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Today 11:35:19 AM EST
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Bad News About the Sig P211...


"I've seen these guns beat like a Singaporean shoplifter..."

TLDW:  Addresses the 320 controversy, points out he's paid by TFB, not SIG, gun runs like a fancy 2011 but costs a lot less.
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Today 11:53:27 AM EST
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1. Why do we want a 2011 that takes 320 mags?

2. Is the fire control made out of mim?
Today 11:56:47 AM EST
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Originally Posted By merick:
1. Why do we want a 2011 that takes 320 mags?

2. Is the fire control made out of mim?
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Same could be said for 2011s that take glock mags.

The main reason is mags are cheaper.
I bought all this equipment. What do you mean that the dead AREN'T coming back to life?
Today 12:00:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By merick:  1. Why do we want a 2011 that takes 320 mags?

2. Is the fire control made out of mim?
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1) There is a sudden surplus of P320 mags on the market for.... some reason.

2) Almost certainly, the finest Indian steel MIMed FCG that SIG can buy for the least possible amount of money.
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Today 12:00:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By merick:
1. Why do we want a 2011 that takes 320 mags?

2. Is the fire control made out of mim?
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2011 mags are crap.

They were originally designed for .45 ACP, they're expensive, and reliability is passable at best for range toy use after something like 30 years of messing with them trying to make them work.

Most guns you own use MIM parts. The question is whether or not SIG is doing their part to make sure Sandeep is making these correctly.
"Sometimes, the grass is greener because it's on a septic system."

"Sporterizing: The art of spending $700 on a $300 gun to make it worth $200." -GTwannabe
Today 12:09:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By merick:
1. Why do we want a 2011 that takes 320 mags?

2. Is the fire control made out of mim?
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The P320 magazine is a better/more reliable magazine design than 9mm 2011. Also cheaper
Today 12:11:39 PM EST
[#6]
Interesting. Sig tends to do a better job with hammer guns....
Today 12:20:06 PM EST
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In before people call James a shill but I actually like his content and reviews. He seems a hell of a lot more genuine than a lot of guys doing this type of content.
Today 12:27:14 PM EST
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Now they need to do one with xmacro magazines!!
Today 12:30:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By southerncross:
In before people call James a shill but I actually like his content and reviews. He seems a hell of a lot more genuine than a lot of guys doing this type of content.
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James, RDR Gear, 1911 Syndicate, and some others are probably the best ones in the space these days that are not part of Leviathan group and pushing whatever is hype at the moment.
Today 12:32:53 PM EST
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I’m curious if the barrel is throated sufficiently to handle commonly used coated LRN bullets.  The Kimber 2011 is not and its nitrided barrel requires a carbide reamer to open the throat.
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Today 12:33:03 PM EST
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This appears to be just a money grab by sig to get in on the 2011 craze if you already have a P320 and P320 mags. I'm slowly dumping all my Sigs since the next generation of buyers isnt hyped on hammer guns aside from a few here and there. Also, sig kind of lost me when it became about the P320 and turned itself into a lifestyle company that sells itself on being somekind of lifestyle rather than just a gun company.
Today 12:34:06 PM EST
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Did i get in before the first self discharge?
Today 12:35:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:


2011 mags are crap.

They were originally designed for .45 ACP, they're expensive, and reliability is passable at best for range toy use after something like 30 years of messing with them trying to make them work.

Most guns you own use MIM parts. The question is whether or not SIG is doing their part to make sure Sandeep is making these correctly.
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
Originally Posted By merick:
1. Why do we want a 2011 that takes 320 mags?

2. Is the fire control made out of mim?


2011 mags are crap.

They were originally designed for .45 ACP, they're expensive, and reliability is passable at best for range toy use after something like 30 years of messing with them trying to make them work.

Most guns you own use MIM parts. The question is whether or not SIG is doing their part to make sure Sandeep is making these correctly.
That used to be the case.  Not anymore.  The mags are much better now.
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Today 12:40:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RikWriter:
That used to be the case.  Not anymore.  The mags are much better now.
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Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
Originally Posted By merick:
1. Why do we want a 2011 that takes 320 mags?

2. Is the fire control made out of mim?


2011 mags are crap.

They were originally designed for .45 ACP, they're expensive, and reliability is passable at best for range toy use after something like 30 years of messing with them trying to make them work.

Most guns you own use MIM parts. The question is whether or not SIG is doing their part to make sure Sandeep is making these correctly.
That used to be the case.  Not anymore.  The mags are much better now.


2011 mags have improved, but they'll always be inherently inferior to every major magazine on the market that was actually designed for 9mm from the beginning.
"Sometimes, the grass is greener because it's on a septic system."

"Sporterizing: The art of spending $700 on a $300 gun to make it worth $200." -GTwannabe
Today 12:44:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Same could be said for 2011s that take glock mags.

The main reason is mags are cheaper.
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Originally Posted By merick:
1. Why do we want a 2011 that takes 320 mags?

2. Is the fire control made out of mim?
Same could be said for 2011s that take glock mags.

The main reason is mags are cheaper.

I'll add, I live in a ban state but already have tons of hi-cap glock mags, and if I get a 2011 that can take glock mags, it's more appealing.
Today 12:47:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Pjmc:


James, RDR Gear, 1911 Syndicate, and some others are probably the best ones in the space these days that are not part of Leviathan group and pushing whatever is hype at the moment.
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He's got that going for him. But even being outside of leviathan he has to chase the same hot stories to get clicks.

Fyi 1911 syndicate is listed as leviathan here. https://www.leviathantribe.com/
Holy smokes that's a lot of channels.
Today 12:53:57 PM EST
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It’ll have a tough row to hoe going against the Platypus, which takes actual cheap mags and doesn’t have the StIGma the P211 does.
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Today 12:58:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Pjmc:
This appears to be just a money grab by sig to get in on the 2011 craze if you already have a P320 and P320 mags. I'm slowly dumping all my Sigs since the next generation of buyers isnt hyped on hammer guns aside from a few here and there. Also, sig kind of lost me when it became about the P320 and turned itself into a lifestyle company that sells itself on being somekind of lifestyle rather than just a gun company.
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This might be the most retarded thing I have ever read.


every company that makes and sells something is trying to grab money... it the whole fucking point of capitalism...
Today 1:16:16 PM EST
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I’m getting one next year.

Very excited.
Today 1:57:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ken_mays:
It’ll have a tough row to hoe going against the Platypus, which takes actual cheap mags and doesn’t have the StIGma the P211 does.
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I haven't kept tabs on things...

Has the Platypus anodizing/durability question been settled?
"Sometimes, the grass is greener because it's on a septic system."

"Sporterizing: The art of spending $700 on a $300 gun to make it worth $200." -GTwannabe