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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:18:27 PM EDT
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This shouldn't surprise anyone.
There was never a chance Chrysler was going to be selling 18 MPG coupes and sedans much longer. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:21:31 PM EDT
[#2]
My stable.
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:21:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This shouldn't surprise anyone. There was never a chance Chrysler was going to be selling 18 MPG coupes and sedans much longer. But yeah - the glory days are coming to an end. Again. It's been a good run. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:23:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does Chrysler still make the 300? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A certain segment of the population will not be pleased. Does Chrysler still make the 300? Goodbye ghetto Bentley, hello ghetto Tesla. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:23:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent business plan. Stop producing what customers like and buy. This. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:23:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The ghetto goblins will have to find new cars to commit their crimes in. There’s still Nissan |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:24:41 PM EDT
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Against monumental federal government opposition to fun cars like Chrysler produced, I’m actually surprised the Challenger and Charger performance variants survived as long as they did.
Driven a few, never owned one, but I sure will miss them. The federal government will destroy Jeep next. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:25:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent business plan. Stop producing what customers like and buy. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:26:12 PM EDT
[#9]
What’s left? Dodge Durango, Jeep and Ram?
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:26:28 PM EDT
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It's all just so tiresome. Everything in this country is just going to shit. Almost every goddamn thing I like or believe in is getting shit all over by the dems and the leftist wokeism that permeates our society today. Just a damn shame, how do we fight back against this bullshit? I for one, will never buy an EV based on principle alone, fuck these cocksuckers.
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:28:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's really not the same market though One is an egg shaped SUV, the others are traditional performance cars. Pretty sure most people shopping for challengers and real mustangs are NOT cross-shopping the Mach-E https://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/corvette-ev https://www.caranddriver.com/dodge/challenger-emuscle and of course the Cayman: https://www.thecarmagazine.com/2022/04/27/fifth-generation-porsche-718-cayman-and-718-boxster-going-completely-electric/ |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:31:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A certain segment of the population will not be pleased. Mane… |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:31:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Dodge customer base is not going to buy EV's. The Tesla customer base is not going to buy a Dodge. In a few years Dodge will be shut down just like Plymouth was after they ran it into the ground... That's a terrible comparison. Plymouth, like Mercury, was a completely redundant brand that had no reason to exist. I think it's also safe to argue that there's a substantial market of potential EV customers that don't want Tesla's melted soap exterior styling, minimalist industrial interior design, cars that are a bitch to repair damage because they aren't engineered properly, and complete lack of local support. I would also argue there's a market for people who want the speed and performance of EVs without looking like the virtue signaling eco-boobs that drive Teslas. If the government is going to make it impossible to continue sales of gas guzzling boats (and they are), building rowdy tire smoking EVs seems like the obvious leap for Dodge. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:32:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I realize that, why didn't they do a modern remake? Because they killed plymouth. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:32:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In June of 2021, the EV mustang outsold the gasoline version. So far in 2022, Ford has sold every EV mustang that they have produced. In April, they stopped taking new orders because they cannot meet market demand. I have no idea of Dodge will make an EV version of their sports cars or if they will see the success that Ford is having, but they aren't doing it because they are dumb. Arfcom is a very small slice of the world. Please stop with this nonsense.  Attached Filevs.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:34:50 PM EDT
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I'm supposed to buy an electric car but at the same time I have to turn my A/C to 80 so we don't blow the grid.
Something isn't adding up here. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:36:11 PM EDT
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They have lost their fucking mind.
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:39:30 PM EDT
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So… does this mean Dodge will bring back the shadow?!
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:41:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent business plan. Stop producing what customers like and buy. It's not like they have a choice. For years, these cars have been kept alive by squeezing profits out of a platform that dates back to the mid '00s, and in some respects, back to a '90s Mercedes, and using those profits to buy carbon credits. At one point, FCA was spending almost $700M a year buying carbon credits from Tesla. Stellantis, the current corp, had three choices: 1) Kill Dodge completely. 2) Transition Dodge to some kind of turbo four banger hybrid thing. 3) Transition Dodge to EVs. GD might hate it, but option 3 is the clear and obvious best choice for what Dodge's cars are and how they perform today. They're already heavy ass boats that are really fast in a straight line and not great in corners, and that will be the same. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:41:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A certain segment of the population will not be pleased. I was thinking exactly the same thing. LoL |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:42:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So much for police cars, they will all be ford explorers lol Precisely what I was thinking. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:42:49 PM EDT
[#22]
Everyone who drives them around here is ghetto, trash, or lower middle class old guys.
Good riddance. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:43:41 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Against monumental federal government opposition to fun cars like Chrysler produced, I’m actually surprised the Challenger and Charger performance variants survived as long as they did. Driven a few, never owned one, but I sure will miss them. The federal government will destroy Jeep next. The manufacturers could have all stood together & simply told the EPA "no, we're not building those." The EPA would have had to cave, otherwise there would be no new vehicles & they would be responsible for crushing the market... |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:45:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People in this thread are acting like Dodge is making some detrimental and idiotic decision that is going to cause the failure of the company. Despite the politics related to it which I fucking hate, the objective reality is that so far, that hasn't been the case for others. More people want to buy them than they can make fast enough. It might end up being a bad decision in the end, I certainly can't see the future. It's not nearly as bad of a decision as some are making it though, with the information that we have right now. I have my reservations about the strings that come attached to EVs....but it is important to put feelings and bias aside, to be objective. The objective view is that the demand certainly appears to be there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Comparing an SUV to a sports car. Apple's to oranges. It might end up being a bad decision in the end, I certainly can't see the future. It's not nearly as bad of a decision as some are making it though, with the information that we have right now. I have my reservations about the strings that come attached to EVs....but it is important to put feelings and bias aside, to be objective. The objective view is that the demand certainly appears to be there. Who is going to buy all those 50k+ cars? And they're only going to get more expensive from Toyota to the big banks all have said point blank there's not enough lithium or refining capacity. Prices are already going through the roof and once we wipe out ICE that tech won't be easy to bring back. Absent some new battery tech EVs will a rich person game for a very long time. The difference between now and the 70s is the US government wasn't actively trying to screw with the average American. Opec was but not the US government. The real rich thing is absent subsidies and carbon credits EVs would never have made it off the ground. Toyota warned everyone it was a bad idea but they eventually caved to politics not sound business and engineering. More germane to this thread its a shame dodge could never get the reliability of thase cars better. They were comfortable highway cruisers and good mileage in the v6. Drove them for years as a fleet car and loved them. But they all had issues around 75k. No way dodge can produce the same kind of car in EV fornthe same price. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:46:17 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm supposed to buy an electric car but at the same time I have to turn my A/C to 80 so we don't blow the grid. Something isn't adding up here. Also don't park it in your garage & charge it overnight because it might spontaneously combust & burn your house down... |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:46:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So… does this mean Dodge will bring back the shadow?! No, next is the Hornet which nobody asked for. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:47:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Charger should've looked like a Charger. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:48:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The manufacturers could have all stood together & simply told the EPA "no, we're not building those." The EPA would have had to cave, otherwise there would be no new vehicles & they would be responsible for crushing the market... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Against monumental federal government opposition to fun cars like Chrysler produced, I’m actually surprised the Challenger and Charger performance variants survived as long as they did. Driven a few, never owned one, but I sure will miss them. The federal government will destroy Jeep next. The manufacturers could have all stood together & simply told the EPA "no, we're not building those." The EPA would have had to cave, otherwise there would be no new vehicles & they would be responsible for crushing the market...  I don't remember the last time I saw a post that was more disconnected from reality. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:49:47 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who is going to buy all those 50k+ cars? And they're only going to get more expensive from Toyota to the big banks all have said point blank there's not enough lithium or refining capacity. Prices are already going through the roof and once we wipe out ICE that tech won't be easy to bring back. Absent some new battery tech EVs will a rich person game for a very long time. The difference between now and the 70s is the US government wasn't actively trying to screw with the average American. Opec was but not the US government. The real rich thing is absent subsidies and carbon credits EVs would never have made it off the ground. Toyota warned everyone it was a bad idea but they eventually caved to politics not sound business and engineering. More germane to this thread its a shame dodge could never get the reliability of thase cars better. They were comfortable highway cruisers and good mileage in the v6. Drove them for years as a fleet car and loved them. But they all had issues around 75k. No way dodge can produce the same kind of car in EV fornthe same price. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:49:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A certain segment of the population will not be pleased. Own one of each. Great cars. At least I don’t live in Arkansas I guess. Also a Ram Cummins Mega cab from 06 and a 66 Dart GT. Lots of Dodge here. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:54:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The federal government will destroy Jeep next. child's play what they're currently working on and doing a DAMNED fine job at is destroying AMERICA motherfuckers |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:56:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: child's play what they're currently working on and doing a DAMNED fine job at is destroying AMERICA motherfuckers Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The federal government will destroy Jeep next. child's play what they're currently working on and doing a DAMNED fine job at is destroying AMERICA motherfuckers I do look forward to the next wave of dealerships going out of business because nobody is buying their shit. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:57:53 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Goodbye ghetto Bentley, hello ghetto Tesla. Well the pursuits will shorter and the PIT maneuvers more colorful! |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:59:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do look forward to the next wave of dealerships going out of business because nobody is buying their shit. It's already an option that people choose today. It's probably not going to happen fast though. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:00:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Precisely what I was thinking. Not around here. There are some. But mostly Tahoe PPVs. All I drove from 96 to 2020 were Tahoes. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:02:15 PM EDT
[#36]
So much FAIL!
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:05:35 PM EDT
[#37]
I reckon whoever made that decision will be jobless not soon after that takes place. The only dodge I see on the road besides those are minivans and trucks.
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:06:07 PM EDT
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Quote History |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:08:50 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In June of 2021, the EV mustang outsold the gasoline version. So far in 2022, Ford has sold every EV mustang that they have produced. In April, they stopped taking new orders because they cannot meet market demand. I have no idea of Dodge will make an EV version of their sports cars or if they will see the success that Ford is having, but they aren't doing it because they are dumb. Arfcom is a very small slice of the world. Wrong. When you drill into the numbers it was because production of the ICE Mustang was suppressed. If you run the numbers with equal availability ICE Mustang wins easily. It was sheer manipulation of the numbers by Ford since they didn't factor in availability. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:13:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Precisely what I was thinking. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So much for police cars, they will all be ford explorers lol Precisely what I was thinking. 
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:13:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Preach!!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Charger should've looked like a Charger. Nice Charger! Wish I had just one of the seven or eight Chargers I owned back. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:18:35 PM EDT
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Favorite cars of the ghetto street-takeover crowds, and related theft rings. They'll be collector's items due to the number that get smashed to bits, torched, or blasted full of bullet holes.
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:20:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What the actual FUCK? The flagship vehicles of the Dodge line, the only passenger cars of the brand that anybody recognizes, will be cancelled. Seriously? I really dislike the Dodge line of cars but yeah that is really idiotic and shortsided of them to think their customers will hold on the EV crazy train. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:20:18 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't wait for the American revolt when we have no reliable transportation in this country. Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't wait for the American revolt when we have no reliable transportation in this country. You will ride your electric scooter to go eat the bugs and like it  Quoted: The manufacturers could have all stood together & simply told the EPA "no, we're not building those." The EPA would have had to cave, otherwise there would be no new vehicles & they would be responsible for crushing the market... I don't know about now, but manufacturers used to be able to pay a fine per vehicle based on how far off the mpg the vehicle was. Which is how luxury and super car makers did it. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:22:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Charger should've looked like a Charger. Not needing the front end rebuilt every 80k miles wouldve been nice too |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:24:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not needing the front end rebuilt every 80k miles wouldve been nice too Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Charger should've looked like a Charger. Not needing the front end rebuilt every 80k miles wouldve been nice too True to the original! 
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:24:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The manufacturers could have all stood together & simply told the EPA "no, we're not building those." The EPA would have had to cave, otherwise there would be no new vehicles & they would be responsible for crushing the market... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Against monumental federal government opposition to fun cars like Chrysler produced, I’m actually surprised the Challenger and Charger performance variants survived as long as they did. Driven a few, never owned one, but I sure will miss them. The federal government will destroy Jeep next. The manufacturers could have all stood together & simply told the EPA "no, we're not building those." The EPA would have had to cave, otherwise there would be no new vehicles & they would be responsible for crushing the market... The time for that was 5 to 6 decades ago. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:26:09 PM EDT
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will they be replacing them with the Dodge Vergina and Chrysler Buttsecks?
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:31:24 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm supposed to buy an electric car but at the same time I have to turn my A/C to 80 so we don't blow the grid. Something isn't adding up here. you're going to be riding the bus with the homeless is the plan.. whether you want to make payments on a lawn ornament that looks like an automobile parked in front of your place is your choice. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:33:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A certain segment of the population will not be pleased. Lower enlisted soldiers? |
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