Posted: 8/9/2004 8:59:39 PM EDT
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Was reading this web site www.firearmslawcenter.com and came across info on machine guns, According to the ATF, in 2000 there were a total of 278,958 registered machine guns nationwide. Department of the Treasury, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, Firearms Commerce in the United States: 2001/2002, Exhibit 9. The four states with the greatest number of machine guns were Texas (19,415), Connecticut (17,289), Florida (15,285), and California (14,916); those with the fewest were Delaware (146), Hawaii (246), Rhode Island (416) and North Dakota (1,019). Id. Connecticut has the 2nd highest I would of never guessed. Thumbs up for 3rd Florida !! Kalifornia got 4th WTF!! |
| Just because a machinegun is properly registered does not mean it is owned privatly by a std. citizen. Think of all the LE guns in California, also CT is where Colt firearms manuf. is at. Just how many machineguns do you think Colt might have an any given time ready to ship out. |
I think they meant pre 86, I might be wrong because if it isnt the numbers have to be larger I think?? Also FN is in SC so why arent there numbers high |
I thought they'd get SOT's for that... What about before the auto weapons' outlawing? I notice NY isn't listed, and there's no NFA registrations allowed here. Edit: I just saw the whole state-by-state list... NY is around the middle of the list, DAMN... Would be nice to know if those were transfereable to other people in-state, because I know new registrations aren't allowed here IIRC (haven't seen a single registered NFA item at any range, anyways). |
I think SC just allowed private MG ownership a few years ago. |
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Incorporate yourself. Buy a video camera. Get all your ATF paperwork in order. Tell the state you are going to make instructional videos, "Care and Feeding of Thompson Submachinegun", "Full Auto Fun with the M4", "Naked Babes with M60's". You are a small business, you have to start somewhere. And offer your videos for sale on your own website. You Kalifornistan guys tell me how this works out. |
He was talking about Law Enforcement Machine guns and FN makes a shitload of machine guns for military and Law enforcement. |
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Taxman - a little on CA & MGs. There was a time when it was legal to own a MG in CA. Ever heard of Tim LaFrance (or a LaFrance conversion)? He made numerous guns for places like Stembridge and individuals. A few years ago, I bought an AKM from a guy in CA who got it directly from LaFrance; he had a G3, the AKM, an MG34, and a few MACs IIRC. The AKM transfered right to my dealer without any problem. Unfortunately, I ended up selling it to my dealer so I could buy an AM180 (although I love my 180, I could kick myself now that AKs are almost four times what I paid). Someone else also mentioned MGs in NY. Again, its possible. I know of a couple SOTs in NY. For individuals its impossible, unless you fit under a very narrow exemption for law enforcement (which most current LEOs can't take advantage of anyway). |
There is no exemptiopn in Delaware law for private security companies. The only recognized exemptions are for law enforcement and military and for "research & development". I've spoken to people from the DE AG's office on several occasions regarding this and even they won't give a definitive answer on what they would allow under the R&D exemption. Its rumored DuPont/Hercules has (or had) several for R&D on powders. |
MGs destined for military don't have to be placed in the registry IIRC. |
Yeah but FN does make MG's for Law Enforcement also |
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just to clear a few things up earlier in the post , hollywood doesnt get an exemption on nfa firearms, they rent from stembridge and rent from other dealers etc. I have personally worked on several films and supplied firearms while working for exotic arms for motion pictures (www.exotciarms.com), you can see me listed under personnel (m. abbott) |
I think thats what most of us mean when we say "Hollywood"; the prop houses supplying the weapons. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but Stembridge and other prop houses (with an SOT) supplying NFA weapons for movie use do not need PD demo letters to get post-sample weapons, do they? They are also not subject to the 'one model per SOT' rule that precludes most dealers from acquiring more than one of the same model weapon in a post sample. |
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Read these headlines on this page... it sounds like a big anti website.... www.firearmslawcenter.com/library/featured_topics.asp#aw
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