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Posted: 9/28/2022 7:32:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat’s hilarious. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 7:33:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sadly, I doubt that is true. A recall/withdrawal would signal weakness that other people/countries would take advantage of. A country is going to "die" on the plains of Ukraine. Which one(or more) has yet to be determined. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Regarding "destroying energy and food, and now industry" - all Putin has to do to stop the war is to recall the troops. Sadly, I doubt that is true. A recall/withdrawal would signal weakness that other people/countries would take advantage of. A country is going to "die" on the plains of Ukraine. Which one(or more) has yet to be determined. Well hello Iraq & Afghanistan  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 7:58:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it's a blind spot caused by his desire to be contrary to the left. He's correctly identified that the left demonizes Russia, sometimes as a scapegoat and with domestic political motives. As he is highlighting that he gets lost. Or he is on the money and others are lost, their own hubris makes them think we are on the right path. When nothing could be further from the truth. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 7:58:45 PM EDT
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Knock off the personal attacks~guns762
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Posted: 9/28/2022 8:09:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And performance enhancing drugs Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just checked Amazon.com for any books out on this and found none… so I’m ruling out SEALs Test the water for hair gel residue........... And performance enhancing drugs Ouch! |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 8:16:43 PM EDT
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New theory
Russias been threatening to turn off the gas we all just assumed they meant with a valve or something, like a normal person this might be how Russia turns off the gas citation :FPSRussia |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 8:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySome are more honest than others   Hastily Made Cleveland Tourism Video: 2nd Attempt |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 8:34:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you not feel valued OP? I'm valued in the real world where I do real work.  This is just virtual entertainment where nothing real can actually happen. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 8:42:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which time? It wasn’t the Soviets, and it wasn’t the Russians? Or was it? it appears i'm not going to get an answer to my question |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 8:45:41 PM EDT
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Biden did this.
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Posted: 9/28/2022 8:48:38 PM EDT
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11257689/CIA-warned-attack-Nord-Stream-pipes-WEEKS-ago.html
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Posted: 9/28/2022 8:54:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: it appears i'm not going to get an answer to my question Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Which time? It wasn’t the Soviets, and it wasn’t the Russians? Or was it? it appears i'm not going to get an answer to my question Them pretty pictures looked just like a bunch of the buildings here in Russia. Such a coincidence!
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Posted: 9/28/2022 9:06:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Them pretty pictures looked just like a bunch of the buildings here in Russia. Such a coincidence! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Which time? It wasn’t the Soviets, and it wasn’t the Russians? Or was it? it appears i'm not going to get an answer to my question Them pretty pictures looked just like a bunch of the buildings here in Russia. Such a coincidence! Like this? 
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Posted: 9/28/2022 9:11:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Which time? It wasn’t the Soviets, and it wasn’t the Russians? Or was it? it appears i'm not going to get an answer to my question Them pretty pictures looked just like a bunch of the buildings here in Russia. Such a coincidence! Like this? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/E760AB7F-ACBA-4E8B-9BFD-CE4C4C50F0C1-2543148.jpg Sig line checks out |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 9:22:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: it appears i'm not going to get an answer to my question Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Which time? It wasn’t the Soviets, and it wasn’t the Russians? Or was it? it appears i'm not going to get an answer to my question As you may or may not know. St. Michael's dates back to before Moscow was ever a thing, was nearly totally destroyed the Moscow the last time it exerted its authorituh over Kyiv, and was rebuilt into its current glory by an independent Ukraine. And pretty much all baroque architecture, or anything of any real value in general in Russia is a cheap imitation of something elsewhere, brought into Russia in those periods of history where it wasn't so wholly full of itself that it was willing to emulate superior ideas. Alas, such periods of history are fleeting and rarely appreciated by those who need to appreciate it. Not sure if that was the angle you were going for, but I felt compelled to note this. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 9:25:27 PM EDT
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  Apashe ft. Instasamka - Uebok (Gotta Run) [Official Video] |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 9:29:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: it appears i'm not going to get an answer to my question Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Which time? It wasn’t the Soviets, and it wasn’t the Russians? Or was it? it appears i'm not going to get an answer to my question Ive said it before usually he answers questions with a question I guess he thinks hes Jesus but really hes just too scared to ever justify any position |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 9:34:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: Ohhhhh ohhhhh do Chicago now! 
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Posted: 9/28/2022 9:34:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ive said it before usually he answers questions with a question I guess he thinks hes Jesus but really hes just too scared to ever justify any position Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Which time? It wasn’t the Soviets, and it wasn’t the Russians? Or was it? it appears i'm not going to get an answer to my question Ive said it before usually he answers questions with a question I guess he thinks hes Jesus but really hes just too scared to ever justify any position I could not be more straightforward in the justification of my position. You Putin supporters are always so evasive. Not me. I will and have told you in a point by point manner why it is a good thing that we are facilitating the defeat of Russia. I will and have explained WHY and how Russia is responsible for the pipeline attack. You can’t even be bothered to make an attempt at punctuation |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 9:41:34 PM EDT
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Fingers Point At Russia In Baltic Undersea Pipeline Attack
Rumors and speculation continue to swirl around a series of blasts that significantly damaged two major underwater pipelines in the Baltic Sea designed to carry natural gas from Russia to Europe yesterday. The European Union has now joined a growing chorus of government officials, as well as experts and observers, saying the explosions were all but certainly the result of some kind of deliberate attack. A British media report today indicated that officials in that country are increasingly convinced that the Russian government is responsible, possibly using uncrewed underwater vehicles to plant explosives. Readers can get up to speed first on what is already known about these incidents in The War Zone's initial reporting here.. ... There are entirely unsubstantiated conspiracy theories, which Russian state and non-state actors are amplifying, circulating already that the U.S. government, or other actors working in cooperation with it, were responsible. Spreading misinformation and disinformation, or enabling their spread, are common Russian government tactics to deflect attention from its own malign activities. ... A remark from President Joe Biden in February before Russia's all-out invasion of Ukraine that the Kremlin's increasingly hostile actions toward its neighbor could lead to there "be no longer a Nord Stream 2," has also resurfaced. There is no indication whatsoever that this was anything but a comment on the potential diplomatic pressure the U.S. government would exert on German authorities to at least freeze that specific pipeline project, something that very publicly happened. All this being said, there are indications that Western intelligence agencies are increasingly of the view that the Russian government, or actors acting on its behalf, was responsible for the pipeline leaks. The Times newspaper in the United Kingdom, citing an unnamed U.K. "defense source," reported today that a "likely scenario" for the attacks involved Russian uncrewed underwater vehicles, deployed from a mothership vessel of some kind on the surface, possibly something as innocuous as a fishing boat. Those undersea drones would then have laid explosive devices along the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines.
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Posted: 9/28/2022 9:45:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One consideration. Are not Germans and other euroweenies protesting to get their govs to lift the sanctions on Russia because energy prices are stratospheric? Does this act of sabotage solve the problem of rhe Euro govs caving to the protestors? “Sorry, bruh. Russkie pipelines are blown. Why remove sanctions? They can’t provide gas” ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A generic threat made BEFORE the invasion? If this had happened within weeks of the invasion then that theory could be entertained. Several months later as Ukraine is kicking ass and Putin is throwing untrained draftees onto the front lines to delay the inevitable? Not a chance in hell. The US has had that specific capability for over 40 years. The Russians too, albeit later, lesser. The only thing Biden didn't mention was the Bubblefish's hull number. Not saying we did it, as I don't think such information can be forensically developed, but that threat was far from generic. Which goes to Obama's Law of Biden. At This Point, whodunnit is a religious debate. You completely ignored the meat of my counter-argument that collapses your entire house of cards: If this had happened within weeks of the invasion then that theory could be entertained. Several months later as Ukraine is kicking ass and Putin is throwing untrained draftees onto the front lines to delay the inevitable? Not a chance in hell. One consideration. Are not Germans and other euroweenies protesting to get their govs to lift the sanctions on Russia because energy prices are stratospheric? Does this act of sabotage solve the problem of rhe Euro govs caving to the protestors? “Sorry, bruh. Russkie pipelines are blown. Why remove sanctions? They can’t provide gas” ? No, this act does not "solve" this problem because the pipeline can be repaired. No, quite the opposite. The Russians are already whining that sanctions will prevent them from quickly repairing the pipes. This is a beautiful example of the reasons we should presume this is a Russian false flag so they can play victim and manipulate the weak-minded. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 9:45:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. Biden is continuing Trump's policy towards Ukraine. Hmmm. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 9:52:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: True, with our media we don't know who did it. You'd pretty much have to witness the whole thing yourself to get that kind of accuracy. To me it doesn't make sense that Russia would do that when they can just quit pumping gas through it. Blowing it takes that negotiation point from themselves. Biden would do it just to be a dick. And they have to buy gas from where he says they buy it, Ukraine or Middle East. Look what he did to our own border for the main reason being just to spite Trump and his supporters. The shit has his name written all over it. My thoughts exactly. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 10:04:58 PM EDT
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Am I understanding correctly that Potatoe Joe told us EARLIER THIS VERY YEAR that if the Russians did a bad that we'd end the Nordstream pipelines, and now that Russia did the bad and said pipelines have indeed been ended, pointing out that Potatoe Joe probably did it has become an OMG RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY THEORY YOU DAMN TRAITORS?
I don't understand the new reality.  
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Posted: 9/28/2022 10:26:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Am I understanding correctly that Potatoe Joe told us EARLIER THIS VERY YEAR that if the Russians did a bad that we'd end the Nordstream pipelines, and now that Russia did the bad and said pipelines have indeed been ended, pointing out that Potatoe Joe probably did it has become an OMG RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY THEORY YOU DAMN TRAITORS? I don't understand the new reality. The pipelines can be repaired. If sanctions are lifted of course. How convenient for Russia. I'm imagining a lot of you being pulled over by the cops for speeding: "But Officer, the speed limit on this road was 65mph an hour ago!" |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 10:28:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Living on whose knees ? What Ukraine and Russia do on their fucking borders is none of mine, or your business. Where were people like you when the USA bombed the shit out of Serbia when they tried to keep their century old province from being taken away from them ? How was that any different from what happened in the Donbas for the last 10 years ? Where have you been when turkey annexed territories ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Peace in our time, even if it means living on our knees. B A S E D Living on whose knees ? What Ukraine and Russia do on their fucking borders is none of mine, or your business. Where were people like you when the USA bombed the shit out of Serbia when they tried to keep their century old province from being taken away from them ? How was that any different from what happened in the Donbas for the last 10 years ? Where have you been when turkey annexed territories ?  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 10:34:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Geez. I’m sure you don’t see the sheer absurdity of such a statement. But on the other hand you also believe the us MSM is lying all the time, except about the Ukraine topic…. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He challenges his guests and he says things that need to be said about American politics. Everything Tucker says is usually on point. Unless he's talking about Russia and Ukraine. Then he becomes a Russian Propagandist's dream come true. He invites known Russian propagandists and apologists on and NEVER challenges them. This is 100% undeniable. Geez. I’m sure you don’t see the sheer absurdity of such a statement. But on the other hand you also believe the us MSM is lying all the time, except about the Ukraine topic…. Biden, Soros, the MSM etc lie about everything. Except Ukraine. Everything they tell us about Ukraine is absolutely, handed down from god on stone tablets, true and if you question ANYTHING they put out about Ukraine you're a Putin dick sucking Russian shill. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 10:39:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Peace in our time, even if it means living on our knees. B A S E D Living on whose knees ? What Ukraine and Russia do on their fucking borders is none of mine, or your business. Where were people like you when the USA bombed the shit out of Serbia when they tried to keep their century old province from being taken away from them ? How was that any different from what happened in the Donbas for the last 10 years ? Where have you been when turkey annexed territories ? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/thatwasdifferent-667.gif |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 10:53:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I could not be more straightforward in the justification of my position. You Putin supporters are always so evasive. Not me. I will and have told you in a point by point manner why it is a good thing that we are facilitating the defeat of Russia. I will and have explained WHY and how Russia is responsible for the pipeline attack. You can’t even be bothered to make an attempt at punctuation Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Which time? It wasn’t the Soviets, and it wasn’t the Russians? Or was it? it appears i'm not going to get an answer to my question Ive said it before usually he answers questions with a question I guess he thinks hes Jesus but really hes just too scared to ever justify any position I could not be more straightforward in the justification of my position. You Putin supporters are always so evasive. Not me. I will and have told you in a point by point manner why it is a good thing that we are facilitating the defeat of Russia. I will and have explained WHY and how Russia is responsible for the pipeline attack. You can’t even be bothered to make an attempt at punctuation I'm 100% in support of Ukraine and bleeding Russia dry. I fail to see how blowing the pipelines help Russia. The gas was already cut off. Now it can't be turned on, so it ceases to be possible leverage. The carot is gone from the Russian tool belt. On the other hand, this makes Germany pretty much completely dependent on US LNG exports, wood, and probably coal to get through winter, and Germany is the weak sister in NATO who we need to stand tall and not fracture the alliance. All the motive and opportunity and quo Bono points to the US. The only possible angle is a deception play off US motive, means, and opportunity to blame the US and drive the EU away as a result...but again the dependency problem means they can't really go far because we have all the cards. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 10:58:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except we did do something. The Republicans in Congress appropriated large sums of money to arm the Ukrainians during the Trump Administration and Trump's DOD started providing the Ukrainians with a huge amount of technical support and training. Those efforts are what set the stage for Ukraine being able to beat back the invasion and they absolutely should be recognized as they key element of how successful this has been. Say what you will, but the trap for Russia was set from 2018-2020 under Trump's watch, and it's one of the best things he did from a foreign policy perspective. Trump also beat the drum in NATO against Russian expansionism and told everyone exactly what was going to happen if they didn't reduce their dependency on Russian oil and natural gas. Well that's an interesting quote. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 11:04:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except we did do something. The Republicans in Congress appropriated large sums of money to arm the Ukrainians during the Trump Administration and Trump's DOD started providing the Ukrainians with a huge amount of technical support and training. Those efforts are what set the stage for Ukraine being able to beat back the invasion and they absolutely should be recognized as they key element of how successful this has been. Say what you will, but the trap for Russia was set from 2018-2020 under Trump's watch, and it's one of the best things he did from a foreign policy perspective. Trump also beat the drum in NATO against Russian expansionism and told everyone exactly what was going to happen if they didn't reduce their dependency on Russian oil and natural gas. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Peace in our time, even if it means living on our knees. B A S E D Living on whose knees ? What Ukraine and Russia do on their fucking borders is none of mine, or your business. Where were people like you when the USA bombed the shit out of Serbia when they tried to keep their century old province from being taken away from them ? How was that any different from what happened in the Donbas for the last 10 years ? Where have you been when turkey annexed territories ? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/thatwasdifferent-667.gif Yep. As I'm sure you know, I'm critical about Trump on a number of things he did (mostly domestically) but taking a hard line against Russia, warning NATO/Europe about the danger of their complacency towards Russia, and starting to help bolster Ukraine was stuff he was absolutely correct on. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 11:13:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I should remind you that enviroweenies have always been bankrolled and supported by the Kremlin for the destruction of the West. No, this act does not "solve" this problem because the pipeline can be repaired. No, quite the opposite. The Russians are already whining that sanctions will prevent them from quickly repairing the pipes. This is a beautiful example of the reasons we should presume this is a Russian false flag so they can play victim and manipulate the weak-minded. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A generic threat made BEFORE the invasion? If this had happened within weeks of the invasion then that theory could be entertained. Several months later as Ukraine is kicking ass and Putin is throwing untrained draftees onto the front lines to delay the inevitable? Not a chance in hell. The US has had that specific capability for over 40 years. The Russians too, albeit later, lesser. The only thing Biden didn't mention was the Bubblefish's hull number. Not saying we did it, as I don't think such information can be forensically developed, but that threat was far from generic. Which goes to Obama's Law of Biden. At This Point, whodunnit is a religious debate. You completely ignored the meat of my counter-argument that collapses your entire house of cards: If this had happened within weeks of the invasion then that theory could be entertained. Several months later as Ukraine is kicking ass and Putin is throwing untrained draftees onto the front lines to delay the inevitable? Not a chance in hell. One consideration. Are not Germans and other euroweenies protesting to get their govs to lift the sanctions on Russia because energy prices are stratospheric? Does this act of sabotage solve the problem of rhe Euro govs caving to the protestors? “Sorry, bruh. Russkie pipelines are blown. Why remove sanctions? They can’t provide gas” ? No, this act does not "solve" this problem because the pipeline can be repaired. No, quite the opposite. The Russians are already whining that sanctions will prevent them from quickly repairing the pipes. This is a beautiful example of the reasons we should presume this is a Russian false flag so they can play victim and manipulate the weak-minded. One day we may know We do not know now |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 11:15:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well that's an interesting quote. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Except we did do something. The Republicans in Congress appropriated large sums of money to arm the Ukrainians during the Trump Administration and Trump's DOD started providing the Ukrainians with a huge amount of technical support and training. Those efforts are what set the stage for Ukraine being able to beat back the invasion and they absolutely should be recognized as they key element of how successful this has been. Say what you will, but the trap for Russia was set from 2018-2020 under Trump's watch, and it's one of the best things he did from a foreign policy perspective. Trump also beat the drum in NATO against Russian expansionism and told everyone exactly what was going to happen if they didn't reduce their dependency on Russian oil and natural gas. Well that's an interesting quote. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 11:16:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Biden, Soros, the MSM etc lie about everything. Except Ukraine. Everything they tell us about Ukraine is absolutely, handed down from god on stone tablets, true and if you question ANYTHING they put out about Ukraine you're a Putin dick sucking Russian shill. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: He challenges his guests and he says things that need to be said about American politics. Everything Tucker says is usually on point. Unless he's talking about Russia and Ukraine. Then he becomes a Russian Propagandist's dream come true. He invites known Russian propagandists and apologists on and NEVER challenges them. This is 100% undeniable. Geez. I’m sure you don’t see the sheer absurdity of such a statement. But on the other hand you also believe the us MSM is lying all the time, except about the Ukraine topic…. Biden, Soros, the MSM etc lie about everything. Except Ukraine. Everything they tell us about Ukraine is absolutely, handed down from god on stone tablets, true and if you question ANYTHING they put out about Ukraine you're a Putin dick sucking Russian shill. Straw man |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 11:16:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm 100% in support of Ukraine and bleeding Russia dry. I fail to see how blowing the pipelines help Russia. The gas was already cut off. Now it can't be turned on, so it ceases to be possible leverage. The carot is gone from the Russian tool belt. On the other hand, this makes Germany pretty much completely dependent on US LNG exports, wood, and probably coal to get through winter, and Germany is the weak sister in NATO who we need to stand tall and not fracture the alliance. All the motive and opportunity and quo Bono points to the US. The only possible angle is a deception play off US motive, means, and opportunity to blame the US and drive the EU away as a result...but again the dependency problem means they can't really go far because we have all the cards. Be patient. Remember, everything Russia does is about Russians |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 11:23:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Be patient. Remember, everything Russia does is about Russians Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm 100% in support of Ukraine and bleeding Russia dry. I fail to see how blowing the pipelines help Russia. The gas was already cut off. Now it can't be turned on, so it ceases to be possible leverage. The carot is gone from the Russian tool belt. On the other hand, this makes Germany pretty much completely dependent on US LNG exports, wood, and probably coal to get through winter, and Germany is the weak sister in NATO who we need to stand tall and not fracture the alliance. All the motive and opportunity and quo Bono points to the US. The only possible angle is a deception play off US motive, means, and opportunity to blame the US and drive the EU away as a result...but again the dependency problem means they can't really go far because we have all the cards. Be patient. Remember, everything Russia does is about Russians |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 11:26:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Straw man Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He challenges his guests and he says things that need to be said about American politics. Everything Tucker says is usually on point. Unless he's talking about Russia and Ukraine. Then he becomes a Russian Propagandist's dream come true. He invites known Russian propagandists and apologists on and NEVER challenges them. This is 100% undeniable. Geez. I’m sure you don’t see the sheer absurdity of such a statement. But on the other hand you also believe the us MSM is lying all the time, except about the Ukraine topic…. Biden, Soros, the MSM etc lie about everything. Except Ukraine. Everything they tell us about Ukraine is absolutely, handed down from god on stone tablets, true and if you question ANYTHING they put out about Ukraine you're a Putin dick sucking Russian shill. Straw man It’s less of a straw man than your arguments on the topic. You sound like Hilary Clinton promulgating a bogeyman to hide her own nefariousness. Choosing a boogeyman who is an asshole is just good tradecraft, not resounding evidence. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 11:27:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the answer is pretty obvious. In Russia, military service is looked down upon and anyone that has the means and ability will do anything they can to avoid it. Once widespread conscription was mandated, it created a huge PR problem for the Kremlin. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm 100% in support of Ukraine and bleeding Russia dry. I fail to see how blowing the pipelines help Russia. The gas was already cut off. Now it can't be turned on, so it ceases to be possible leverage. The carot is gone from the Russian tool belt. On the other hand, this makes Germany pretty much completely dependent on US LNG exports, wood, and probably coal to get through winter, and Germany is the weak sister in NATO who we need to stand tall and not fracture the alliance. All the motive and opportunity and quo Bono points to the US. The only possible angle is a deception play off US motive, means, and opportunity to blame the US and drive the EU away as a result...but again the dependency problem means they can't really go far because we have all the cards. Be patient. Remember, everything Russia does is about Russians  Failed To Load Title Most people don't want to fight and the family members of the people being conscripted don't want their boys to enter a military that is mainly famous for sodomy and horrific losses of life. When you have that problem, the only thing you can do is implement domestic propaganda that paints your enemy as the aggressor. In the absence of real aggression (and in a situation where Russia is the actual aggressor), you have to create false flags and lies. "They blew up our pipeline!" "They are manufacturing bioweapons!" "They are in league with the west and want to turn you into gays!" Those are all things that could serve to motivate the population. Yup |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 11:28:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s less of a straw man than your arguments on the topic. You sound like Hilary Clinton promulgating a bogeyman to hide her own nefariousness. Choosing a boogeyman who is an asshole is just good tradecraft, not resounding evidence. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He challenges his guests and he says things that need to be said about American politics. Everything Tucker says is usually on point. Unless he's talking about Russia and Ukraine. Then he becomes a Russian Propagandist's dream come true. He invites known Russian propagandists and apologists on and NEVER challenges them. This is 100% undeniable. Geez. I’m sure you don’t see the sheer absurdity of such a statement. But on the other hand you also believe the us MSM is lying all the time, except about the Ukraine topic…. Biden, Soros, the MSM etc lie about everything. Except Ukraine. Everything they tell us about Ukraine is absolutely, handed down from god on stone tablets, true and if you question ANYTHING they put out about Ukraine you're a Putin dick sucking Russian shill. Straw man It’s less of a straw man than your arguments on the topic. You sound like Hilary Clinton promulgating a bogeyman to hide her own nefariousness. Choosing a boogeyman who is an asshole is just good tradecraft, not resounding evidence. You make no argument. You just hurl ad hominem. Weak. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 12:04:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You make no argument. You just hurl ad hominem. Weak. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He challenges his guests and he says things that need to be said about American politics. Everything Tucker says is usually on point. Unless he's talking about Russia and Ukraine. Then he becomes a Russian Propagandist's dream come true. He invites known Russian propagandists and apologists on and NEVER challenges them. This is 100% undeniable. Geez. I’m sure you don’t see the sheer absurdity of such a statement. But on the other hand you also believe the us MSM is lying all the time, except about the Ukraine topic…. Biden, Soros, the MSM etc lie about everything. Except Ukraine. Everything they tell us about Ukraine is absolutely, handed down from god on stone tablets, true and if you question ANYTHING they put out about Ukraine you're a Putin dick sucking Russian shill. Straw man It’s less of a straw man than your arguments on the topic. You sound like Hilary Clinton promulgating a bogeyman to hide her own nefariousness. Choosing a boogeyman who is an asshole is just good tradecraft, not resounding evidence. You make no argument. You just hurl ad hominem. Weak. I wouldnt even bother with these smooth brains, You could teach a monkey to fly easier than talking to the low IQ'ers here in GD. Only thing they understand is what the "herd" is doing and do what they do, if the "herd" says 10 percent for the big guy, then thats all they know. Or if its a picture of zelensky during his acting days, then omg he must be gay and retarded. Smooth brains cant learn on there own, so I wouldnt even bother. |
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