent on x soros buddy scott bessent to make sure that their retirement savings always goes up and up and up.  No matter anything else, no matter what b*******, they tell you about responsibility. No matter what they say about people on welfare, that's what they're voting for their own personal welfare. At this point.
Making it painful was tried in 2006, very similar scenario then.  Republican Congress spent like drunken sailors but didn't help the people. Republicans stayed home, they didn't vote D.  The sitting Republicans got booted and the Dems took over.  That set the stage for Obamacare once Obama got in.  That's why it can always be worse, in the short term at least.  Right now the short term for gun owners is awesome and short term for the Dems is hell.  That will flip eventually and we will be miserable again.

Here is the problem with "sending a message".  All politicians below the senior level are also puppets.  Politics work from the top down.  People like Mitch McConnell have appointed people to every branch and layer of the US government.  He has influence over what they do or don't do or who they support.  Mitch himself answers to the wealthy elites who fund all the super pacs he controls.  Mitch gave money and positions to people the elites wanted.  Voting out the little guy in Congress does not change the top structure or influence of the political system.  Nothing changes overall, in the short term one agenda gets promoted more/faster.

Then in 2008 I remember people here saying "let it burn" after the FSA elected Obama and expected him to put gas in their cars.

I don’t know… without Clinton Newt Gingrich would never have become speaker and the fiscal conservatives wouldn’t have taken center stage. Without Obama there would have been no tea party and no MAGA 1.0 (Trump’s first term). Elections have consequences and if we don’t vote out the incompetent politicians in our primaries, the only way to vote them out is the general. I’m not proposing staying home or voting for Democrats— I personally will be voting for the conservative candidate in every race (I’ll probably vote for the IAP candidate in my safe R house race), but I can completely understand and defend the logic of short term loss of seats to correct course in the long run. MAGA 2.0 has proven to have no guard rails in terms of principled conservatism and we may need to lose an election to get back to fiscal sanity, respect for the constitution, and see the GOP move away from these ruinous policies making life hard for the average American.
9/14/2026 2:06:56 PM EDT
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No shit, is that legit? Fauci's wife is running for governor?
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Dr Amy Acton. Dem who worked under a rino governor that shut down Ohio during Covid.

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I feel bad for Ohio, but I sincerely hope Vivek loses. I want republican politicians to get the message that supporting legal work immigration like H1B is a losing issue. And hes a literal scammer who has no business holding office. Fuck Vivek. Ohioans should have made better choices during the primary
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Vivek was shoved down our throats by Ohio GOP (probably bankrolled by MAGA.inc)

Same as the 2024 presidential primaries with Trump, these primaries were largely a formality as the candidate was already chosen for us. I haven't talked to anyone excited to vote for him. They will, but aren't excited.
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9/14/2026 2:15:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:

You didn't seem to understand my post
The end of Boomers will be the end of the USA. Because a good part of the younger generations don't have what it takes to keep a nation going.
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A lot in the younger generation dont see a country worth saving. They saw their futures sold out from under them so a few people could profit. Many legacy americans feel like second class citizens in their own country because they were replaced for cheap imported labor or saw themselves screwed by DEI.

9/14/2026 2:19:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By scrolledandtabbed:
This is some banana republic bullshit. Buying votes. Get the fuck out of here.
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This is what we want.
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9/14/2026 2:22:51 PM EDT
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A lot in the younger generation dont see a country worth saving. They saw their futures sold out from under them so a few people could profit. Many legacy americans feel like second class citizens in their own country because they were replaced for cheap imported labor or saw themselves screwed by DEI.

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I guess they'll enjoy having another nations boot on their necks then. Pretty easy to take stuff for granted until they don't have it anymore
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9/14/2026 2:23:16 PM EDT
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OH HELL YEAH!! A bidding war for the purchase of my vote! Your move president trump.
And I want my pay off to be in CASH at the polling station after I vote. CASH.
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9/14/2026 2:27:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:

I guess they'll enjoy having another nations boot on their necks then. Pretty easy to take stuff for granted until they don't have it anymore
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A lot in the younger generation dont see a country worth saving. They saw their futures sold out from under them so a few people could profit. Many legacy americans feel like second class citizens in their own country because they were replaced for cheap imported labor or saw themselves screwed by DEI.

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I guess they'll enjoy having another nations boot on their necks then. Pretty easy to take stuff for granted until they don't have it anymore


They are pretty sure that is their future as Americans either way. Like Russia, basically.
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9/14/2026 2:34:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
Yea, it certainly hasn't been all bad, but I don't think 2025 was anywhere as close to as strong as his first 3 years of Trump 1.0 was. Good the porous border has been reigned in, and good that USAID was gutted, and yay we got some NFA taxes down to $0 at the expense of the OBBB.
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First, i love how you attempt to minimize THE most critical things damaging our republic at the moment.

Those the items- uncontrolled illegal immigration, tax fraud on a massive scale that is literally funding the liberal opposition, illegal aliens and every lgbtbbq gas light operation you can think of, and then the biggest positive 2a shift america has seen since before Reagan.

I can sympathize a lot with the perfectionists who wish for somebody better, but i absolutely cant abide by the person who takes those absolutely critical policy advancements and minimizes them to inconsequential talking points.

Look, i get you dont like his deals, and gas prices are basically your bumpstonk 2.0. He should done this and that to Iran. You (still) dont like his tweets. Omg $5000.

Fine. But none of that will kill the country. The shit youre minimizing will. Liberals getting access to unlimited tax payer money will kill this country. Unrestrained immigration will kill this country. Shitting on the second amendment will make us Spain II.

And the part of this y'all really really need to get through your heads is you need a Trump- however distasteful it may be -before you can get somebody better. No. You dont have to like trump. At all. But look past your goddamn nose and realize the long view. Great, shit on trump. Dont present a unified front.

Im sure those boarders will remain super closed under the next liberal shithead. Im sure billions worth of liberal social programs wont be funneled into their warchest. Surely they will prioritize 2a rights just as they have all a long.

And for you accelerationist and your insurrection fantasies, lol. I hope youre willing to loose generations- your sons and daughters -to the civil war you all fap about while typing your rebuttal here with something along the lines of lol emoji 4dchess.

Out.
9/14/2026 2:43:00 PM EDT
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16 pages on a lousy $5,000 check.
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this place(thread) is reddit - interesting as hell to witness the dog pile, the narrative shift and consensus building as more glom on
I pray trump wins both houses not only because I want him too but I have screen shot some of the boldest, most certain claims and I want to rub their nose in it afterwards lol
9/14/2026 3:15:09 PM EDT
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this place(thread) is reddit - interesting as hell to witness the dog pile, the narrative shift and consensus building as more glom on
I pray trump wins both houses not only because I want him too but I have screen shot some of the boldest, most certain claims and I want to rub their nose in it afterwards lol
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Originally Posted By realwar:l

16 pages on a lousy $5,000 check.


this place(thread) is reddit - interesting as hell to witness the dog pile, the narrative shift and consensus building as more glom on
I pray trump wins both houses not only because I want him too but I have screen shot some of the boldest, most certain claims and I want to rub their nose in it afterwards lol

You realize almost everyone if not everyone here wants the Republicans to win both houses of Congress, right?
9/14/2026 3:19:56 PM EDT
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I'm in no hurry for boomers to exit this mortal coil BUT QFT and it can't happen soon enough.
9/14/2026 3:23:00 PM EDT
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16 pages Tldr

When do we get our guvmint Cheddar?

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