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| Recently the guy from Sage Dynamics posted something about an SOLGW rifle on social media. I got into the comments and asked what makes these better than a G$, DD, some other Gucci rifle. I'm not knocking them but from what I can tell through brief google searched they buy parts to their spec and assemble them as lots of people out source their parts. No big deal but these fan boys acted like I kicked their dog for asking what made them superior. Most of the responses were "trust me bro" or " just shoot one and you'll understand". Even one of or the owner jumped in when I pointed out that they don't pin their gas blocks, calling it antiquated. Can any of you guys tell me what would make one superior to the DDs/G$/KAC of the world? I looked at their specs and on paper look to be just fine, but not head and shoulders above any of the premium AR brands. |
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They make nice stuff, but are full retard with their pricing. No way in Hell I would pay what they are asking for their "MK1" when you can wait for a sale and get a Geissele, quality red dot, and a case of ammo for the same amount. $3K dollars is absolute insanity. |
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Originally Posted By JCIN: Its Noveske for the next generation. Yup. Do they make ( Well...assemble) good rifles? Sure. Are they worth what they are asking for? Fuck no. They are local to me and I debated buying one back around 2021. Last time I checked they went full retard with their pricing. I own two G Super Duty rifles, they were worth every penny. |
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I’m going to agree with whats already been said. I have looked into their rifles a lot and mainly one of their chrome BCGs for a while. I just don’t see anything that stands out and makes it worth the cost vs other manufacturers. They do appear to make a very nice rifle but for the money I’m always going with G$. |
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Originally Posted By ak4784: I’m going to agree with whats already been said. I have looked into their rifles a lot and mainly one of their chrome BCGs for a while. I just don’t see anything that stands out and makes it worth the cost vs other manufacturers. They do appear to make a very nice rifle but for the money I’m always going with G$. That’s kinda what was figuring but I wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing something. |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: They're gun assemblers. So, was, is Colt. Very few AR companies make parts in house. It just isn’t economical. I like the SOLGW rifles I have handled. I’ve always been told their barrels weren’t anything special unless it was an edition with a better type/brand. I think their logo is stupid, no offense. |
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Originally Posted By Glck1911: They make nice stuff, but are full retard with their pricing. No way in Hell I would pay what they are asking for their "MK1" when you can wait for a sale and get a Geissele, quality red dot, and a case of ammo for the same amount. $3K dollars is absolute insanity. They don’t make anything. |
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Lots of companies make quality parts. The only factory rifle I own is a Colt 6920. It’s a nice rifle and shoots really well, it’s been heavily upgraded so pretty gar from stock. Everything else I have was built from quality parts exactly how I wanted it. I have all the proper tools and take my time to do it right. I tend to trust myself more than some random person. That said, I would have no issue buying DD, Geissele or BCM. They all seem to make a quality product at a reasonable price. Thinking through my builds, I do have a coupe with lower end BA barrels that shoot great and will probably swap them for a quality barrel if I ever shoot them out. But having so many rifles, I’m not sure that’ll actually happen in my lifetime. |
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Just from handling a few, I rank them to be about as good as a BCM. Good quality usually that will serve 99% of people their entire life but not top tier. I did SBR one of their lowers and it’s nice. |
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Originally Posted By ak4784: I’m going to agree with whats already been said. I have looked into their rifles a lot and mainly one of their chrome BCGs for a while. I just don’t see anything that stands out and makes it worth the cost vs other manufacturers. They do appear to make a very nice rifle but for the money I’m always going with G$. ^^^ |
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I don't own one and they might be great but if I'm spending 1500 on any AR it's going to be a super duty on sale. I sold my KACs after getting the Giesseles. I did buy a socom for close to that but I always wanted one. I don't fan boy anything anymore and wanted to hate the Super Duty when they came out but they are great rifles. I don't see solgw being better and I'm not a fan of non pinned gas blocks so there's my proof there  |
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Adco has black super duty’s for $1600 shipped right now. Best deal on a buy once / cry once stick. |
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Originally Posted By JDatTOA: Yeahs but are BCMs $2600? Originally Posted By JDatTOA: Originally Posted By Paulie771: Just from handling a few, I rank them to be about as good as a BCM. Good quality usually that will serve 99% of people their entire life but not top tier. I did SBR one of their lowers and it’s nice. Yeahs but are BCMs $2600? Hell no, nor should SOLGW be that price. They have BA barrels and Microbest BCG for fuck’s sake. I paid $900 for my brand new G$ Super Duty Mod 1 14.5” complete upper. Ain’t no fucking way I’m pay more for a SOLGW upper or full build. |
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Originally Posted By Glck1911: They make nice stuff, but are full retard with their pricing. No way in Hell I would pay what they are asking for their "MK1" when you can wait for a sale and get a Geissele, quality red dot, and a case of ammo for the same amount. $3K dollars is absolute insanity. For the $$$, go with a company like G$ or LMT that make weapons for our and other militaries. |
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Originally Posted By kab85: First of all, don't lump any of that other shit in with KAC, the Lord's rifle. LMT, Hodge - sure - but nothing that you can buy with Klarna or that you find on a dead tranny mass shooter. I thought hodge was parts builders. The ones we carried had DD barrels and Geissele HGs. |
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Originally Posted By Pallas: That is entirely true. Originally Posted By Pallas: Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By Pallas: Originally Posted By 03RN: They're gun assemblers. So, was, is Colt. That's not entirely true. That is entirely true. Well, if you're going to double down then prove it. Colt outsources stuff absolutely no doubt but they absolutely makes stuff in house. Ive toured their facilities. They have chips on the floor. So please cite your opinions. Also, fwiw I dont own a Colt product so im not some fanboy. |
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Adco has black super duty’s for $1600 shipped right now. Best deal on a buy once / cry once stick. Not when you can get a new DD for $1200. DDM4 208 Gunshop |
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I wonder if it will ship with a crooked handguard and a beat up gas block like the 11.5 upper I have sitting upstairs. Attached File Attached File Must have been a Friday upper. Also, by the time you add a trigger that doesn't suck, that DD is a lot closer to the G rifle. |
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Originally Posted By Paulie771: Hell no, nor should SOLGW be that price. They have BA barrels and Microbest BCG for fuck’s sake. I paid $900 for my brand new G$ Super Duty Mod 1 14.5” complete upper. Ain’t no fucking way I’m pay more for a SOLGW upper or full build. I have been amazed that they assembled mid grade parts and charged relatively high prices, yet have a fan base. |
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Originally Posted By Marksman14: I wonder if it will ship with a crooked handguard and a beat up gas block like the 11.5 upper I have sitting upstairs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6045/IMG_3347_jpeg-3661062.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6045/IMG_3348_jpeg-3661063.JPG Must have been a Friday upper. Also, by the time you add a trigger that doesn't suck, that DD is a lot closer to the G rifle. What did DD say? |
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I like DD a lot, but I'd personally spend the extra $400 on the Super Duty. Every DD barrel I've ever had shot lights out, but was wayyy overgassed to the point of being unpleasant to shoot suppressed. It's been a while though so maybe they've changed that. |
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Companies can charge what they want. Complaining about the price won't usually get you anywhere. Value adds from SOLGW? Billet upper, lower, and handguard. Laser-engraved rail. Unique controls. Proprietary barrel. It sounds like they didn't just pull a number out of the air, but are pricing the MK1 relative to their development investments. |
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Originally Posted By theguymontag: What did DD say? No idea. I'll loosen the bolts and level the rail- frankly this is almost something I assume I will have to do when we get a DD upper. As for the gas block, its not functional damage so at the end of the day, not worth the hassle. My guess is they'd replace the gas block and level the rail. Problem is, last time I sent an upper back for a rail that was grossly defected (meaning literally bent and wouldn't allow the barrel to even come close to centering in it), they sent back the upper with a new rail that was straight, but still sent it to me canted like the one pictured above, so even when they're fixing an upper, they still apparently don't do it properly. *If* this one goes back, I'll toss a level in the box for them since they either don't have one, or theirs is broken |
