Is this slide happening?  Yes.
Does it appear to begin with normalizing homosexuality?  Maybe.  Too many things coincide for me to say there's a direct correlation, though the group of people who supported such normalization seem to be the same group that perpetuates the slide.

That in itself is not evidence that gay is the gateway to further perversion in the same way that the correlation between AR15s and school shootings means owning AR15s is the gateway to violent unlawful acts.

I think it's far more plausible that the people who benefit from identity politics and furthering political divides wherever possible are simply using whatever group they can sink their claws into to further the wedges that divide Americans. Gay people are beginning to realize this, or have for some time, and are trying to separate themselves from the ridiculous monster the LGBTWTFBBQ+/- movement has become.

That last part is still a mystery. I suspect it's because gays have female oriented brains.

I think a huge % of gays were molested as kids, which pushed them into homosexuality, and many others having various hormone brain imbalances and homosexuality is heavily sexual based / extremely high sex drive, high hook up rates / stds/ aids / one night stands and also leans heavily into pedophillia, as that early child molestation manifests into abusing young kids / abused becomes the abuser fulfilling some demented deep seated sexual desire.

Like I said, generally speaking... if a certain behavior is stigmatized in a culture, there's usually a reason why.
Before you get rid of that stigma, you need to ask why it existed in the first place.

Again: homosexuality, single motherhood, recreational drug use.
Three big stigmas that have fallen by the wayside in the last 50 years.
Has the result of that relaxing of our morality been positive or negative for society?
(Bonus question: Who was behind the push for all three?)

If it stayed in their bedroom, fine,whatever. But it didn’t, it instantly morphed into gay perverted / sexual parades, forcing non believers into BAKE MY CAKE !  Teaching gay  / drag / trans lifestyles to young kids in schools and loads of grooming young kids to recruit sexual partners / new gays to their lifestyle and of course pedophillia.

The 'gateway drug' argument is cringey.

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Gays are statistically more likely to abuse children than straight people.  The DOJ study showed about 26% of abuse by gays, who represent a small percentage of the population.  I did not say gays were promoting it as a community, but "knowing plenty who understand it's wrong" doesn't change numbers.  The promoting of pedos is coming from whatever or whoever is pushing trannies and gender conversion.  There is a concerted effort to normalize deviant behavior and infighting at all levels.  That includes dissolving nuclear families, race baiting, etc.  But the only reason people are even able to push children's drag shows is that we allowed gay marriage.  With that fight over, the goal posts were moved to trannies.  The fight has now bled into pedo normalization.  The fact that society was ok with something that was historically deemed deviant, gave rise to a renewed push to normalize next deviant behavior.  

The modern Marxist needs to create victim classes to pedal their bullshit to since crass financial classism alone has largely failed to motivate or appeal to most Americans. Simply because life here isn’t that bad. We have no starving poor people. Our poor people are fat. This is the real reason for the strange bedfellows alliance you see with modern leftists.

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Is your contention that these guys are straight, or that it is not harmful to children?

God hates the sin not the sinner.

I really wonder how many gay people the average Arfcommer knows or interacts with. Fun fact, the weirdos who march in parades wearing village people costumes and horse tail butt plugs are a very small fraction of gay people. Most seem otherwise normal, and you would have no idea they were gay if you didn't know anything about their personal lives.

My neighbors wife is a liberal in the way most college educated upper middle class women are liberals. She won’t let her kids go to the house of the teenage boy in the neighborhood that posts on Facebook about being a gay trans furry. She knows that it isn’t a good idea to expose her under 12 kids to that type freak shit but I couldn’t get her to say it.

It’s not wrong though. Beer is a gateway into hard liquor, because who starts drinking their first beer without eventually being offered / trying liquor ?  Weed is the safe naughty drug that gets clueless people introduced into hard drugs, even if it’s by weed treated with harder drugs, slippery slope argument exists for a reason. Legalizing gay marriage instantly slippery sloped into transgender culture and much worse is waiting for the time transgender lifestyles become normalized enough and once it does pedophillia , or maybe dog fucking, or incest, or something worse will come out next, dropping consent  ages to a reasonable 14, then later 12, then 8, etc, or legalizing gay marriage between siblings, or reg marriage between brother and sister. Because that shits in the pipeline too.

What’s cringey is how slippery slope / gateway drug arguments can be backed up by facts, stories, examples,  while people still try to discredit them, in many cases because they are clueless, while in others they enjoy some variation of said naughty gateway behavior and don’t like being made uncomfortable.

This I agree with 100%.

4) The normalization of mental illness.

Has removing the stigma from mental illness, and not only that but somehow making it a badge of honor, helped society?  Of course not.

So while I don't believe "being gay is a base for further perversion" as a rule, homosexuality is of course abnormal, and the removal of the stigma is why you see such absurd, hyperbolic demonstration of "gayness."   The hyperbole is what causes division, and that's why there's only a war on the stigmas related to minority groups.  That's how to create the greatest wedge and divide us politically forever, because it becomes cultural rather than political.

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This is the point.  Gays aren't the ones pushing the agenda, but the normalization of gay was what allowed that agenda to continue.  Gay marriage was supported by powerful people that didn't give a shit about it.  It was only a stepping stone.  But that conversation is not the same as the OP question.  As to the OP, I absolutely think gays have more perverse behaviors, but I don't care what adults do if they leave me alone.  To your point (and a separate topic IMO) the perversion of society as a whole isn't being masterminded by the gays.  They were used by whoever is intentionally destroying this country.  We wouldn't have allowed what we have today without incrementalism and they knew that.  The BLM movement is the same.    

Yes, and it is well known and documented that many people who were sexually abused will attempt to normalize that abuse by perpetuating it on others.


It's called the cycle of abuse and even the biggest shitlibs admit to it being a thing.


Ultimately, has many posters have pointed out? It's the normalization of mental illness.

The scientific fact is that is wrong. We wouldn’t exist if it was meant to be.

No one wants to say it out loud but all intelligent people understand it’s just another form of mental illness. There’s countless varieties of mental illnesses. Mine is anxiety and depression. You have neat freaks, and then you have hoarders.
People so kind that everyone runs over them all the way to evil serial killers.

It’s just the way it is. If we would acknowledge it for what it is instead of celebrate it, we would all be better off.

There has been a lot of studies conducted on deviant behavior. I think the conclusion is about a 1/3 can be perverted, 1/3 acceptable and a 1/3 worthwhile. Excluding the act of homosexuality which would get into moral and religious debates-having a lifestyle that is outside of the socially norm isn't necessarily that bad. (Statistically only 1/3 has the tendency to be bad). It's strange how homosexuality is viewed by people. Most men find homosexual men cringeworthy-while lesbian women are hot. Most women have an indifference to either act.

Good point - it's been a while since GD had a post where everyone celebrates a female teacher banging an underage student. But apparently, that's different.

Abnormal behavior is how people spot unstable/ dangerous behaviors and individuals, normalizing abnormal behaviors as normal, creates feed back loops and society pressure to ignore obvious abnormal behaviors resulting in increased negative outcomes. The transgender / drag queen story hour shit is a perfect example, but so is ignoring gay behavior and treating them as normal.  Is the only reason you won’t let your 12 year old daughter sleep with a boy possible pregnancy?

Of course not, it’s because you feel she’s too young to be having sexual encounters . So why would you let her have a gay female friend sleep in her bed / room ? Or a gay boy spend the night in your son’s room ?  Because I wouldn’t. But many wood, peer pressured into believing that gay kid is as normal as their non gay kid, when the fact is young kids shouldn’t be having sex with anyone, thus you keep possible sexual partners away from them best as possible especially in intimate, private settings. Yet we have people hauling their toddlers to drag queen story hour, as they have been tricked into believing it’s somehow safe and normal to place young children around obvious abnormal behavior indicating devient sexual practices/ lifestyle choices.

https://www.nj.com/mercer/2024/03/well-known-music-activist-entrepreneur-charged-with-child-porn-possession.html

I'm sure it's nothing, really.

2 members of the same sex cannot feel the same way about each other the way a man and woman walking w God can feel about each other.
It's chemically impossible.

Gay is wrong...

I think you have it the other way around.

Homosexuality is wrong, its not an opinion, its nature.... "reproduction, process by which organisms replicate themselves. In a general sense reproduction is one of the most important concepts in biology: it means making a copy, a likeness, and thereby providing for the continued existence of species."

Yes, I'm trying to draw a distinction between the two because many are conflating the objectively real slide of the Overton window with the OP's premise.

Inconvenient and unpleasant fact time:

Try and find a gay guy who's first sexual experience wasn't with a male more than 10 years older than him.

Try and find a gay guy who was at least 16 when that first sexual experience happened.

If you work really, really hard you can probably find somebody who meets both those criteria. But you're going to be looking for a while.

This is a really sticky (no pun intended) problem with the entire question. There are certainly gay people who aren't raging perverts. They're pretty much normal people who happen to be attracted to the same sex...although they may not even understand the reasons why. Some likely did come out of the womb that way and those are probably the people who aren't child-hungry psychopaths.

The problem is that under their banner, there's a whole bunch of people who are most definitely a threat to children. A good many of these people have been victims of abuse themselves early in life and that sets their die essentially forever. Some people can, through therapy, overcome that and lead a relatively normal life. But those tend to be the exception rather than the rule.

The abuse happens in secret. The secrets get kept for a long time...often forever. If the secret slips out often the victim isn't believed and gets actively shamed into silence. We saw an institutional example of that with the Penn State horrors. Think about how long that particular cauldron of sexual abuse had been boiling prior and how many souls were twisted by it.

Sexual abuse is like a disease. It's passed on from victim to victim, with victims becoming perpetrators.

Then there's the open side of it. It is a goal of marxists to assail the very concept of childhood innocence. They want children sexualized as early as possible because when they despoil a child that child becomes malleable. Warped. And becomes a perpetrator of the same against others in most cases. Once you have raped them, what else can they then resist in the future?

It is a deliberate attempt to undermine society and a quasi-religious blessing upon the frankly satanic desire to destroy purity. You see the exact same thing among the islamists. And for the same reasons. They have all manner of reasons why Allah allows them to rape. And there are plenty of "islamic scholars" who will tell you there isn't a single verse in their silly book that prohibits sex with pre-pubescent children.

Children.

And you don't have to talk to them to see it, any trip to various middle eastern and near eastern locales will show you societies where the sexual abuse of children is as common as oxygen in the air.

Our Afghan "allies" brought boys in cages to "entertain" their troops.

Yassir Arafat was a homosexual pedophile who fucked little boys regularly.

All of that is perfectly cool with Allah in the conception of literally hundreds of millions if not BILLIONS of adherents on this earth. And why not? Because if you can rape a child you have permanently made him "submit." (What does Islam translate to, again?)

With the wokesters you see a funhouse mirror image of the islamists. They are the same people. Their beliefs are almost entirely compatible because both are fundamentally about submission. Namely your submission to their power.

They want your children. Because if you'll give up your children, what won't you give?

There's a reason drag queen story hour isn't a thing in nursing homes. It's always about the children because the islamists and the wokesters prize the despoliation. The violation is the choicest experience.

Offending against infants is highly prized in pedo circles. They go nuts for that shit because what gets them off is the violation and despoiling of innocence. The more innocent, the better.

That is the animating principle at the center of "progressive" efforts at sexualizing children in society at large, too. They want to do it to your kids and then laugh in your face while the government protects them.

There is a reason why gays against groomers was immediately savaged by the progs. There is a reason why lesbian women who don't accept transes as women were attacked. There's a reason why they want to harangue and browbeat lesbians like Arielle Scarcella into taking trans dick.

See, way back she was an advocate of gay marriage because she just wanted gay girls like herself to be able to marry other gay girls and carry out normal relationships. People who said it would be a slippery slope were just being mean. And now she's cancelled and un-personed as a nazi because she won't take transexual dick. The only possible reason she could have to not suck transexual dick is because she's fundamentally a bad person. Just like the Supreme Court said in their decision forcing gay marriage on the country, there's no legitimate reason to reject trans dick. You could only come to that conclusion from a position of unjustifiable  bigotry.

I believe she was absolutely sincere when she advocated for gay marriage and she really did think that would be the end of it. With arguments like "who you love is not a choice!" and "I was born this way!" I'm sure that in her conception she couldn't see anything different than her desires and intended purpose.

But others did. Others saw the dangers of those arguments and the logical ends they would produce. If you state that who someone "loves" is not a "choice", then you open the door to the normalization of sexualizing children. The core problem of well meaning progressives...and only a portion of them are truly well meaning...is their inability to understand second and third order effects of what they propose. Thomas Sowell once famously said you can undo just any liberal by asking the simple question "And then what?" to which they have no answer.

Of course, all progressives are not well meaning. A good many of them...if not most outright...intend these results. Certainly their core academic literature openly says so. They are as shameless as the islamist on the corner arguing that allah does not forbid fucking a five year old.

The prophet mohammed, after all, took a nine year old wife. Tough to argue with that, no? It is halal!

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So is homosexuality a base for further perversion? Not exclusively so in that it is guaranteed. But it certainly has an awful high incidence rate as trying to answer my original two questions would show you.

The "queer" ideology that has catapulted from the midst of the debate on homosexuality is most definitely entirely based in perversion, despoliation, and violation in the furtherance of rebuilding society in the twisted image of the ones promoting it. That is beyond question.

Tell that to Sodom or Gomorrah

I agree with you 100%, but seeing the acceleration post-obergefell has proven the slippery slope crowd correct.

Yep

Indeed.

We are as a whole more vulnerable though due to our small size so we are easier to exploit by big money groups.

True, they are hopless most of the time.

Michael jackson?

Is it?

What an amazingly simple explanation of the appeal of atheism.  No God = rules for thee but not for me...kinda like how people justify genocide and such.  If there's no God then there's no rules!

That is extremely easy to find these days.

This ain't the 90s anymore.

Hell I'm one of them, I was 16 when I sucked my first dick and so was he.

I used to be a sexual degenerate, but I stopped and haven't had sex in a year. It's difficult, of course, but I'm managing. (And yes, my T levels are good)

I've loved a woman before whom I didn't marry. I'm still alive, and I'll find someone better for me to marry.

Boo f'ing hoo if you don't get to have sex with everyone you're attracted to or marry everyone you fall in love with you.

If you keep your degeneracy to yourself, I'm not going to be outraged. You're only hurting yourself, and the morality of it is between you and God. But if you're trying to normalize it in society and push it on children, it becomes my business.

What grown adults do in the privacy of their home is their business. However, the entire gay pride movement is mental illness. Celebrating one’s sexual orientation is the downfall. The parades, drag queens, the flags all of that garbage is what needs to be rooted out

My wife and I have spent most of our adult lives living and socializing in major cities.
We have/had gay friends, gay neighbors, gay acquaintances, gay co-workers, etc.
In my experience... stereotypes become stereotypes for a reason. YMMV.

(Have one gay friend, normal conservative dude. He constantly bemoans the sad state of gay culture, both in general, and for gays like him.)

You want to be gay for it, but it is when you say that kind of crap is when people turn away and when you lose supporters. If you can’t see this, then that is your deal. Bye

You calling yourself the resident cock sucker, which you have several times, just weirds and grosses people out and makes them want to avoid you. You don’t see other people declaring themselves the resident pussy lickers. Use some tact and decency

The same justification that they should be able to love anyone they want could just as easily be applied to children, animals, or inanimate objects.

Everyone has to decide for themselves what they think is acceptable or objectionable.

Many things that were a major sin or illegal act 75 years ago are now legal..such as homosexuality, marijuana, interracial marriage hard drug use in Oregon..

No one knows what changes will occur over the next 75 years..  eating the dead, beastiality, pedophilia?

To the first, I can see it, however like a 80 year old man with limited time left i just do not care anymore. For years both personal and online I have had to put up with shit so I just don't care.

No hate or fault on you personally now for pointing it out I'm just beyond the point.

As to the 2nd, since when has GD had tact and decency, maybe back in 2010? Do you not remember the IDF women thread? Or the guilty or not guilty posts you still see from time to time?

In Seattle in the 60's, the police would go to the illegal gay bars and load "patty wagon's" of fags up and take them to jail for the weekend.
The city street's were safe for children in those days. If a queer approached us as teenagers, the cops let us "kick there ass's" for a couple of minutes and then tell us to just move along.
A mile from our high school was a place where queer's hung out. It was fine for us to go over there and punch and slap them around a little, then the cops would say that is enough, get out of here. It caused them to stay in there lane and leave "normal people" alone.
I may or may not of made this these stories up.

Just butt lickers.