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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:36:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  I don't remember the last time I saw a post that was more disconnected from reality. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Against monumental federal government opposition to fun cars like Chrysler produced, I’m actually surprised the Challenger and Charger performance variants survived as long as they did. Driven a few, never owned one, but I sure will miss them. The federal government will destroy Jeep next. The manufacturers could have all stood together & simply told the EPA "no, we're not building those." The EPA would have had to cave, otherwise there would be no new vehicles & they would be responsible for crushing the market... I don't remember the last time I saw a post that was more disconnected from reality. No different than when all the gun manufacturers said they wouldn't make "smart" guns... |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:42:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  Where's the seeds? |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:49:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No different than when all the gun manufacturers said they wouldn't make "smart" guns... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Against monumental federal government opposition to fun cars like Chrysler produced, I’m actually surprised the Challenger and Charger performance variants survived as long as they did. Driven a few, never owned one, but I sure will miss them. The federal government will destroy Jeep next. The manufacturers could have all stood together & simply told the EPA "no, we're not building those." The EPA would have had to cave, otherwise there would be no new vehicles & they would be responsible for crushing the market... I don't remember the last time I saw a post that was more disconnected from reality. No different than when all the gun manufacturers said they wouldn't make "smart" guns... Not really. The American civilian gun industry is relatively localized, it's tiny compared to the automotive sector, and it was never really feasible to make a "smart gun" until fairly recently. The global auto industry is absolutely massive, there are a dozen or so multi billion dollar groups/corporations, they have to build things for the entire world, and it takes 5+ years to develop a new generation of an existing model using mostly existing technologies. ICEs are facing bans in the EU, California, Isreal, New Zealand, and even some nations in Africa and South America. Even if the traditional "American" companies like Ford, GM, and Chrysler were unwilling to play ball, companies like Tesla, Volkswagen Auto Group, and Nissan were always going to jump in. The only choices automakers had were to join the EV arms race or die. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:07:53 AM EDT
[#4]
You heard it. Dump that dodge stock next year.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:27:25 AM EDT
[#5]
What a way to kill their business!
EV's are for SUCKERS!!! |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:32:37 AM EDT
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If not for these, what do they sell worth buying? Even if I WANTED an EV, I would buy something other than Chrysler. The ONLY things they make worth buying are V-8 muscle cars.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:57:58 AM EDT
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Wow police fleets are gonna be fucked. No crown vics, no Tahoe and now no chargers. Brilliant move what dumbasses
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:46:00 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nissan better start upping Altima production. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A certain segment of the population will not be pleased. Nissan better start upping Altima production. Came here to say this |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 5:30:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FEPA That said there is no denying that electric cars can offer some seriously impressive performance. However nothing will ever evoke the same emotions as a healthy sounding ICE. "VROOM! VROOM!!! |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 5:30:21 AM EDT
[#10]
Sounds like a great plan if their goal is to cut sales.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 5:35:05 AM EDT
[#11]
We are not ready for EVs. Those idiot climate change worshipers are prepared to cause an economic disaster to find out.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 5:35:26 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like a great plan if their goal is to cut sales. Sales "and their own throats" in market share. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 5:36:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My stable.  1, 4, 2, 3 |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 5:51:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow police fleets are gonna be fucked. No crown vics, no Tahoe and now no chargers. Brilliant move what dumbasses Pretty sure I see brand new Tahoes on the road. Or did they just stop using them as cop cars ? |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:14:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow police fleets are gonna be fucked. No crown vics, no Tahoe and now no chargers. Brilliant move what dumbasses Even if they weren't discontinuing the Charger, Stellantis discontinued the Hemi + AWD version last year. This combo seems to be the preferred favorite in areas with winter weather, and now the only way to get AWD has been to go with the Pursuit V6 model. https://moparinsiders.com/the-2021-dodge-charger-pursuit-enforcer-is-ready-for-patrol/ Pursuit Durangos for everyone, I guess. At least they are bringing the Hellcat version back for a bit. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:15:27 AM EDT
[#16]
One way or another they will force EV's on all of us and we will like it.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:18:02 AM EDT
[#17]
Does anyone really admit they give two shits about a damned ol dodge anyways?
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:40:51 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no interest in paying $50k or more for a EV and I sure won't be buying a used EV either. I don't understand why hybrid technology isn't the focus since it provides the best of both worlds IMO. Because they want you to suffer with the worst of both worlds. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:44:12 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In June of 2021, the EV mustang outsold the gasoline version. So far in 2022, Ford has sold every EV mustang that they have produced. In April, they stopped taking new orders because they cannot meet market demand. I have no idea of Dodge will make an EV version of their sports cars or if they will see the success that Ford is having, but they aren't doing it because they are dumb. Arfcom is a very small slice of the world. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Get woke , Go Broke. Muh climate change! FEVs. They will be bankrupt in no time. V8 power is all they had going for them. I have no idea of Dodge will make an EV version of their sports cars or if they will see the success that Ford is having, but they aren't doing it because they are dumb. Arfcom is a very small slice of the world. Now the question you need to ask is did they deprioritize real Mustang construction because muh chips make more money in the EV amorphous blob with a pony badge or in an F-series/SUV to the point where it would artificially skew sales figures in favor of the electric shitbox? My guess would be yes. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:46:10 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are they discontinuing their police fleet offerings too? That's a huge market to flush down the toilet. Just ask Ford and GM. They'll tell you. The cops all drive SUVs now |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:51:30 AM EDT
[#21]
Suicide
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:55:12 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah so they will go back to having exactly zero things worth buying. Noted. Some people seem to like their pickup trucks. Doesn't matter what the label says, it's still a Dodge. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:57:33 AM EDT
[#23]
EV's and Eyetalian automaker lords, Bwa HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
The ''random'' and ''unexplained'' car fires are going to be epic. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:59:52 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We are not ready for EVs. Those idiot climate change worshipers are prepared to cause an economic disaster to find out. The price of used ICE cars to the moon! People are going to be left with either a brand new $$$ electric or a used shit box ICE for slightly less $$$ once again fucking the middle class missionary and the lower class up the ass lol. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:01:15 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The manufacturers could have all stood together & simply told the EPA "no, we're not building those." The EPA would have had to cave, otherwise there would be no new vehicles & they would be responsible for crushing the market... Shareholders tend to get really angry when you tell them that you gave up billions in free cheese from the government to stand on principle. Then they decide you're not right to lead the company, vote you out, and replace you with someone more willing to gobble the government's cock for the taxpayer funded bukkake session. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:03:13 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I realize that, why didn't they do a modern remake? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm sorry man. There never was a 'Cuda. I realize that, why didn't they do a modern remake? They can make it a truck type platform. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:07:41 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I for one, will never buy an EV based on principle alone, fuck these cocksuckers.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:14:33 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The price of used ICE cars to the moon! People are going to be left with either a brand new $$$ electric or a used shit box ICE for slightly less $$$ once again fucking the middle class missionary and the lower class up the ass lol. Jokes on them... both cars have lifetime warranties. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:18:40 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shareholders tend to get really angry when you tell them that you gave up billions in free cheese from the government to stand on principle. Then they decide you're not right to lead the company, vote you out, and replace you with someone more willing to gobble the government's cock for the taxpayer funded bukkake session. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The manufacturers could have all stood together & simply told the EPA "no, we're not building those." The EPA would have had to cave, otherwise there would be no new vehicles & they would be responsible for crushing the market... Shareholders tend to get really angry when you tell them that you gave up billions in free cheese from the government to stand on principle. Then they decide you're not right to lead the company, vote you out, and replace you with someone more willing to gobble the government's cock for the taxpayer funded bukkake session. I wonder how shareholders are going to feel when nobody buys their new products... |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:24:11 AM EDT
[#30]
Well bummer, I was hoping
 to score a Hellcat engine & transmission for my jeep fromA wrecked Hellcat |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:24:39 AM EDT
[#31]
This is racism
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:25:55 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well bummer, I was hoping to score a Hellcat engine & transmission for my jeep fromA wrecked Hellcat They'll still be selling the hellcrates, along with the computer & wiring harness to retrofit it into something else if you need it. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:41:36 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A certain segment of the population will not be pleased. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:50:58 AM EDT
[#34]
Hard to imagine this won't be a bad decision on their part. Changing their most popular sports car won't go well by going electric.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:53:29 AM EDT
[#35]
This is old news. A year ago they already said they were going to end the SRT program.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:53:48 AM EDT
[#36]
But they are bringing back the Hell Cat Durango for 23….. I started this morning working out how to sell my 20 392 so I can order a Hell Cat 23…??
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:56:42 AM EDT
[#37]
They had already said that the Hemi is going away, and both of these cars have remained relatively unchanged for over a decade. They've made incremental improvements, but no new body/platform/chassis.
With the v8 going away, they had a choice to completely redo the cars/platform for a turbo I6, which includes all the associated costs of making a new platform for the new engine, or save that money for EV development and kill it completely. Obviously we know what they chose. I can't say i'm surprised, because i'm sure they did some internal poling and figured out that a lot of buyers in the Charger/Challenger crowd would turn their nose up at a new model that no longer had a V8. I don't think this means they get out of the performance market, i think it means we'll see something new in performance EV. Maybe, just maybe, if the market clamors enough for it, they might bring out a new performance I6 car, i'm just not sure if they will or not. The I6 seemed more of a truck application because they know that market just isn't ready for full EV yet, due to range and towing considerations. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:57:00 AM EDT
[#38]
My old wide body charger might be worth something one day.
just had it painted not long ago. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:59:07 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What the actual FUCK? The flagship vehicles of the Dodge line, the only passenger cars of the brand that anybody recognizes, will be cancelled. Seriously? |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:00:19 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hopefully they will bring back the stratus |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:00:52 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I will keep my 392 scatpack forever as well. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/177719/20200201_210212-1260652.jpg  And by "forever", you mean 5-7 years when it rattles apart. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:02:31 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hard to imagine this won't be a bad decision on their part. Changing their most popular sports car won't go well by going electric. What difference does it make? They will just get another taxpayer bailout when they go tits up again. That's their reward for being good little commies and falling in line with the party's marching orders.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:03:35 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Charger should've looked like a Charger. Agreed. In my AO all the police drive Chargers. That sounds like a stupid decision to kill the Charger for that market alone. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:04:57 AM EDT
[#44]
I keep on saying this… but we are at that point where car enthusiasts should buy that car they been wanting for a while. Then plan to keep it forever. In the not too distant future they really won’t make them like that anymore.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:05:20 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I realize that, why didn't they do a modern remake? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm sorry man. There never was a 'Cuda. I realize that, why didn't they do a modern remake? Probably because the are Dodge and not Plymouth. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:09:00 AM EDT
[#46]
Taking an honest assessment of the "shift" to EVs and renewable energy, it's obvious we really are living in Clown World.
I see why the globalists are pushing it, but I just can't see how the people are buying it. It's not stupid, it's insane. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:20:18 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A certain segment of the population will not be pleased. Hwy Patrol, local PD...who are you referring to? |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:22:52 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was looking forward to getting a Charger in the next year or two. This sucks. I wanted one of the new Challenger for mis-spent youth and a '72 Challenger back in the day reasons.  Looks like I'm broke and will have to do the redneck 120 month loan thing next year then. Once these are gone, Stellantis will have nothing to sell. What the big 3 are forgetting with this "All In" EV push is they are forcing brand loyal customers to really look around at all the options because going "EV" means a fresh clean sheet of paper start. Lots of options now, lots of choices. A dull mobile and batteries are all the same, might as well go with the cheapest. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:24:48 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They did. Then the recall was a software update that was to be sent out to dealers which would supposedly fix the problem. I dunno the status of that software update, if it fixed the problem or not, it's probably still to early to tell for most. Luckly it wasn't as big of a deal as some of the others. They are not without growing pains, as is any new technology and early adopters will go through those growing pains too. People here are acting like Dodge is dumb though. They aren't and they are doing it because other manufacturers are doing well in sales. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And in June they recalled all of them... They are not without growing pains, as is any new technology and early adopters will go through those growing pains too. People here are acting like Dodge is dumb though. They aren't and they are doing it because other manufacturers are doing well in sales. Have they started burning down garages/houses yet? If not they better hurry up, Tesla and GM have a head start. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:27:01 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Taking an honest assessment of the "shift" to EVs and renewable energy, it's obvious we really are living in Clown World. I see why the globalists are pushing it, but I just can't see how the people are buying it. It's not stupid, it's insane. It's because we do not represent the majority here. Most people are falling for the commie bullshit that is being dished out. Fuck coal powered cars. Fuck the people who are pushing them. |
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