Posted: 6/3/2001 2:09:55 PM EDT
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Is there such a thing as a preban mini 14 ? If so, what are the specifics. I have an older mini 14 and am wondering WTF. how much would a preban be worth [):)] |
| Pre-ban Mini-14's aren't worth to much more than a post-ban. I have a pre-ban Mini-14 with a Butler Creek side folding stock. I have tried to sell it for $500 time and again. It never sells. I even offer it with the original box and 10 40rd mags. To find out if it is pre-ban or not call Ruger at 1-603-863-3300, they can tell on what date it left the factory. Since it's a Mini-14 it would have left the factory as a whole gun so if it was before the ban it would be pre-ban. I hope this helps. |
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Originally Posted By Gun Scum: Pre-ban Mini-14's aren't worth to much more than a post-ban. I have a pre-ban Mini-14 with a Butler Creek side folding stock. I have tried to sell it for $500 time and again. It never sells. I even offer it with the original box and 10 40rd mags. You can say that again! I've got an unfired 100% cond. SS factory folder (Factory FH, lug, etc.) in the box, with the Ruger 30 rd mag, & an M-9 bayonet that came with it that I've been tentatively offering (instate) to a couple friends for $800, & no takers so far. I don't care if I sell it or not, but that thing would've lasted as long as a Twinkie in front of Rosie two years ago. They were pretty colectable for years. Yesterday, I got SOG's newest catalogue, & they've got 'em for about the same price (Theirs aren't new, but they'll "handpick" for $10). Damned it! There goes my career as a "firearms investment consultant". [:|] |
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There is ONLY 1 preban mini-14, The GB model. (Factory folder, Flash Suppressor, Bayonet Lug) If your mini is not a GB then it is not a preban regardless of the year made as the mini was not a rifle that was banned. A mini made in 1980 is the exact same as a mini made in 2000. |
| Wrong, RipMeyer. If a mini14 was made before the ban AND had 'evil' features added to it, again, before the ban, it is a preban. If it had a pistol grip stock and flash hider added before the ban date, you can replace it with something similar, more up to date. It doesn't make it worth more, but it is legal to upgrade the 'evil' features with something more to your liking. |
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Quoted: There is ONLY 1 preban mini-14, The GB model. (Factory folder, Flash Suppressor, Bayonet Lug) If your mini is not a GB then it is not a preban regardless of the year made as the mini was not a rifle that was banned. A mini made in 1980 is the exact same as a mini made in 2000. Yeah, mine are stamped GB (M-855CH_). What's the deal with some parts not fitting Minis with 181 prefix? I thought it was just something legal for a long time, but today I saw a NORMAL stock w scope base that said "CANNOT be used on rifles with serial # s starting with 181" ?!? |
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Originally Posted By LARRY G: Wrong, RipMeyer. If a mini14 was made before the ban AND had 'evil' features added to it, again, before the ban, it is a preban. If it had a pistol grip stock and flash hider added before the ban date, you can replace it with something similar, more up to date. It doesn't make it worth more, but it is legal to upgrade the 'evil' features with something more to your liking. All the subjects that come up here about pre-ban or not, I think this one would be the eaisest one to actually get busted on. The mini was never an "assualt weapon" and the judge would go with that. you make the call but IMO its a VERY thin line. Not worth it to me, thats why I have a GB [img]communities.msn.com/_Secure/0NAAvB5oQYpmFpBST0SOyKTf7Ru1JMWGv3wuGHqmhMtVcg0etIafnDAq8nt87NlfJ0qyJYsO8fBY0PGgtiKGttw/Mini14(1).jpg[/img] |
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Unfortunately, the Mini 14 can be classified as an assault weapon, depending on configuration. In truth, an "assault weapon" was a select fire weapon, but the term has been redefined. Now, if a weapon accepts detachable mags and has two other described features it is an "assault weapon." If your Mini has a folding stock and pistol grip it is an assault weapon. Capability to accept a detachable mag plus any two of the following make a rifle "assault": pistol grip below the action, folding or collapsible stock, flash hider, grenade launcher, bayonet lug. A GB is certainly a preban assault weapon by today's definition, but so is my K Mini-14/5F. It has a factory folding stock, pistol grip, and of course, accepts detachable mags. How is the ATF going to prove that a Mini manufactured before (you pick the date) never had a folding stock with pistol grip on it prior to 1994? Regarding the value of preban Minis, if a friend of mine wanted to sell a NIB ss factory GB folder for $800 with a factory 30 round mag, it would be his no longer! |