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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:14:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BuckeyeRifleman] [#1]
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Originally Posted By treeboar:


The "liberals" are only angry because her politics is in opposition to theirs.  That is all.
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And the conservatives are only defending it because her politics are in agreement with hers. That shit goes both ways.

I think she’s a shitty dog owner either way. I’m not opposed in any fashion to shooting truly aggressive dogs, but I’m willing to bet a good amount of money that dog was behaving the way it was purely because of her own doing. Even with her I’m sure trying to paint the situation in a manner that put herself as the good guy, it was still really suspect. That says a lot.

She’s a politician, so it’s not a far stretch that she’s also a psychopath.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:19:28 PM EDT
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I'm not horrified but my husband and I had to put down our last two dogs. They both had seizures and were in pain, there was no emergency vet so I had to put down one (my husband was working) and he put the other one down about a year later for the exact same reason. It was awful but I would make the same choice again if needed.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:21:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rob78:


Cool.  You farm a lot of dogs for slaughter?
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I guess Samuel Jackson was right.

Pulp Fiction - Pigs are filthy animals
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:21:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By super_dirt_bags:
Had to put my girlfriend's dog down after he was run over by a delivery truck in their driveway. It fucking sucked but him lying there in horrible pain was not acceptable. Sometimes you just have to do what needs to be done.
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I was put in a similar situation. Friends old dog got ran over by a hay wagon. I offered to do the dirty work for him, it was pretty terrible and I hope I never have to do that again but it needed to happen
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:23:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Morgan321:


When I was a kid there was no dog pound or animal shelter and the vet was the guy you called only if he could fix an animal that was valuable or provided meat(because he gave you a bill when he left).

Kittens and puppies were cool until I was around 7 or 8, then I discovered what happened to most of the kittens and puppies when my grandfather delegated to me the job of giving away a litter of kittens a barn cat had.  I was able to give away one kitten, then I learned it was also my job to kill the remaining kittens.  From then on I made sure our barn cats were boys to eliminate the kitten issue.

I wonder why anyone, much less a politician, would include details like that in a book.  It doesn't take a genius to know that such a story from a politician would not be well received.  Then I remember that she's a female politician and that explains everything.  

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Assumptions are the killer of logic. You incorrectly assume her reason is due to gender and she incorrectly assumed that most people would understand her logic.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:26:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ExFed1811:
I grew up on a farm/ranch.   I learned early on not to give the livestock animals pet names before it was time to send them to the  slaughterhouse.


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We had a goat named "Dinner" , it wasn't very good and didn't even make "Snack".
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:30:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Morgan321:


A friend in high school came in one day with an incredible story - his mom backed over their cat that morning taking his little sister to school, but kitty didn't die.  Little sister was freaking out screaming and crying, mom was a cop and carried the cat onto the grass and shot it with her police gun while his sister was screaming.  This was in their front yard in the suburbs!  Mom grabbed a shovel, quickly buried kitty in the flower bed, and shuffled his sister off to school.  


 
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One of my wife's students had a cat that was mauled by a neighbor's dog. Because the owners of the cat were too stupid/ignorant/dumb/attached to the cat, they let the little girl hang on to the cat for 2-3 days without taking it to the vet. The cat of course died in the little girls bed after suffering with ripped up ears and legs and stomach and back.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:35:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Apollo2877:
I had a wonderful little rat terrier that got ran over by one of my other dogs one evening.  Long story....  Didn't think he was really hurt, he was just laying around for most of the night.  Went to bed and he woke us up at 4:30 am screaming.  He yelled for a bit and relaxed.  I didn't have emergency vet money, but my SIL worked at a vet.  I sent her a text to call as soon as she woke.  In this time he did his screaming yelps a couple  more times.  We had it set up, vet was coming in early and just after 7 he passed in my arms.  

When he first started to do that, I thought I should take him in the basement and put him out of his misery, I didn't.  I knew it would fuck me up having to kill him.  But now looking back, him suffering for a few hours fucks me up probably even more than if I had done what should have been done.

Miss you Bentley...
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Based on what it did to my buddy I'm betting the other way would have been worse.  He sounds like a lot of the psycho paths on here, he decided to put down his dog with a .22 and it fucked him up.  He wished he had taken her to the vet.
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Originally Posted By callmestick:


Based on what it did to my buddy I'm betting the other way would have been worse.  He sounds like a lot of the psycho paths on here, he decided to put down his dog with a .22 and it fucked him up.  He wished he had taken her to the vet.
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Originally Posted By callmestick:
Originally Posted By Apollo2877:
I had a wonderful little rat terrier that got ran over by one of my other dogs one evening.  Long story....  Didn't think he was really hurt, he was just laying around for most of the night.  Went to bed and he woke us up at 4:30 am screaming.  He yelled for a bit and relaxed.  I didn't have emergency vet money, but my SIL worked at a vet.  I sent her a text to call as soon as she woke.  In this time he did his screaming yelps a couple  more times.  We had it set up, vet was coming in early and just after 7 he passed in my arms.  

When he first started to do that, I thought I should take him in the basement and put him out of his misery, I didn't.  I knew it would fuck me up having to kill him.  But now looking back, him suffering for a few hours fucks me up probably even more than if I had done what should have been done.

Miss you Bentley...


Based on what it did to my buddy I'm betting the other way would have been worse.  He sounds like a lot of the psycho paths on here, he decided to put down his dog with a .22 and it fucked him up.  He wished he had taken her to the vet.



People are different. One person is absolutely crushed by something that doesn't bother somebody else. It's actually weird that people don't want to understand this. I attempt to do what is best for my pets despite how it affects me. It does not affect me well.
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Horrified, no.  Saddened, yes.
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I’ve shot a handful of strays on our property harassing our goats and chickens over the years. Always made clean shots and anchored all of them to avoid any suffering.

Wish people would police their pets, but if they won’t and they attack the wife’s goats then I’ll do what’s necessary.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:48:40 PM EDT
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She put down a nuisance animal that was attacking her neighbor’s livestock.  This is pretty standard in rural America as well as farms and ranches across the world.  The hysteria surrounding this issue is moronic
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:50:26 PM EDT
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Root of word humane is human. Dogs aren't human.
Big difference in a pet and a working dog.

Outside of dogs I've killed a lot of animals. Bambi had a bigger ipmact on society than people give it credit for.

Wait till your kid or a kid you know claims a cow/calf as a pet.....
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:51:33 PM EDT
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Horrified? No, because I'm not a pussy.
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Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:


That's not why she killed the dog.

She killed the dog after the failed hunt, and after the dog killed chickens and bit her. Oh, and she lived on a ranch.


This story definitely illustrates the difference in those familiar with ranch/farm life and city.
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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:55:17 PM EDT
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Having the vet do it doesn't change anything, you're just outsourcing it so you can feel better about yourself, and that isn't something that should be about you at all.
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I don't which is the greater bullshit . . . that statement itself. . . or the fact that it's a suspiciously exact paraphrase from the character Lazarus Long in Robert Heinleins's novel "Time Enough for Love."

What is it with Biden lovers and their never-ending desire to poorly plagiarize?
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:55:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Carpe_Carp:
What intestinal fortitude . . .

Overpriced?  Are you a poor?  It's maybe $100 tops.  What . . .would spending a Franklin cut into the lube budget too much or something?
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Originally Posted By Carpe_Carp:
What intestinal fortitude . . .

Overpriced?  Are you a poor?  It's maybe $100 tops.  What . . .would spending a Franklin cut into the lube budget too much or something?


Welcome fellow firearms enthusiast!
Yes, I spent lots of time growing up on my grandparents farm and they were subsistence farmers, poor as dirt.  Only time I saw a vet come out was once when a pregnant cow was sick.  


Originally Posted By QueenDeNile:
Assumptions are the killer of logic. You incorrectly assume…..

You’re just mad because I said you should cut your adult child loose.  
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:56:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Explorer225:
Watched my dad choke my dog to death when I was a kid. We were checking on a new calf and my dog started to chase it. Dad grabbed his collar and the dog snapped at him. Dead dog right on the spot.

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Hard to beat a good dog for a young boy.
Had my own growing up.

That said...I've made the comment before that a sure sign your country is doing well is when Petsmart moves in.
Large block sized building just opened up in my city... dedicated to pet care.

We relate to animals now with more sympathy than humans...not the fault of the pets just another sign of a dying civilization.
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Originally Posted By Carpe_Carp:
This isn't 1895;  call the vet and have it humanely euthanized.  Anybody that's too cheap and/or stupid to do that is either an asshole, retarded, or a psychopath.

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They don't do it for free, nor do they do it for cheap.

Last time I had one done, it was 3 days pay. Definitely felt gut kicked by the vet when I already felt bad about having to put an end to my dog's suffering.

Yep, your dog is paralyzed. One shot on each side of the thoracic cavity, and left me alone outside to cry while my dog died in my arms. Then he came out to make sure his heart had stopped. That was it.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 6:02:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By USA1st:
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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 6:02:08 PM EDT
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Wirehaired pointers can be ass holes. I fault her more for not training it from a young age 14 months is not a good time to start obedience training and not rehoming it but I get it.

I also fault her from being from South Dakota and not knowing wire hairs are sharp to fur and birds.

Finally I fault her for putting that in a book.  She may not be the brightest bulb.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 6:04:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By borat:
Horrified ?    My stupid fucking pets are the least of my concerns or some fucking animal somewhere. Country is going to shit.

I could give a shit about our pet cat or the birds. I’m more worried about my kids growing up in this socialist  democracy once known as the United States.
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I wouldnt give a shit about a cat either

I would do anything for my dogs though....theyre awesome
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 6:09:29 PM EDT
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End of life, it sucks bad, because you second guess yourself on, it, is it time? Hit by a car and in pain on the side of the road?  No question, it's going to hurt emotionally,  but you'd do it for me!

Do it, Sandy I'd do it for you!

It's especially hard when you kind of trade humans for live stock(pets). Other than children they are the only thing that are capable of unconditional love. I have seen animals live in truly deplorable conditions, and still seek out truly sadistic masters approval upon a save/ Rescue.  

And I'm not talking crazy Karen, Cynthia, Sharron and Kelly, like puppy mills and fight mills. There are some truly evil people into blood sports just for their own personal gain.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 6:14:58 PM EDT
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I have had to put sick or really injured pets down since I was like 10. Never liked it, but I hate to see a dumb animal suffering.

Last time was like 20 years ago. A stray cat that kinda adopted me and my neighbor. When the weather would turn cold, we would take turns putting the cat up every night. Anyway, some dogs got ahold of the cat and tore him up pretty bad, like dragging intestines bad

It was in town, I didn't feel comfortable discharging a firearm. I used a shovel. My neighbor was horrified, didn't talk to me for awhile. Meh. Did what I had to do.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 6:17:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By magnum_99:
Horrified? No, because I'm not a pussy.
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Being horrified because you have to end the suffering of an animal you consider a pet doesn't make you a pussy. It makes you not a sociopath. You know, empathy and all.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 6:25:46 PM EDT
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Arfcom “ I would shot those animals until there was nothing left but shit and food stamps, I’m the hardest motherfucker in the cul de sac. Gonna be a warlord when the revolution comes with a harem of soccer moms. Can’t wait to get a conus kill.” Arfcom

Also arfcom “I can’t put my own pets down”.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 6:35:39 PM EDT
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I was raised in rural Utah , we had chickens, rabbits, cows, pigs, horses. I grew up hunting Deer , Grouse , Doves , rabbits. I was raised as a hick from the sticks.
I am also a Dog person. I get a Dog they are there until one of dies. My dogs are part of the family. You raise your kids to grow up , become strong and independent. Then leave and go on their own. My Dogs are there until the death do us apart. I take control of their lives , and they are well taken care of. They go to the Vet for their medical needs. In my world, notice I say my world, I will not allow an animal to suffer. I take full control of their lives and deaths also. If you need to get a Vet to provide services, that’s okay with me . But I won’t put my responsibilities on a Vet . Is this easy? Hell no , but it’s my problem and will be dealt as such. They’re a lot of tough things in the world to deal with, this is one of them Brothers.
I guess my entire point is not to let your pets suffer. When it’s time, get it done. My latest  Yorkie just jumped up on my lap, got her for my birthday last year. Her predecessor went her way in April of last year. She had a collapsed trachea and was drowning in her own fluids. Remember life isn’t measured in years, it’s measured in dogs. Treat them accordingly.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 6:41:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SBR300BLK:
It's part of a responsible person's life. If you can't put an animal down that needs it you're emotionally stunted or coddled.  (Weak) Love pets but don't make another man do your dirty work.
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No one here said they would not put a pet and loved member of their family down. They just stated how they preferred to put them down. I just had to put my best friend of 17 years down. She was part of my family. I had a vet put her down. I've put down my stepson cat. A cat that I actually liked. I told him later if he ever needed it done again he could do it.

I have zero problems hunting or fishing. But putting a bullet in the head of a dog I've had in my lap for 17 years. No I'm not doing it when there are other opinions. Hell I had her cremated and she will be buried with me. I have no intentions of replacing her either. I thought of her as more than just a dog. She was family and she earned that spot.

I was in the Army and FRS and I've seen a lot of death in my life time. But that does not mean I lost my empathy and made me a hard ass. I felt for every life I lost in FRS. I cried like a baby when I had to put down my friend. If left with absolutely no choice and had no ther opinions. I'd do what I had to do and it'd break my heart. Also does not mean I'd not kill a violent or sick wild animal of any kind either. That includes the worst kind to that walks on two legs.
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You're just mad because I said you should cut your adult child loose.  
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Originally Posted By QueenDeNile:
Assumptions are the killer of logic. You incorrectly assume ..

You're just mad because I said you should cut your adult child loose.  
Dude I had no clue you said anything to me until you brought it up. I didn't care then or now. You're making assumptions based on your experience and personality which is only exclusive to you. I'm just trying to draw your attention to it so you can learn a more effective way to make an argument.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 6:44:57 PM EDT
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I have to put down my dog and my oldest cat, probably this week.  We debated taking them together.  I don't know how this is going to turn out.
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Originally Posted By borat:
Horrified ?    My stupid fucking pets are the least of my concerns or some fucking animal somewhere. Country is going to shit.

I could give a shit about our pet cat or the birds. I'm more worried about my kids growing up in this socialist  democracy once known as the United States.
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Nailed it.
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Don't think, for a minute, that everyone who puts a poor animal out of it's misery doesn't feel bad about it.

I've cried over dogs I didn't even like.  Real PITA dogs that constantly caused me problems.  I still cried after burying them and thinking about them later.

When I come in the house in the evening I speak to each of my dogs and tell them good night.  Four and five years later I sometimes still tell one or more of them that are gone good night before remembering they've been gone for years.  Sometimes I still grab treats from the box for a dog that is no longer with us.  Then I feel bad and put that treat/biscuit back while wishing that dog was still around, and healthy so I could pet them, give them a hug/squeeze and talk to them.  I sit around and remember the day I got them from the dog pound/shelter or got them from someone who wanted a puppy, but not a partially grown dog.  I talk to my dogs like they were people and I hate it when they're no longer here.  But, everything dies sooner or later.  Old age, cancer, accidents.  We do, the dogs do, the cats do.  

Don't ever make the mistake of thinking we don't care or don't miss them.
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Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:
She put down a nuisance animal that was attacking her neighbor’s livestock.  This is pretty standard in rural America as well as farms and ranches across the world.  The hysteria surrounding this issue is moronic
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Yep
The neighbor would have shot it sooner or later
Was it people - aggressive as well? I can’t recall.
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Originally Posted By BooJangles:
I think it says a lot about someone with regards to how they treat animals. We have plenty of p psychopaths on this site that out themselves when topics like this come up.
Harvesting an animal for food is fine as long as it's quick and the animal doesn't suffer.
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So is taking your dog to the gas station, grocery store, hardware store, restaurants, etc. and spending thousands on vet bills and surgeries to keep fluffy lying on the floor breathing for another 2 weeks.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 7:03:19 PM EDT
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Horrified?    No.  

Sometimes you have to suck it up and do what needs to be done.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 7:04:02 PM EDT
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Noem is an idiot for putting that in her memoirs
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It’s actually disgusting and says a lot about conservatives today .

I often wonder how many accounts are bots or trolls here to change the narrative.

I cannot believe men bought into this bullshit.
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Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:
She put down a nuisance animal that was attacking her neighbor’s livestock.  This is pretty standard in rural America as well as farms and ranches across the world.  The hysteria surrounding this issue is moronic


It’s actually disgusting and says a lot about conservatives today .

I often wonder how many accounts are bots or trolls here to change the narrative.

I cannot believe men bought into this bullshit.

Farmers and ranchers hold a different—and have done so for thousands of years—take on animals than urban pansies.
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This.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the subject dog was more of a tool than a pet.

She also shot a goat. I shot a goat for the same reason.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 7:08:14 PM EDT
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Yep
The neighbor would have shot it sooner or later
Was it people - aggressive as well? I can’t recall.
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Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:
She put down a nuisance animal that was attacking her neighbor’s livestock.  This is pretty standard in rural America as well as farms and ranches across the world.  The hysteria surrounding this issue is moronic


Yep
The neighbor would have shot it sooner or later
Was it people - aggressive as well? I can’t recall.

I dunno, but it’s pretty standard to put down a dig that attacks livestock and it’s pretty standard you do it yourself—you take care of your own
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Originally Posted By T1NMAN:


Hard to beat a good dog for a young boy.
Had my own growing up.

That said...I've made the comment before that a sure sign your country is doing well is when Petsmart moves in.
Large block sized building just opened up in my city... dedicated to pet care.

We relate to animals now with more sympathy than humans...not the fault of the pets just another sign of a dying civilization.
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Originally Posted By Explorer225:
Watched my dad choke my dog to death when I was a kid. We were checking on a new calf and my dog started to chase it. Dad grabbed his collar and the dog snapped at him. Dead dog right on the spot.

I believe dogs are family but they're not people.


Hard to beat a good dog for a young boy.
Had my own growing up.

That said...I've made the comment before that a sure sign your country is doing well is when Petsmart moves in.
Large block sized building just opened up in my city... dedicated to pet care.

We relate to animals now with more sympathy than humans...not the fault of the pets just another sign of a dying civilization.

This is what bothers me the most.  At times of weakness my mind wanders into the dark corners that say "Maybe they ARE right.  There's too damn many people."  While I don't truly believe that, I can see where it could be responsible for a lot of our modern issues.
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This GD where we make wild assumptions and apply our own worldview to everything and anybody who disagrees is a big fat dummy head.  Get with the times!

PS stereotypes exist for a reason.  This is GD so I don’t care if the stereotype is accurate in this case or not!
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I dunno, but it’s pretty standard to put down a dig that attacks livestock and it’s pretty standard you do it yourself—you take care of your own
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Originally Posted By BoneB1B:
Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:
She put down a nuisance animal that was attacking her neighbor’s livestock.  This is pretty standard in rural America as well as farms and ranches across the world.  The hysteria surrounding this issue is moronic


Yep
The neighbor would have shot it sooner or later
Was it people - aggressive as well? I can’t recall.

I dunno, but it’s pretty standard to put down a dig that attacks livestock and it’s pretty standard you do it yourself—you take care of your own


It was an untrained barely out of puppyhood bird dog that went after… birds. The thing it was bred to chase down and kill.

The dog she failed to train and failed to control.

There is a big difference between that and a mutt that bites the face off a toddler or the herding dog that kills its own livestock.
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But near term babies are killed daily. WTF
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What kind of pet animal are you?
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Don't ever talk to a race horse breeder. You don't want to know what happens to the slow thoroughbreds.



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Weak men create hard times quote
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